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Author Topic: [2+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 4324138 times)
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June 03, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
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Anyone else seeing the earlier problem recurring? 1 of my 4 workers is submitting shares ok but website not updating for this one worker - 12 mins now...

[EDIT] hmm - restarted the worker and it's updating on the website now...

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June 03, 2013, 05:27:29 PM
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Recent luck attracts more users? 12 GH/s now

Slush went up from 8% of total network hashrate to 10%

In ideal conditions more = better

But will it blend? (server loads)
Luck makes pool look bigger also... Speed is estimated. Pool doesn't ask users what is there speed. It estimate it based on shares. Same goes for network share. If pool is lucky it will get bigger...
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June 03, 2013, 05:29:07 PM
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Anyone else seeing the earlier problem recurring? 1 of my 4 workers is submitting shares ok but website not updating for this one worker - 12 mins now...

[EDIT] hmm - restarted the worker and it's updating on the website now...
You had stratum error. If you restart the worker it starts recording shares but you still need to wait to get the missing shares back.
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June 03, 2013, 05:37:56 PM
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Luck makes pool look bigger also... Speed is estimated. Pool doesn't ask users what is there speed. It estimate it based on shares. Same goes for network share. If pool is lucky it will get bigger...
That's not the case if you ask organofcorti Smiley

There is something which is partially true (IMHO) by the way: 'Pool doesn't ask users what is their speed' - true, but most of the miners are sending their hashrate anyway, then the problem is that the value can not be trusted so the pool should either confirm the value or ignore it completely with the second being easier. For the network it is completely true, as it does not interact with the miners or pools, but deducts their hashrate from their submissions.

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June 03, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
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...but most of the miners are sending their hashrate anyway, then the problem is that the value can not be trusted so the pool should either confirm the value or ignore it completely with the second being easier.
Thanks, didn't know that...
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June 03, 2013, 08:44:08 PM
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https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getwork#noncerange and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=24336.0 and at least CGminer is sending it (based on my tcpdumps)

EDIT: The problem is that it send my total hashrate while i am load-balancing between several pools, so there is no way it can be trusted

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June 03, 2013, 09:22:44 PM
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...but most of the miners are sending their hashrate anyway, then the problem is that the value can not be trusted so the pool should either confirm the value or ignore it completely with the second being easier.
Thanks, didn't know that...

regardless. if you say the hashrate going from 10543.740 Ghash/s 2 weeks ago to 11543.740 Ghash/s is because of luck then you are declaring ALL miners are having increased luck which is not how probability works. Cluster performance looks like it is showing the actual hashrate to the assumed hashrate.  for example 2 of my 6 miners are presently lower than their normal hashrate, one is well above and the last 3 are dead on.
Now the pool is hitting 12543.740 Ghash/s a week after it when up 1000 gh/s it has gone up another 1000 gh/s. the only answer has to be that 1000 gh/s of miners joined Slush 2 weeks ago and 1000 gh/s of miners joined this week.
All I know is every 1000 gh/s increase negates one of my miners grrr... I just added 2 to make up for the 1000 from 2 weeks ago!
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June 03, 2013, 09:32:58 PM
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The rule: Higher pool luck = higher payments, lower pool luck = lower payments!


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June 03, 2013, 11:07:39 PM
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hah Block 239570 our next was 2 seconds and we invalidated our own block.....
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June 03, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
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hah Block 239570 our next was 2 seconds and we invalidated our own block.....

Could you explain this please?
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June 03, 2013, 11:10:56 PM
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The rule: Higher pool luck = higher payments, lower pool luck = lower payments!

If that is the only rule LUCK dictates u should mine BTCGUILD as they find 50+ blocks a day aka must have good luck.

so BTCGUILD Luck > Slush Luck.

However Slush Pool > BTCGUILD = Higher Payments
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June 03, 2013, 11:12:30 PM
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hah Block 239570 our next was 2 seconds and we invalidated our own block.....

Could you explain this please?

18373   2013-06-03 22:57:34   0:00:02   16141   7   0.01064283   239570   25.23781000    97 confirmations left
18372   2013-06-03 22:57:32   1:18:06   13727369   3341   0.00607761   239570   25.23781000    97 confirmations left

18373 took 2 seconds and got submitted while 18372 was and became invalid... I surmise.... Sucks I lost .01+ btc. OH WELL
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June 03, 2013, 11:16:33 PM
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Which is being invalid 239570?  The first block or the 2 seconds block?  Not is matter - 2 shares in second block for about same rewarding both blocks.  Hoping could not happen both invalid.

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June 03, 2013, 11:17:48 PM
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2 second block, is a bug. It has exactly same block value, which is hardly a coincidence.
first one is in the main chain anyway (2 sec one is the invalid one).

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June 03, 2013, 11:29:31 PM
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Maybe that's the fix for the block we didn't get before.


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June 03, 2013, 11:30:12 PM
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The rule: Higher pool luck = higher payments, lower pool luck = lower payments!

If that is the only rule LUCK dictates u should mine BTCGUILD as they find 50+ blocks a day aka must have good luck.

so BTCGUILD Luck > Slush Luck.

However Slush Pool > BTCGUILD = Higher Payments
Luck is not defined as blocks per day. Its defined as blocks / hashrate  per day

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June 03, 2013, 11:32:58 PM
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Maybe that's the fix for the block we didn't get before.


I doubt that as 2 secs is way too short to be fair.
Someone just got the exact same work as someone else, and they got it solved 2 secs apart from eachother.

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June 03, 2013, 11:41:22 PM
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18373   2013-06-03 22:57:34   0:00:02   16141   12   0.01845956   239570   25.23781000    95 confirmations left
18372   2013-06-03 22:57:32   1:18:06   13727369   9524   0.01714880   239570   25.23781000    95 confirmations left

Never seen that happen before. Oh, 2 second blocks are possible but pool has to be very luck for that to happen.


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June 04, 2013, 02:41:58 AM
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The second "block" will end up being invalid..
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June 04, 2013, 04:23:56 AM
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Someone just got the exact same work as someone else, and they got it solved 2 secs apart from eachother.
Not the same work, but a work that also resulted in a solution - the hashes are different:
The long one is 00000000000000687dc957f3ba6685aeb8f73dee7a48020caccc015115494fc8
and the 2sec one is 000000000000013590c203af0e0aac04c4cd10f1baaf98d44dcb0d67a9933b09

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