[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool

[ccynthia]

I wonder if Slush had bitcoins tied up in Mt.Gox possibly?....im just looking for excuses now lol...but it is possible...other pools arent having as bad of "luck" as Slush...I've been with slush for awhile now and he has always fixed stuff quick, but this is the first time i hopped ship. Maybe slush got hit by that flaw of the missing coins as well? along with gox and other sites...weird stuff.

yes I was thinking the same thing...

SLUSH controls all my miners and he is telling my miners to not find blocks because mtgox.

on a more sane note...
these 8 hour blocks get longer the more we have...

Ok so you dont know what im talking about.....im talking about the NUMBER of online exchanges that got hit by a security flaw with bitcoin transactions,and Slush hasnt been the same since then...I wasnt comparing Mt.Gox to slush in any way, besides saying maybe he stored coins there. Im saying MAYBE he has been hit by the same glitch and the coins are gone.

Maybe, I would hope Slush has somewhere better to put his Bitcoin - like cold storage. But maybe. Just think of all the thousands of Bitcoin lost forever if not millions, hmmm, lots of possibilities there. They will never get back the lost Bitcoins and Japan has no current laws making it easy to even get lost money back. Something again to think about.

Things are in fact shacking out overall and even CampBx has issues with ACW,s and EFT's, namely - can't do it anymore! And it now takes forever to get checks from them not their normal 10 day waiting period. Is it hitting other exchanges? Only time will tell.

But while they work it out we can keep mining.

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[kkurtmann]

I wonder if Slush had bitcoins tied up in Mt.Gox possibly?....im just looking for excuses now lol...but it is possible...other pools arent having as bad of "luck" as Slush...I've been with slush for awhile now and he has always fixed stuff quick, but this is the first time i hopped ship. Maybe slush got hit by that flaw of the missing coins as well? along with gox and other sites...weird stuff.

Comedy gold right here!!!!

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[tk34]

I wonder if Slush had bitcoins tied up in Mt.Gox possibly?....im just looking for excuses now lol...but it is possible...other pools arent having as bad of "luck" as Slush...I've been with slush for awhile now and he has always fixed stuff quick, but this is the first time i hopped ship. Maybe slush got hit by that flaw of the missing coins as well? along with gox and other sites...weird stuff.

yes I was thinking the same thing...

SLUSH controls all my miners and he is telling my miners to not find blocks because mtgox.

on a more sane note...
these 8 hour blocks get longer the more we have...

Ok so you dont know what im talking about.....im talking about the NUMBER of online exchanges that got hit by a security flaw with bitcoin transactions,and Slush hasnt been the same since then...I wasnt comparing Mt.Gox to slush in any way, besides saying maybe he stored coins there. Im saying MAYBE he has been hit by the same glitch and the coins are gone.

Maybe, I would hope Slush has somewhere better to put his Bitcoin - like cold storage. But maybe. Just think of all the thousands of Bitcoin lost forever if not millions, hmmm, lots of possibilities there. They will never get back the lost Bitcoins and Japan has no current laws making it easy to even get lost money back. Something again to think about.

Things are in fact shacking out overall and even CampBx has issues with ACW,s and EFT's, namely - can't do it anymore! And it now takes forever to get checks from them not their normal 10 day waiting period. Is it hitting other exchanges? Only time will tell.

But while they work it out we can keep mining.

Cold storage makes the most sense for 2 reasons(again Im not saying  either option is right but looking at history recently with different exchanges/undergroud sites)....1 its easy to take off with the bitcoins, you can walk away with 1000's of coins, on the flip side you in theory shouldnt be hacked if you only put coins from cold storage when updating the sites main wallet...but you hit the nail,all you can do is keep mining...I want to believe in slush  and stay forever but to many unknowns. Just trying to get as many ideas as possible
**I forgot about bitstamp's problem as well with the same flaw

[PostMixer]

From Facebook:

Slush's pool
37 minutes ago
Good news, we have setup a new EU stratum server today as a replacement for the original one.

