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October 15, 2015, 03:07:33 AM
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So who relayed block 378943 ? Tongue

https://blockchain.info/en/blocks/Slush
https://chain.btc.com/en/block/000000000000000002857f062e635f1c6779e9dd6f85bfe528bfc8f352b33ca3


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October 15, 2015, 03:17:55 AM
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SLUSH scored this block according to Tradeblock too - but its missing in Slush stats etc

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https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/block/378943


Block Time  15 Oct 2015 15:21 (an hour ago)
Confirmations  7
Miner  Slush
Chain  Main
Hash  000000000000000002857f062e635f1c6779e9dd6f85bfe528bfc8f352b33ca3
Difficulty  60.8B
Nonce  2,318,222,444
Size  189,907 B
Fee/size  32.10953256 sat/B
Version  3

I guess Slush know if they hit it - or not?



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October 15, 2015, 10:49:50 PM
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SLUSH scored this block according to Tradeblock too - but its missing in Slush stats etc

Tradeblock

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/block/378943


Block Time  15 Oct 2015 15:21 (an hour ago)
Confirmations  7
Miner  Slush
Chain  Main
Hash  000000000000000002857f062e635f1c6779e9dd6f85bfe528bfc8f352b33ca3
Difficulty  60.8B
Nonce  2,318,222,444
Size  189,907 B
Fee/size  32.10953256 sat/B
Version  3

I guess Slush know if they hit it - or not?




It says, ANTPOOL found this block...


BTC ADDRESS: 1HBSBwbFDg2XQii8cNJGAhLyd2mFS4jbG9
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October 15, 2015, 11:27:38 PM
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Yeah Antpool relayed.

But someone added a coinbase signature to the block that read as 'Slush's pool is the BEST' so, some sites picked it wrong...
Quite funny if you ask me...

https://www.antpool.com/coinbase.htm
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October 15, 2015, 11:30:01 PM
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And can someone go kick the box and fix the luck plz?  Roll Eyes
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October 15, 2015, 11:36:54 PM
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Thank you I appeciate.
https://blockchain.info/en/block/00000000000000000aea3681f11c81c5df7f76b3a4c2e64ae65273b38e8965c9
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October 16, 2015, 05:56:28 PM
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What is the story with all orphans? Is this Slush not looking at what blocks he mined and looking at coinbase or do we really get 1 a day?
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October 16, 2015, 06:01:05 PM
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Just some salt on the bad luck xD
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October 16, 2015, 09:42:01 PM
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Just some salt on the bad luck xD
You know that for sure or are you just guessing. 0.5% is normal, 8 to 9% is not...
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October 17, 2015, 05:12:49 AM
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 :PWow so close from another Orphan!!

Glad Slush won this one!

CHEERS!

https://blockchain.info/fr/block/000000000000000006d35d842f76f70bb5831f2e36337c03e61b837b48f14e5a
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October 17, 2015, 10:14:00 PM
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Jesus fucking christ.

Slush orphan rate is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With such bad luck for a 30ph pool, this is really unbelievable.

No really. You suck Slush!

https://blockchain.info/fr/block/000000000000000004d09e31247aa0efbba89cb35c146f96f7150d76c810d395
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October 18, 2015, 04:04:28 PM
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I.... Fucking give up.
Slush just scored another Orphan. Block 25170 Is found by Antpool. Slush fucked up again.
https://blockchain.info/block-index/00000000000000000b4153e7d0151f93a80ea128c6e478cdf4e52a56710953ec?site=slush



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October 18, 2015, 08:13:47 PM
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Does anyone see these Orphaned blocks as an attack by some of these Chinese Pools (specifically Antminer)?
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October 18, 2015, 08:25:38 PM
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Does anyone see these Orphaned blocks as an attack by some of these Chinese Pools (specifically Antminer)?

More likely it's just Slush's pool backend not updating to other blocks on the network fast enough (or being really slow in releasing its own blocks).  He's the only one having such absurd orphan rates, the problem is on his end.

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October 18, 2015, 08:42:58 PM
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Does anyone see these Orphaned blocks as an attack by some of these Chinese Pools (specifically Antminer)?

More likely it's just Slush's pool backend not updating to other blocks on the network fast enough (or being really slow in releasing its own blocks).  He's the only one having such absurd orphan rates, the problem is on his end.
Presumably everything has slowed down due to the extra load of having so much hashrate on his pool. Since slush's pool code is python, it's likely just the slowdown of python not scaling to the greater number of clients it's seeing. He either needs more mining nodes or better software.

From memory, slush's pool used to prioritise which clients got block updates first - since it takes time to send updates to all the miners, he prioritised the biggest miners first so all the small miners used to get the block change later. Perhaps even that workaround is no longer enough.

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October 18, 2015, 08:49:38 PM
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Im small time trying out this Bitcoin mining.
Suck to put in the hours and not get anything but shit happens.

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October 18, 2015, 08:52:40 PM
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Presumably everything has slowed down due to the extra load of having so much hashrate on his pool. Since slush's pool code is python, it's likely just the slowdown of python not scaling to the greater number of clients it's seeing. He either needs more mining nodes or better software.

From memory, slush's pool used to prioritise which clients got block updates first - since it takes time to send updates to all the miners, he prioritised the biggest miners first so all the small miners used to get the block change later. Perhaps even that workaround is no longer enough.

I'd assume something else is the issue.  I highly doubt he has more active miners than ever, just higher speed ones.  There's way fewer small fries out there today than there were a year or more ago.  In a proper implementation of vardiff, the speed of connected miners should have absolutely no impact on actual server load, only the number of miners in general.

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October 18, 2015, 09:05:37 PM
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Presumably everything has slowed down due to the extra load of having so much hashrate on his pool. Since slush's pool code is python, it's likely just the slowdown of python not scaling to the greater number of clients it's seeing. He either needs more mining nodes or better software.

From memory, slush's pool used to prioritise which clients got block updates first - since it takes time to send updates to all the miners, he prioritised the biggest miners first so all the small miners used to get the block change later. Perhaps even that workaround is no longer enough.

I'd assume something else is the issue.  I highly doubt he has more active miners than ever, just higher speed ones.  There's way fewer small fries out there today than there were a year or more ago.  In a proper implementation of vardiff, the speed of connected miners should have absolutely no impact on actual server load, only the number of miners in general.
Well, probably that in combination with bitcoinds that haven't been optimised to cope in this transaction spam environment which can cause massive mempool and cpu blowouts and subsequently very slow block changes/getblocktemplate calls.

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October 18, 2015, 09:17:38 PM
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In an email reply I received from Slush inquiring about the abnormally high invalid blocks he responded by stating "it was a matter of chance to end up with invalid block".  And additionally stating "We don't have direct impact over this behavior.  Invalid blocks are natural part of the Blockchain ecosystem..."

Do all of you agree with this?
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October 18, 2015, 09:23:37 PM
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In an email reply I received from Slush inquiring about the abnormally high invalid blocks he responded by stating "it was a matter of chance to end up with invalid block".  And additionally stating "We don't have direct impact over this behavior.  Invalid blocks are natural part of the Blockchain ecosystem..."

Do all of you agree with this?
It is an expected phenomenon of the way blocks propagate that orphans will eventually occur, but it is the responsibility of the pool owner to optimise their design to minimise this effect. Having orphans is expected, yes, but having a high rate of orphans is not expected. Check the orphan rates of other pools. The percentage should be about the same for all pools, irrespective of their size, though statistically it would be hard to get an accurate percentage on smaller pools simply because of the number of blocks solved.

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