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February 23, 2014, 10:14:24 PM
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Someone please explain to me how this works?
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still over 2 million shares and i get a tiny tiny fraction of my normal payout, my shares have not dropped my hashrate has not dropped.  this is a fucking joke, and fucking funny shit with the LMGTFY link..  If it cant be explained then the one place I have trusted since i started mining almost 3 years ago has turned to a fucking joke.

The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"

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February 23, 2014, 10:30:16 PM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.

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February 23, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
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You can point cgminer or bfgminer at a stratum proxy just fine.

Hmmm.

I would like to funnel all my work through my raspberry pi so I can monitor overall performance of my devices at a sole source though minepeon's webUI and have the ability to redirect work if required from that same source. My understanding is stratum is designed to not be resource intensive so I'm thinking this may not be an insane idea pushing the workload through the lowly pi. Currently I use the pi to proxy getwork from Asicminer cube's but I want to run S1's through it also. The S1 runs cgminer AFAIK using stratum (obviously it's connected to slush) but is it feasible to use the proxy functionality within minepeon to proxy S1's? Basically what I want to do is point S1 at the pi the same way I point a cube at the pi.

Ultimately I want to do this so when I'm away from home I can access the webUI and check the health status of the equipment and reroute in the unlikely event a major malfunction occurs with the pool.
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February 23, 2014, 10:55:44 PM
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You can point cgminer or bfgminer at a stratum proxy just fine.

Hmmm.

I would like to funnel all my work through my raspberry pi so I can monitor overall performance of my devices at a sole source though minepeon's webUI and have the ability to redirect work if required from that same source. My understanding is stratum is designed to not be resource intensive so I'm thinking this may not be an insane idea pushing the workload through the lowly pi. Currently I use the pi to proxy getwork from Asicminer cube's but I want to run S1's through it also. The S1 runs cgminer AFAIK using stratum (obviously it's connected to slush) but is it feasible to use the proxy functionality within minepeon to proxy S1's? Basically what I want to do is point S1 at the pi the same way I point a cube at the pi.

Ultimately I want to do this so when I'm away from home I can access the webUI and check the health status of the equipment and reroute in the unlikely event a major malfunction occurs with the pool.

I have been using TeamViewer to log in to my devices remotely from my phone. (free for personal use)
BFGMiner is easily accessible on PC, other devices, like minepeon on rPi and S1's can be viewed from Chrome Tabs or Chrome bookmarks.

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February 23, 2014, 11:08:33 PM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.



Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?
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February 23, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
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I know I can, but I am looking for lightweight solution I can code on my own, if it is possible... No need to use python + going one step back by using getwork if I can eventually code everything in C for super fast execution and when I will need to scale this to great sizes.

Try running on slush's proxy with the mid state C extensions.  It is significantly faster and is easy to do:

https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy

Near the bottom.

Edit:  You do have to be on linux to do this...
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February 23, 2014, 11:34:40 PM
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I know I can, but I am looking for lightweight solution I can code on my own, if it is possible... No need to use python + going one step back by using getwork if I can eventually code everything in C for super fast execution and when I will need to scale this to great sizes.

Try running on slush's proxy with the mid state C extensions.  It is significantly faster and is easy to do:

https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy

Near the bottom.

Edit:  You do have to be on linux to do this...

Until there is a real solution, I will do simple tunneling with username+pass modification and recording shares in the way to calculate approx. hashing speed. I was mostly worried about bad handing of dead connections by cgminer (cgminer usually takes 5min or more to switch to "stable" pool), but it looks like it is connecting right back into.

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February 24, 2014, 02:36:49 AM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.



Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?

Dropping all kinds of F bombs doesn't fix anything. And no I don't mind them just seems a bit dramatic. I agree that you got screwed on that round, but the best person (s) to "fix" that is the pool operators. So excuse me for asking the obvious but, did you fill out a ticket on that? Also I have had some responses to questions asked on Slush's Facebook page lately. Not trying to be a dick, just saying all the explanations from everyone here won't get your reward fixed. But in my experience if theres been a blatant issue like yours it will be fixed if it is pointed out to the pool management.

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February 24, 2014, 02:38:43 AM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.


Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?

this has been an ongoing problem going on over a year now...this thread is full of this...it happened to me n many other n never gets fixed...slush is busy doing other stuff to care about his pool...everyone says just wait it'll correct itself...and i did once, but then it never did so i left and i suggest you do the same Smiley all you faithful slushy fans can say whatever ya want but i'm happy knowing you'll get screwed someday n be in the same boat Cheesy good day

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February 24, 2014, 02:39:30 AM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.

Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?

Clearly your reward for Slush block 21728 is inconsistent with the other blocks.  How do you connect your miners to the internet?  Is it possible that your mining or connection was interrupted or corrupted a few minutes before the end of this block?  That might explain the reduction due to Slush's unique 'anit-hopping' algorithm. I checked my reward for this block and it was consistent with adjacent blocks.

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February 24, 2014, 03:11:59 AM
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The pool is now back to 864813 Ghash/s

All the Hoppers Skippers and Jumpers are coming back now the luck figures have returned to "normal"
While that would bring about a small reduction in dburdett84's reward, it would not explain the figure he sees.

It might be useful to learn what the preceding and following rounds look like: what the ratio of his shares to the total are normally compared to this one.  A single line in isolation doesn't give us much to go on.



Here is more then just the one horribly wrong reward, again can anyone explain this to me?  is Slush just fucking with us or is his pool really turning to shit I have only ever mined with since like sept 2011 but, if i can digress back to Kindergarten for a bit "I am gonna take all my toys and go home". 

Just looking for an idea of what the crap happened?

I don't know what to tell you.. It is printed in plain sight for everyone to read... The anti pool hoping algorithm that slush uses works agains you and every pool member ... There are other pools that do not penelize people for network drops and such, you just have to find them... look at block chain.net and then do some research ... I think in the end you'll be happy .. 

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February 24, 2014, 03:39:38 AM
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I don't know what to tell you.. It is printed in plain sight for everyone to read... The anti pool hoping algorithm that slush uses works agains you and every pool member ... There are other pools that do not penelize people for network drops and such, you just have to find them... look at block chain.net and then do some research ... I think in the end you'll be happy .. 
I'd agree, this doesn't seem to be a case of the reward being off for everyone like it is often. It looks like you lost connection.
#         your share %
21732  .111%
21731  .109%
21730  .109%
21729  .0785%
21728  .093%
21727  .105%

Are you sure you didn't have a rig down for maintenance or a miner that switched to a backup pool?
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February 24, 2014, 03:54:39 AM
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As far as I know there there was no network drop and nothing went down from what I can tell.

I have two separate connections coming that are bridged and then connected to the switch my miners connect to.  Even if i lost one incoming line the other one would have still carried the load.  I have been looking as far back as I can and didn't see anything off, no loss of connection no miners dropping, just seems like I got the shaft.

I did submit a ticket, but I do that for every problem and never hear anything  back.  There is always a slight variance to the number of shares my miner pulls compared to the pool since they can not seem to find a var diff they like they are always bouncing around, I just go with it since this is more of a hobby for me then anything, but it is just discouraging when I get hit with a problem like this.  

crashoveride54902 - What pool did you move to?  I am considering jumping ship, its just a tough choice since I have been here since 2011, and it has never given me this much trouble as it has in the past month.
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February 24, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
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As far as I know there there was no network drop and nothing went down from what I can tell.

I have two separate connections coming that are bridged and then connected to the switch my miners connect to.  Even if i lost one incoming line the other one would have still carried the load.  I have been looking as far back as I can and didn't see anything off, no loss of connection no miners dropping, just seems like I got the shaft.

I did submit a ticket, but I do that for every problem and never hear anything  back.  There is always a slight variance to the number of shares my miner pulls compared to the pool since they can not seem to find a var diff they like they are always bouncing around, I just go with it since this is more of a hobby for me then anything, but it is just discouraging when I get hit with a problem like this.  

crashoveride54902 - What pool did you move to?  I am considering jumping ship, its just a tough choice since I have been here since 2011, and it has never given me this much trouble as it has in the past month.
You can try to divide your hashing power between a couple of pools (mining clients such as bfgminer and cgminer allow you to set up a 'load balance' among multiple pools).  The division doesn't have to be equal, you can apportion some fraction to another pool (or pools) to act as a 'monitor'.  Or you can divide your hashing resources equally between a few pools as a 'spread the risk' approach.  The 'monitoring' would not give you the 'full picture' though, as Slush's short-term 'anti-hopping' thing is unique  (some people claim that it can be exploited as well, as you'd get the full reward if you hopped back to Slush just a few minutes before the end of a block).