[J_Dubbs]

From Facebook:

Slush's pool
37 minutes ago
Good news, we have setup a new EU stratum server today as a replacement for the original one.

Now we need to wonder, would someone replace something if there wasn't a problem with it? Backstage issues, long blocks, yup...

I don't care because I'm swamped with work, haven't been checking often. Hopefully we see the problem lifted and shorter rounds start happening...

[eoakland]

Thank you Ghash =)

[organofcorti]

I'm also afraid to tell you that 'luck' does not exist - you can calculate probability but not luck (unless someone could post the calculation for the likelihood of luck existing)...

'Luck' exists, silly! If you earned more than expected, you've had good 'luck'. If you earned less than expected, you had bad 'luck'.

Of course luck doesn't exist it is a convenient word to cover bad judgement, calculations or events we choose not to understand or have control of.

If you expect to earn  X and you earn Y then a force has acted upon X to move its value to Y - an event, not luck.
Either way your expectation/calculation was wrong.

That calls for an "Argh".  You seem to have some math knowledge, but then you confound "expectation" in a mathematical sense, with "expectation" in some other sense.

Your expected income per difficulty 1 share is (Bitcoin reward per block) / (network difficulty). If you earn more than this per share, you've had good luck. Less than this is bad luck.

No confusion - Expectation has to be based on some form of calculation applied to factors that you know or think you know.

Yes confusion.
I told you what the expectation / mean value of the reward for one difficulty 1 equivalent share:
(Bitcoin reward per block) / (network difficulty)

That is quite calculable. If you think it's not, please explain why.

As per my previous statement - luck is a convenient word to cover bad judgement, bad calculations or events we choose not to understand or have control of. Which is Bitcoin luck do you think.

Your luck definition, in this context, is incorrect. Since at least the start of 2011, "luck" has been defined as number of difficulty 1 shares per round / difficulty (or the inverse, at some pools).

[bspurloc]

From Facebook:

Slush's pool
37 minutes ago
Good news, we have setup a new EU stratum server today as a replacement for the original one.

Now we need to wonder, would someone replace something if there wasn't a problem with it? Backstage issues, long blocks, yup...

I don't care because I'm swamped with work, haven't been checking often. Hopefully we see the problem lifted and shorter rounds start happening...

can you please show us with X's and O's how back end  hardware causes long blocks.

my request of u is as loony as...

[PostMixer]

Slush's pool
16 hours ago
Our EU stratum server is currently unreachable, all mining has been redirected to the US locations. We will keep you posted.

This was why he replaced his server.

On another note. This is the first time since I've been in this pool ( 4 months? ) that I have all of my shares confirmed!

[Searing]

Slush's pool
16 hours ago
Our EU stratum server is currently unreachable, all mining has been redirected to the US locations. We will keep you posted.

This was why he replaced his server.

On another note. This is the first time since I've been in this pool ( 4 months? ) that I have all of my shares confirmed!

er i'm missing something does this mean this miinng i'm currently doing is not really a 17:13 hr block? or is it just a coincidence?

(the ways of slush are confusing to me!)

Searing

[CryptoGuy2014]

Is it me or have 12hr+ blocks been really common lately?

I am kinda wondering what the block length will be in about 8hrs when difficulty jumps to 3,800,299,673?

May end up jumping ship if slushes pool can't get the hash rate up to complete blocks quickly.

It just isn't justifiable to stay on a pool that solves 2-3 blocks in 24hrs.

[qqhua]

21743   2014-02-27 03:28:59   8:15:39   5847647408   12538810   0.01035140   288025   25.06305116   Please look down, is unknown error in calculation

[dburdett84]

Is it me or have 12hr+ blocks been really common lately?

I am kinda wondering what the block length will be in about 8hrs when difficulty jumps to 3,800,299,673?

May end up jumping ship if slushes pool can't get the hash rate up to complete blocks quickly.

It just isn't justifiable to stay on a pool that solves 2-3 blocks in 24hrs.

BTC Guild has cleared 11 blocks in the last 7.5 hours, Much better over there. Slush has turned into a joke.

