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Author Topic: [40+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 3928761 times)
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June 01, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
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Score reset!


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June 01, 2013, 01:19:29 AM
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Is the score supposed to reset part way through finding a block?

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June 01, 2013, 01:35:08 AM
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Estimated reward has dropped to about 0.5% of normal.


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June 01, 2013, 01:39:56 AM
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Estimated Reward: 0.00006771 BTC for 5 hrs of mining. Oh joy =/

EDIT: It is stepping up quite quickly now though. Doubled in 5 mins.

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June 01, 2013, 01:45:13 AM
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if this keeps up, i'm gonna start drinkin' again. Roll Eyes

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June 01, 2013, 01:48:13 AM
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Never seen pool luck for the month below 95% damn  Embarrassed Embarrassed

On a side note, the amount of people that have been mining here for more than a little while that dont know how the scoring system works at all continues to amaze me.
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June 01, 2013, 01:48:51 AM
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Is the score supposed to reset part way through finding a block?

Yes, this has been covered a couple of times. Score resets are performed periodically so no arithmetic overflow happens.
There were some comments around re-normalization versus reset, the first one being more correct while the second one easier to implement and quicker to perform.
Another approach to eliminate an arithmetic overflow is using a logarithmic scale, but that would also need changes to how rewards are currently calculated.

Check here for a detailed description of how the scoring used at this pool works (the reset/re-normalization is also mentioned): http://organofcorti.blogspot.hu/2012/04/41-slushs-pool.html

Some time ago there were indications Slush is planning to switch to DGM. See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39497.0 - the post also describes recommendations around eliminating the possibility of arithmetic overflows, in one prefers to read up on the topic.

Hope this helps,
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June 01, 2013, 01:49:34 AM
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Estimated Reward: 0.00006771 BTC for 5 hrs of mining. Oh joy =/

EDIT: It is stepping up quite quickly now though. Doubled in 5 mins.


Mine said 0.055 estimated not complaining but it will likely to recalculated.
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June 01, 2013, 01:51:39 AM
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Is the score supposed to reset part way through finding a block?

Yes, this has been covered a couple of times. Score resets are performed periodically so no arithmetic overflow happens.
There were some comments around re-normalization versus reset, the first one being more correct while the second one easier to implement and quicker to perform.
Another approach to eliminate an arithmetic overflow is using a logarithmic scale, but that would also need changes to how rewards are currently calculated.

Check here for a detailed description of how the scoring used at this pool works (the reset/re-normalization is also mentioned): http://organofcorti.blogspot.hu/2012/04/41-slushs-pool.html

Some time ago there were indications Slush is planning to switch to DGM. See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39497.0 - the post also describes recommendations around eliminating the possibility of arithmetic overflows, in one prefers to read up on the topic.

Hope this helps,
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Yep, it does - thanks!

I am still relatively new to this - only been mining for about 8 weeks, and what with working 6 days a week, haven't had much time to get to grips with the ins & outs.
Still learning, basically.

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June 01, 2013, 02:10:56 AM
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OMG LOL XIIT HAX, Why dont people read even the BASIC information which is printed at the pools front pages or at the news.
you can also use SEARCH. everything is explained atleast 50 times allready, yet I will recap:
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Is the score supposed to reset part way through finding a block?
YES, there is only finite numbers in integer, so this has to be done. it doesnt have too much effect on youre payout if the block is found tho, dont worry

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Getworks/s seem to be lower than yesterday, does that matter
NO, getwork is deprecated (obsolete, old, not used) protocol and this number only show amount of ppl still using it. It doesnt affect on pool because 98% is on stratum.

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my block reward if off by X, I submitted Y shares so I should receive Z BTC
, NO, you should not. because of the pool hopping cheat (try search, google yahoo etc), Slush's pool pays more from recent shares than from the older shares (10 minute old shares pays next to nothing).

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We should get more GH/s into the pool to get more BTC
NO, it doesnt matter individual reward is based on YOURE GH/s againt difficulty per XYZ period of time, (pools hasrate goes up, youre reward per block reduces but pool find more blocks if the difficulty stays the same. etc...)

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OMG, my reward per day has been halved even tho I doubled my hash speed
DARN, block finding is based on luck (even tho more GH/s makes more lottery tickers). You can check pool's luck from the stats page if youre that concernt.

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I cannot connect with guiminer
Use startum I dont even bother getting into details, in short use bfgminer/cgminer.

