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Author Topic: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner  (Read 284375 times)
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July 28, 2017, 12:16:25 PM
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I ordered The AntMiner L3+ for the September batch. However seeing how much the difficulty has increased without the value increasing, it doesn't look like it will be much profitable at that time.

What do you guy's think. Should I cancel my order? Can I mine another coin with the L3+ ?

On the previous page you have all the data. By using multipool ( mining other coins ) you can increase the revenue significantly. But the fall in output remains a fact, and I estimate that August batch will produce a similar drop in output to fall in July.

However after BTC hardfork,  LTC price may increase with BTC to compensate difficulty increasing.

Here's a video in which I test mining altcoins vs litecoin directly and compare the results. Altcoins (at the moment) are nearly twice as profitable.
https://youtu.be/e07eW6-rBPI

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July 28, 2017, 02:01:51 PM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.

Thank you, I ordered it on May 15th too and still have not received the tracking information. I hope they will not delay it too long  Embarrassed
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July 28, 2017, 02:58:33 PM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.

Thank you, I ordered it on May 15th too and still have not received the tracking information. I hope they will not delay it too long  Embarrassed

you might just anytime now got a call from Fedex or DHL you got a shipment!

That happen to me yesterday and I dont receive any email about order is ready too.

Just keep your finger crossed!
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July 29, 2017, 10:48:45 AM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.

Thank you, I ordered it on May 15th too and still have not received the tracking information. I hope they will not delay it too long  Embarrassed

you might just anytime now got a call from Fedex or DHL you got a shipment!



That happen to me yesterday and I dont receive any email about order is ready too.

Just keep your finger crossed!

Hi, I was worry like you before. But just got my packages 3days ago. It's up and running now. You should be getting call/message from your courier soon, asking you to pay import taxes lol.
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July 29, 2017, 12:51:41 PM
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Anyone here update the firmware or just run it as it is? I refer to the July delivery batch.

Or is it mandatory to update it?
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July 29, 2017, 01:34:23 PM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.


You got to be kidding me  Angry


I got nothing and I ordered between 8-12 May....  WTF I knew they would be fucking me again

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July 29, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
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Guys do you get paid out in LTC or BTC or neither?

Just wondering your personal thoughts on the best payout coin?

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July 29, 2017, 05:38:48 PM
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I just spent a few grand to build a 3 GPU rig to get 95 HS/s while needing to buy 3 more cards to get to 186 HS/s just to find out about these damn miners that you cant buy?
Looks like they launch some before at $1,400, now they have a new batch for $2600 that you cant order and everyone is gouging the shit out of the market at $4k to $5k?

I really want one of these but as someone fairly new to alt coins, I have apparently missed the boat on all fronts.

*runs to find the closest bridge*
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July 29, 2017, 06:14:20 PM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.


You got to be kidding me  Angry


I got nothing and I ordered between 8-12 May....  WTF I knew they would be fucking me again

When you order doesnt really matter, its all about when your payment get confirmed.
Let me guess, you paid with bank wire? Tongue
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July 29, 2017, 07:09:14 PM
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I just spent a few grand to build a 3 GPU rig to get 95 HS/s while needing to buy 3 more cards to get to 186 HS/s just to find out about these damn miners that you cant buy?
Looks like they launch some before at $1,400, now they have a new batch for $2600 that you cant order and everyone is gouging the shit out of the market at $4k to $5k?

I really want one of these but as someone fairly new to alt coins, I have apparently missed the boat on all fronts.

*runs to find the closest bridge*

You bought a GPU rig to mine Litecoin? God damn everybody and their mother wants to be a miner, but have ZERO clue what they are doing, kinda frustrating! Tongue

Let me break it down for you:
There are many different coins and crypto algorithms. Some of the algos are ASIC resistant.

What is an ASIC? ASIC stands for Application Specific Integrated Circuit. It basically means that its a microprocessor that is application specific, all integrated on a chip. Application specific means it can only do one thing, or calculate one algorithm.

CPU and GPU´s are also Integrated Circuits, but can do MANY different operations. Because of this they need registers, cache/memory ALU++ to be able to do these operations, and to be fitted on the same chip. This leaves less room for the "calculating" part on the chip. (I´m sorry this is a little thin, I don´t know the word for it Tongue)

So to recap:
ASIC = Really fast at one operation
CPU = Can do a lot of different operations, but much slower than an ASIC on that specific operation.
GPU = Can do a lot of different operations, but much slower than an ASIC on that specific operation.

Obviously a CPU is much slower than a GPU when mining Ethereum for example. This is because of the type of algorithm used, it uses a lot of memory.
Ethereum is a good example of an ASIC resistant coin. The operations in the DaggerHashimoto algorithm is complex and requires a lot of memory.
This makes it hard and expensive to create an ASIC for it, and this combined with the difficulty bomb/ice age that is programmed into the ethereum code discourages manufacturers to even try to create an ASIC for it.