[spixel]

Hi,

I have a small amount of btc awaiting payout. I previously had the threshold set too high, I have just reduced it. How long does this take?

[kfactor]

This is the first time I've ever had 0 confirmed, 0 unconfirmed and 0 balance (fully paid).

I think it's a sign.

[Mixim]

I am often confused about block time and numbers of actual shares >90% - I am still very new to this mining, but so far I understood that we all try to solve the actual block and if somebody else find we start over with a new one and even more with arrival of new transaction, they in included in calculation - so at all we again start over? How often? After every new transaction, after 10, after 100 or it`s limited? If we always start over - we at all ever try more then 1-5% of possibs on one calculation?

[ipoomyself]

liston i went to bed at 2:00am and woke up at 12:00 pm.  I am in the bedroom getting dressed thinking about the situation at hand.

I hath earned more in this period of time than I hath in a day with mt.slush.

Based on this information I am looking after number 1 and decideth to stick on BTC guild until i die.

It hath given me more information than any other pool in the world.  The blocs are steady and frequent and stabol i cannot ask for more than that.

BTC dose not mess me about and in return i do not mess it about i respect it all.

[Trefdraeth]

liston i went to bed at 2:00am and woke up at 12:00 pm.  I am in the bedroom getting dressed thinking about the situation at hand.

I hath earned more in this period of time than I hath in a day with mt.slush.

Based on this information I am looking after number 1 and decideth to stick on BTC guild until i die.

It hath given me more information than any other pool in the world.  The blocs are steady and frequent and stabol i cannot ask for more than that.

BTC dose not mess me about and in return i do not mess it about i respect it all.

Good luck, Sir.

Over the last 30 days I have received EXACTLY what I expected from Slush in terms of rewards. Yes, some days have been great, and some truly awful. But that's the game.

Enjoy elsewhere, but do try not to come to a forum for a pool you are no longer using and troll.

It's a waste of your valuable time. Moan on their forum, instead

[dlowings]

liston i went to bed at 2:00am and woke up at 12:00 pm.  I am in the bedroom getting dressed thinking about the situation at hand.

I hath earned more in this period of time than I hath in a day with mt.slush.

Based on this information I am looking after number 1 and decideth to stick on BTC guild until i die.

It hath given me more information than any other pool in the world.  The blocs are steady and frequent and stabol i cannot ask for more than that.

BTC dose not mess me about and in return i do not mess it about i respect it all.

Good luck, Sir.

Over the last 30 days I have received EXACTLY what I expected from Slush in terms of rewards. Yes, some days have been great, and some truly awful. But that's the game.

Enjoy elsewhere, but do try not to come to a forum for a pool you are no longer using and troll.

It's a waste of your valuable time. Moan on their forum, instead

Don't you get it ?  These are the people who jump back when luck swings.. Otherwise you're right they have little need to stick around... The sit in other pools collecting smaller payouts, and swing back to the bigger payouts when things get resolved..

Btw , I'm starting to doubt our published hash rate on the front stats page and thinking that because our hash rate has not gained like other pools as the difficulty has increased we have maybe been left out in the cold..

Just a theory..

[anthem]

I straddle both pools pretty equally. . .  In the last 10 days, BTC-g has paid more than slush exactly 6 times vs 4 for slush. .    That being said, on two of those days slush's pool paid almost 75% more than the BTC-g average - so the score is essentially 6 vs 5.5.  It's that close, even with the bad run of "luck". . .  

BTC has much less variance over it obviously so its payouts tend to be fairly stable.   Slush has a lot more variance. .  There are days when slush's pool can pay double what btc-g pays, and there are days where slush can pay 1/2 of what btc-g pays. .   But its very very close between the two. .   just the variance is greater with one vs the other. .  On a good run of probability/luck with slush, it'll easily outpace the other pools.  unfortunately its been on a rather bad run recently.

and to give a better indication. .  BTC guild hasn't found a block in 1.5 hours now.  Since they have 6.5x the hashing power of slush - that equates to an 9 hour block for them. . .  Granted its not a 22 hour block just yet, but similar concept.