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Author Topic: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner  (Read 284235 times)
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September 06, 2017, 07:44:42 PM
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Hi guys,

I do have here pretty fine offer for everyone who didnt manage to buy a miner or want his miner to be hosted somewhere with cheap enough electricity:

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September 06, 2017, 07:47:02 PM
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Sometimes I feel like we are accessing Bitmain through a "dial  up " connection.

You only live once....if you do it right, once is enough.

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September 06, 2017, 07:55:16 PM
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Well, the only way to pay for the APW3++ is via LTC or Wire. Given the overhead of wire, that really only leaves LTC.
When did they stop taking BTC? I had to do a quick trade to get LTC because all I had on hand was BTC.
Are they going to do that tomorrow with the L3+ also or will they still take BTC/Wire?

That September batch page was created around August 1st when there was some uncertainty with BTC transactions due to the fork, that's why BTC is not an option. Makes me kinda doubt if these orders will actually go through, looks like a sloppy webmaster forgot to remove the page.

But in general I prefer to pay via LTC anyway. Much faster and cheaper, less chance of a TX getting stuck due to low fee.

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September 06, 2017, 08:11:46 PM
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I bought another miner for october batch a few weeks ago, but I forgot to buy a PSU. But if I go to bitmain's website, the psu is still in cart and avaiable to buy (APW3++ for L3+, October batch 999). I want to start mining in october, so is it safe to buy it now and receive it in october?

I would use this link instead and get one from the September batch  Wink: https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020170718231543554hMDKIKD5064B

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September 06, 2017, 09:08:37 PM
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2) Second using Fedex. I wouldn't use UPS if it were free. IIRC, DHL is owned by the German post office. A few years ago DHL reduced their footprint in the US, so I would only use DHL if they were near a major metropolitan area.


 German post office owns PART of DHL, but I think they've been divesting of that over time - but very very slowly.

 Also, didn't DHL buy out FedEx a couple years or so back?


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September 06, 2017, 09:16:37 PM
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Tomorrow new batch of L3 + from bitmain at the same time as before 11 am China time

It's probably going to be another small batch, but this time it will be comprised of the unpaid wire orders. The last small batch was probably from the unpaid crypto orders, and the batch before that of course was the large batch. This may be the last chance people get to order the L3+ directly from Bitmain for a while. Just my speculations though.


I would assume they will give us a couple of chances more. At least for christmas. I doubt they will have anew gen machine at that time but at least one last L3+ batch Grin

And for Q1 2018 they will release a new one. 1 year life cycle sounds good to me (as long as I get a miner from the first 2 batches haha)

 Probability pretty close to ZERO of a new Bitmain scrypt miner in 2018 - and it would be end of the year if it DID happen.
 They'd have to move to a new process node to gain major efficiency, and THERE IS NO SUCH NEW PROCESS NODE that is likely to be available in 2018 (and for a smaller company like Bitmain even 2019 is iffy).


 People need to get through their heads that the cycle of "miner manufacturing moving to new process node every 6-8 months for major performance/efficiency gains" is OVER, miner manufacturing has caught up to semiconductor state-of-the-art and are now locked into the 3-5 year "new node" cycle of the high-end semiconductor industry - and even THAT cycle is in the middle of a shakeup as pure silicon is reaching it's end of ABILITY to go smaller.


 I doubt they care about Christmas - they care about selling the miners they CAN make when they CAN get some foundry capacity to make the chips out of TSMC.


 They MIGHT have an option for "a new model" to replace the D3 - that one appears to have been made on 28nm and there IS better process to move to on it - but the best they're going to be able to do on the L3+ (or the S9/R4/T9) is small stuff like the RX 470/480 to RX 570/580 from "minor process improvement on the same node" type gains.




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September 06, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
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Tomorrow new batch of L3 + from bitmain at the same time as before 11 am China time

The next batch is most likely going to be even more expensive than the previous one and shipping in 11-20 Nov.

2280 USD.

According to this yet hidden product page at bitmain.com https://shop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020170906220606808s81w82N8063C
a lot of difference between d3 and l3+ price

 They have a lot more direct competition on the D3 coupled with the D3 being AT BEST the "3'd best miner" available from reputable sources (might be 4'th, I forget the specs on the new Pinidea model offhand).

 I suspect their pricing is mostly a result of the new IBeLink DM22 model with some input from the new Pinidea, the Innosilicon A5 isn't priced to compete at all.