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Stratum is down, now I cannot mine
Well its the INTERNET, even tho services has great percentage of service, they have downtimes
register to bitminter/btcguild/50btc/whateverpool and set it as youre backup pool (bfgminer/cgminer does this with ease).

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Why block is invalid
Because someone else found it first (and before our pool got info from it), around 1,5% of blocks found actually turn out to be invalid. it happens.

Im sure theres plenty more "hard to understand" things I missed, google, search forums etc... Please dont clutter this thread with same questions over and over and over and over and over and over again.

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June 01, 2013, 02:12:51 AM
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Is the score supposed to reset part way through finding a block?

Yes, this has been covered a couple of times. Score resets are performed periodically so no arithmetic overflow happens.
There were some comments around re-normalization versus reset, the first one being more correct while the second one easier to implement and quicker to perform.
Another approach to eliminate an arithmetic overflow is using a logarithmic scale, but that would also need changes to how rewards are currently calculated.

Check here for a detailed description of how the scoring used at this pool works (the reset/re-normalization is also mentioned): http://organofcorti.blogspot.hu/2012/04/41-slushs-pool.html

Some time ago there were indications Slush is planning to switch to DGM. See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39497.0 - the post also describes recommendations around eliminating the possibility of arithmetic overflows, in one prefers to read up on the topic.

Hope this helps,
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Yep, it does - thanks!

I am still relatively new to this - only been mining for about 8 weeks, and what with working 6 days a week, haven't had much time to get to grips with the ins & outs.
Still learning, basically.

So am I...

It would be useful to be able to make info about reoccurring issues sticky / always on top. Currently, there is a massive volume of post only marginally related to pool issues, which makes finding info you are looking for rather demanding.
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June 01, 2013, 02:17:03 AM
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holy crappy luck ratman, 50 some percent wtf?? oh were oh where have my bit coins gone... Cry

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June 01, 2013, 02:19:33 AM
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Current round duration:   0:32:53

18309    2013-06-01 01:48:37    5:15:09    49659498    36712    0.00568052    238964    
18284    2013-05-30 09:23:24    5:14:27    48529423    38285    0.02085703    238658
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June 01, 2013, 02:26:12 AM
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Something fucked up. Yes yes I know its score based, not per share, but my miner has been mining constantly, no problems, I litter ally monitor every minute (especially when it takes 5 hours for a block, I'm eager to see when is the next block). But I got HALF of my regular reward on the last block.(also demonstrated by amount of of shares, even tho its score based...)

And according to the post over me also.

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June 01, 2013, 02:30:51 AM
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I got 1/4 my usual score Sad

18309    2013-06-01 01:48:37    5:15:09    49659498    3983    0.00045819    238964    25.05830000    92 confirmations left
18308    2013-05-31 20:33:28    1:42:52    16633401    1305    0.00198495    238930    25.00000000    58 confirmations left
18307    2013-05-31 18:50:36    0:18:57    3010041      235     0.00210342    238919    25.26863000    47 confirmations left

Of course, it may adjust upwards - I hope so.

I just think we have had a run of really bad luck recently - compounded by the run of really good luck, right before it, making it seem worse.

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June 01, 2013, 02:31:27 AM
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18309   2013-06-01 01:48:37   5:15:09   49659498   26769   0.0044838  238964   25.05830000    92 confirmations left
18308   2013-05-31 20:33:28   1:42:52   16633401   8622   0.01381825  238930   25.00000000    58 confirmations left

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June 01, 2013, 02:44:53 AM
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"I got a Rock."   Angry     heh, actually i got a 1/3 of my low side. Not complaining, I'll switch pools before I'll complain. Just scratching my head is all. "if it weren't for bad luck, we'd have no luck at all." Just observing is all.

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June 01, 2013, 02:48:17 AM
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I'm not complaining either, just also scratching my head too (I think a bit more hair came out when I did)

It all seems a little odd, and confusing to a noob like me.

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June 01, 2013, 02:56:38 AM
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I'm not complaining either, just also scratching my head too (I think a bit more hair came out when I did)

It all seems a little odd, and confusing to a noob like me.

No, I hear what you're saying, the rebellion is on.  Lets all go solo mine!  Smiley

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June 01, 2013, 02:58:12 AM
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Sigh, bad luck coupled with payouts .25 to .5 of normal. How's the song go? Should I stay or should I go now?
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