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February 24, 2014, 10:50:27 AM
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As far as I know there there was no network drop and nothing went down from what I can tell.

I have two separate connections coming that are bridged and then connected to the switch my miners connect to.  Even if i lost one incoming line the other one would have still carried the load.  I have been looking as far back as I can and didn't see anything off, no loss of connection no miners dropping, just seems like I got the shaft.

I did submit a ticket, but I do that for every problem and never hear anything  back.  There is always a slight variance to the number of shares my miner pulls compared to the pool since they can not seem to find a var diff they like they are always bouncing around, I just go with it since this is more of a hobby for me then anything, but it is just discouraging when I get hit with a problem like this.  

crashoveride54902 - What pool did you move to?  I am considering jumping ship, its just a tough choice since I have been here since 2011, and it has never given me this much trouble as it has in the past month.
I was on Slush since June 2013 and have moved on as well. I now split my hashing between BTC Guild and Eligius evenly. I can compare the two pools and it seems when one pool is having good luck the other is having poor luck, so I am not sitting and waiting as I was with Slush. I also in the past have been paid what seems the wrong amount a few times that never were adjusted right but for the most part it was. I switched as the pools % of network hash rate has dropped to a point that the amount of blocks found on average is getting to low and the good luck days are getting to far in between.  It's to bad as in the past when Slush was close to being at the top in size it paid much better than the other pools.

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February 24, 2014, 11:10:15 AM
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I'd agree, this doesn't seem to be a case of the reward being off for everyone like it is often. It looks like you lost connection.
#         your share %
21732  .111%
21731  .109%
21730  .109%
21729  .0785%
21728  .093%
21727  .105%

Are you sure you didn't have a rig down for maintenance or a miner that switched to a backup pool?
I'm inclined to agree with the "lost connection" answer.  21728 (where you got the bum deal) shows a small drop, while the next round - 21729 - shows a larger one.  If the lost connection occurred towards the end of 21728 it could account for the low reward due to the rapidly decreasing value of the shares already submitted, while the next round was long enough for the reward to recover after the connection was re-established.

It looks to me as if you were the victim of circumstances, such as a temporary issue with your ISP, rather than any fault in the pool.  A half hour's downtime could easily go unnoticed unless you are actually using the computer when it happens.

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February 24, 2014, 11:27:39 AM
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This pool really has 850 TH ?
Is 850 TH on the top end or is their a larger pool ?

I have 1.5TH.. That is probably 0.001% of the network right Sad ?
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February 24, 2014, 01:03:53 PM
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This pool really has 850 TH ?
Is 850 TH on the top end or is their a larger pool ?
At the time of writing it's up to 869 TH/s.  It did top 900 before we had a run of bad luck and some people ran away.

Some pools are much bigger: BTCguild is currently 5206 TH/s, and other are larger still, but I CBA to look them up.  Cool

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February 24, 2014, 01:14:16 PM
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This pool really has 850 TH ?
Is 850 TH on the top end or is their a larger pool ?
At the time of writing it's up to 869 TH/s.  It did top 900 before we had a run of bad luck and some people ran away.

Some pools are much bigger: BTCguild is currently 5206 TH/s, and other are larger still, but I CBA to look them up.  Cool

http://organofcorti.blogspot.co.uk/

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February 24, 2014, 01:40:34 PM
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This pool really has 850 TH ?
Is 850 TH on the top end or is their a larger pool ?
At the time of writing it's up to 869 TH/s.  It did top 900 before we had a run of bad luck and some people ran away.

Some pools are much bigger: BTCguild is currently 5206 TH/s, and other are larger still, but I CBA to look them up.  Cool

http://organofcorti.blogspot.co.uk/

organofcorti is one smart dude.  I don't understand half of those damn charts...I am certain organofcorti is Satoshi Nakamoto  =)

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