I used to mine litecoin with GPUs back in 2013, before the ASICs came a long. If I remember correctly I was getting around 3600 kH/s on a rig.
Thats roughly 600 kh/s per graphic card, and a graphic card contains 1 GPU chip.
The Antminer L3+ is a machine that contains 288 ASIC chips, with a speed of 504 MH/s

For perspective:
1 kH/s = 1000 h/s (hashes per second)
1 MH/s = 1000.000 h/s

So a GPU mining LTC will calculate around 600.000 h/s
And the L3+ will calculate around 504.000.000 h/s
Its obvious that when an ASIC hits the market for an algorithm, GPU mining will become obsolete.
So no, you can´t mine LTC with GPUs anymore Tongue

Before you go jumping of a bridge you should try mining ethereum, ethereum classic or ZEC. There are no ASICs for these coins (and many others).
Your GPUs could also be usable in the future in projects like golem or iExec RLC.

Welcome to the crypto game, lol xD

Im sorry if this post is hard to read, got zero structure, its my fragmented thoughts basically Cheesy

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July 29, 2017, 08:16:36 PM
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Anybody been lucky enough to get there hands on the D3?

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July 29, 2017, 09:13:11 PM
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Isn't bitmain due for another scrypt miner? The "L5" I supppose.

I say this since the L3 and L3+ are 4 months apart on release.

First L3+ batch was on April 11
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July 29, 2017, 09:43:21 PM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.


You got to be kidding me  Angry


I got nothing and I ordered between 8-12 May....  WTF I knew they would be fucking me again

When you order doesnt really matter, its all about when your payment get confirmed.
Let me guess, you paid with bank wire? Tongue


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July 29, 2017, 10:11:54 PM
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people complaining about slow wire times in the d3 thread as well

while my wire transfer got confirmed in around 48 hours....

peculiar...
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July 29, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
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I just spent a few grand to build a 3 GPU rig to get 95 HS/s while needing to buy 3 more cards to get to 186 HS/s just to find out about these damn miners that you cant buy?
Looks like they launch some before at $1,400, now they have a new batch for $2600 that you cant order and everyone is gouging the shit out of the market at $4k to $5k?

I really want one of these but as someone fairly new to alt coins, I have apparently missed the boat on all fronts.

*runs to find the closest bridge*

Using GPUs to mine Litecoin hasn't been worthwhile for a long, long time. There are literally hundreds of other alt-coins for which GPUs rock.

If you really, really want Litecoins, use your GPUs to mine other alt-coins and exchange them. You will probably have to exchange the alt-coins you mine for Bitcoin, and then from Bitcoin to Litecoin. It's a couple of steps and some trading fees, but it is better than the fools errand of trying to mine Litecoin with GPUs.

No mining at the moment.
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July 29, 2017, 11:56:09 PM
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Isn't bitmain due for another scrypt miner? The "L5" I supppose.

I say this since the L3 and L3+ are 4 months apart on release.

First L3+ batch was on April 11

The L3s and the L3+s are essentially the same miner (the guts) so you cant compare.  But you are probably right that they arent sitting on their heels and are probably in development of another scrypt miner, they always will be until they hit critical mass of current available technology or its more profitable 100% going in another direction, and right now scrypt hardware is a good game to be in so i would expect a 2018 release of a new miner.

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July 30, 2017, 12:16:40 AM
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Isn't bitmain due for another scrypt miner? The "L5" I supppose.

I say this since the L3 and L3+ are 4 months apart on release.

First L3+ batch was on April 11
It could well be on its way to the consumer market, considering there's likely not much to improve on in the Bitcoin world with them dominating and all. I'm curious as to whether or not Bitmain will continue to expand into altcoins or if they'll just stick to the big three that they seem interested in at the moment. They've got plenty of money for R&D so there's not really a reason why they shouldn't be working on improving their miners even though their closest competitor, Innosilicon, is pretty damn far from them right now.
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July 30, 2017, 12:30:23 AM
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Hello anyone has received shipped email from Bimain for the L3+ batch 20-30 July? Today is the last business day and it is supposed to ship already. I emailed them 2 days ago but their support is quite slow this time. I thought maybe they acrually shipped but has not marked the order as shipped, but if you guys have any information, please share it to me. Thank you so much.

Yes, we had multiple batches from the July 15th and July 20-31 batches. Our first July 20-31 batch arrived last week and we just received shipping details this morning for our last July 20-31 batch. Our recorded date of purchase shown on the Bitmain order was May 15th.


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I got nothing and I ordered between 8-12 May....  WTF I knew they would be fucking me again

When you order doesnt really matter, its all about when your payment get confirmed.
Let me guess, you paid with bank wire? Tongue


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You're a Cowboy??

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July 30, 2017, 12:49:04 AM
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When is the next batch ready? The thing that frustrates me when having a thought of buying a miner is that the product is not always ready.

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July 30, 2017, 03:39:41 AM
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When is the next batch ready? The thing that frustrates me when having a thought of buying a miner is that the product is not always ready.

Nothing you can do as that is their strategy and they know it is working well for them as manufacturer.

Anyway, it is also your risk appetite too. When its is available for April, still loads of unknown, but if you do get like 10s or 100s of them at that time, today you are the clear winner. But that decision is not easy to make.

So when things are clear and known to make profit, then you might be be in time to get it. or get it with long delivery time and profit is not certain. As long you believe still have enough scrypt base coins to mine then it might still be ok. Maybe some new coins will use this algo too and you might see some sudden surge of profit.

I will think that when it is another new miner out, it will be a FOMO and will be sold in minutes. you can see the D3 etc is already happening. Will it be good or not, only time will tell.
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