 This is the first time Bitmain has been the INFERIOR product in a specific market since the S5 vs SP20 price war.




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September 06, 2017, 09:41:44 PM
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2) Second using Fedex. I wouldn't use UPS if it were free. IIRC, DHL is owned by the German post office. A few years ago DHL reduced their footprint in the US, so I would only use DHL if they were near a major metropolitan area.


 German post office owns PART of DHL, but I think they've been divesting of that over time - but very very slowly.

 Also, didn't DHL buy out FedEx a couple years or so back?



My present day impression is that DHL tried to buy their way in and lost out to Fedex/UPS/Ontrak mudfest.
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September 06, 2017, 10:30:24 PM
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L3+ is on 28 nm node and bitmain has already got his hands on 16 nm node on which S9 is built so there is likely a chance for L5 in near future may be early next year but I think bitmain will give time to his customers for ROI and will launch L5 at least 15 to 18 months from the launch of L3+ that will be late 2018.
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September 07, 2017, 01:01:19 AM
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Who already received l3+(or ather miner) in the US? Do you need to pay any taxes or duties? Tnx.

$37.81 per miner



Hi what class or product code is it?
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September 07, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
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L3+ is on 28 nm node and bitmain has already got his hands on 16 nm node on which S9 is built so there is likely a chance for L5 in near future may be early next year but I think bitmain will give time to his customers for ROI and will launch L5 at least 15 to 18 months from the launch of L3+ that will be late 2018.

Are we sure about which node the L3+ is on? I also assumed 28nm, but I realized that I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere.

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September 07, 2017, 01:49:44 AM
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L3+ is on 28 nm node and bitmain has already got his hands on 16 nm node on which S9 is built so there is likely a chance for L5 in near future may be early next year but I think bitmain will give time to his customers for ROI and will launch L5 at least 15 to 18 months from the launch of L3+ that will be late 2018.

Are we sure about which node the L3+ is on? I also assumed 28nm, but I realized that I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere.

All current scrypt chips are on 28nm nodes.

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L3+ is on 28 nm node and bitmain has already got his hands on 16 nm node on which S9 is built so there is likely a chance for L5 in near future may be early next year but I think bitmain will give time to his customers for ROI and will launch L5 at least 15 to 18 months from the launch of L3+ that will be late 2018.

Are we sure about which node the L3+ is on? I also assumed 28nm, but I realized that I haven't seen it confirmed anywhere.
Yes L3+ is on 28 nm node
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September 07, 2017, 02:19:40 AM
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Innosilicon A4+ claims 500mh/s on 750watts with 14nm chip...would the L3+ be around the same size based on hashrate and power draw?
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September 07, 2017, 02:29:33 AM
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Who already received l3+(or ather miner) in the US? Do you need to pay any taxes or duties? Tnx.

$37.81 per miner



Hi what class or product code is it?

I was told I would have to pay the same, but since I didn't have a checkbook to write out a check to the delivery guy, I had to go pick it up the next day. When I went to go pick it up, didn't have to pay.
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September 07, 2017, 02:50:14 AM
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Who already received l3+(or ather miner) in the US? Do you need to pay any taxes or duties? Tnx.

$37.81 per miner



Hi what class or product code is it?

I was told I would have to pay the same, but since I didn't have a checkbook to write out a check to the delivery guy, I had to go pick it up the next day. When I went to go pick it up, didn't have to pay.

I've had that happen. Expect a bill in a few weeks.

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Who already received l3+(or ather miner) in the US? Do you need to pay any taxes or duties? Tnx.

$37.81 per miner



Hi what class or product code is it?

I was told I would have to pay the same, but since I didn't have a checkbook to write out a check to the delivery guy, I had to go pick it up the next day. When I went to go pick it up, didn't have to pay.

I've had that happen. Expect a bill in a few weeks.

I figured as much.
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September 07, 2017, 02:56:30 AM
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4 more min for new L3+ woot woot !!!!
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September 07, 2017, 02:58:31 AM
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4 more min for new L3+ woot woot !!!!

I thought that was tomorrow....
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September 07, 2017, 03:01:05 AM
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4 more min for new L3+ woot woot !!!!

I thought that was tomorrow....

september 7th 11 am beijing time its on now...

EDIT: $2280 wow not  interested they jacked up the price. NO THANK YOU!!!
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