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February 23, 2014, 09:15:09 AM
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Why is invalid rewards 287249?
It sometimes happens that 2 pools find a block 'almost at the same time', so the first one one of them wins, and the other one becomes an 'orphan' or 'invalid'.  This happens sometimes, not very often.

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It's not always the first one that wins - network connectivity plays a large part too.

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February 23, 2014, 12:09:05 PM
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I shall refrain from writing in RED bold text in future as some of the estrogen filled old bulls seem to charge for it...

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February 23, 2014, 04:18:54 PM
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Someone please explain to me how this works?



With over 2 million shares how has my payout dropped to that little? please explain.
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February 23, 2014, 04:32:02 PM
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Someone please explain to me how this works?
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February 23, 2014, 05:10:42 PM
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Someone please explain to me how this works?
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 Grin Well it looks like someone expects something good out of MtGox today judging by the price of BTC. Can someone please start a good rumor to bring it down for us miners? I was really kind of liking MtGox for being the poster child for BTC bad news.

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February 23, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
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It's not always the first one that wins - network connectivity plays a large part too.
This time GHash.IO beat us to it by a couple of seconds and won fair and square.

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February 23, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
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I am working on stratum protocol and there is not much explained about this anywhere on web, so I have to ask here.

Would it be possible to delegate work that I get from stratum pool further?

Pool <-> mypool <-> cgminer instances

Only single connection would be kept between pool and mypool. All work passed from pool should be adequately modified for each cgminer instance in mypool and all shares from cgminer instances should be modified in mypool to be accepted by the pool.

I believe if I simply send same work to each cgminer instance then they would be working on same work which is pointless and would only waste hashes for nothing?

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February 23, 2014, 08:43:53 PM
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I am working on stratum protocol and there is not much explained about this anywhere on web, so I have to ask here.

Would it be possible to delegate work that I get from stratum pool further?

Pool <-> mypool <-> cgminer instances

Only single connection would be kept between pool and mypool. All work passed from pool should be adequately modified for each cgminer instance in mypool and all shares from cgminer instances should be modified in mypool to be accepted by the pool.

I believe if I simply send same work to each cgminer instance then they would be working on same work which is pointless and would only waste hashes for nothing?
What you describe is simply stratum proxy - no need to reinvent the wheel, just download and run it.

EDIT: check http://mining.bitcoin.cz/mining-proxy-howto

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February 23, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
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No, stratum proxy is a link between stratum pool and ordinary non-stratum miner.

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February 23, 2014, 08:58:17 PM
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You can point cgminer or bfgminer at a stratum proxy just fine.
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February 23, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
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I know I can, but I am looking for lightweight solution I can code on my own, if it is possible... No need to use python + going one step back by using getwork if I can eventually code everything in C for super fast execution and when I will need to scale this to great sizes.

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February 23, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
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still over 2 million shares and i get a tiny tiny fraction of my normal payout, my shares have not dropped my hashrate has not dropped.  this is a fucking joke, and fucking funny shit with the LMGTFY link..  If it cant be explained then the one place I have trusted since i started mining almost 3 years ago has turned to a fucking joke.
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February 23, 2014, 10:14:24 PM
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still over 2 million shares and i get a tiny tiny fraction of my normal payout, my shares have not dropped my hashrate has not dropped.  this is a fucking joke, and fucking funny shit with the LMGTFY link..  If it cant be explained then the one place I have trusted since i started mining almost 3 years ago has turned to a fucking joke.

The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"

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February 23, 2014, 10:30:16 PM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.

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February 23, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
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You can point cgminer or bfgminer at a stratum proxy just fine.

Hmmm.

I would like to funnel all my work through my raspberry pi so I can monitor overall performance of my devices at a sole source though minepeon's webUI and have the ability to redirect work if required from that same source. My understanding is stratum is designed to not be resource intensive so I'm thinking this may not be an insane idea pushing the workload through the lowly pi. Currently I use the pi to proxy getwork from Asicminer cube's but I want to run S1's through it also. The S1 runs cgminer AFAIK using stratum (obviously it's connected to slush) but is it feasible to use the proxy functionality within minepeon to proxy S1's? Basically what I want to do is point S1 at the pi the same way I point a cube at the pi.

Ultimately I want to do this so when I'm away from home I can access the webUI and check the health status of the equipment and reroute in the unlikely event a major malfunction occurs with the pool.
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February 23, 2014, 10:55:44 PM
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You can point cgminer or bfgminer at a stratum proxy just fine.

Hmmm.

I would like to funnel all my work through my raspberry pi so I can monitor overall performance of my devices at a sole source though minepeon's webUI and have the ability to redirect work if required from that same source. My understanding is stratum is designed to not be resource intensive so I'm thinking this may not be an insane idea pushing the workload through the lowly pi. Currently I use the pi to proxy getwork from Asicminer cube's but I want to run S1's through it also. The S1 runs cgminer AFAIK using stratum (obviously it's connected to slush) but is it feasible to use the proxy functionality within minepeon to proxy S1's? Basically what I want to do is point S1 at the pi the same way I point a cube at the pi.

Ultimately I want to do this so when I'm away from home I can access the webUI and check the health status of the equipment and reroute in the unlikely event a major malfunction occurs with the pool.

I have been using TeamViewer to log in to my devices remotely from my phone. (free for personal use)
BFGMiner is easily accessible on PC, other devices, like minepeon on rPi and S1's can be viewed from Chrome Tabs or Chrome bookmarks.

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February 23, 2014, 11:08:33 PM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.



Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?
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February 23, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
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I know I can, but I am looking for lightweight solution I can code on my own, if it is possible... No need to use python + going one step back by using getwork if I can eventually code everything in C for super fast execution and when I will need to scale this to great sizes.

Try running on slush's proxy with the mid state C extensions.  It is significantly faster and is easy to do:

https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy

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Edit:  You do have to be on linux to do this...
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February 23, 2014, 11:34:40 PM
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I know I can, but I am looking for lightweight solution I can code on my own, if it is possible... No need to use python + going one step back by using getwork if I can eventually code everything in C for super fast execution and when I will need to scale this to great sizes.

Try running on slush's proxy with the mid state C extensions.  It is significantly faster and is easy to do:

https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy

Near the bottom.

Edit:  You do have to be on linux to do this...

Until there is a real solution, I will do simple tunneling with username+pass modification and recording shares in the way to calculate approx. hashing speed. I was mostly worried about bad handing of dead connections by cgminer (cgminer usually takes 5min or more to switch to "stable" pool), but it looks like it is connecting right back into.

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February 24, 2014, 02:36:49 AM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.



Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?

Dropping all kinds of F bombs doesn't fix anything. And no I don't mind them just seems a bit dramatic. I agree that you got screwed on that round, but the best person (s) to "fix" that is the pool operators. So excuse me for asking the obvious but, did you fill out a ticket on that? Also I have had some responses to questions asked on Slush's Facebook page lately. Not trying to be a dick, just saying all the explanations from everyone here won't get your reward fixed. But in my experience if theres been a blatant issue like yours it will be fixed if it is pointed out to the pool management.

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