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May 24, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
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You need to read more of this thread to understand the scoring.  The scores are weighted towards the end of the round to stop this.  A hopper doing what you describe would get little or nothing from most rounds.

It doesn't stop it its usually fairly easy to tell when there are multiple hours left in a block.  You can come back in the last 30 minutes and get most of the reward.  I don't do so but use the longer blocks to mess around/tweak hardware.

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May 24, 2013, 02:08:33 PM
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its usually fairly easy to tell when there are multiple hours left in a block.

is it?

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May 24, 2013, 02:16:26 PM
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its usually fairly easy to tell when there are multiple hours left in a block.

is it?

If you take the assumption that since 3hours have passed then it will end soon. soon as in 3 hours later or in the case last week 8 hours later....   SARCASM.
 You have to get lucky and you will most likely lose more BTC than gain. unless you are doing 20gh/s+ then it doesnt much even matter just misdirected greed
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May 24, 2013, 02:24:24 PM
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its usually fairly easy to tell when there are multiple hours left in a block.

is it?

Watching the % completed.   With about 90-95% accuracy I believe I was only wrong once. 

- when your at 20-30 minutes and the % complete is less than the number of minutes
- when it takes 5+ minutes to count up .1 %

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May 24, 2013, 02:28:39 PM
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Nice tried, but.. no. Doesn't work that way.
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May 24, 2013, 02:30:20 PM
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Nice tried, but.. no. Doesn't work that way.


*usually* - Like I said only missed it once.  I'm usually only down less than 30 minutes for hardware tweaking so plenty of time to jump back in.

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May 24, 2013, 03:29:10 PM
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Nice tried, but.. no. Doesn't work that way.


*usually* - Like I said only missed it once.  I'm usually only down less than 30 minutes for hardware tweaking so plenty of time to jump back in.

ok we at 3+ hours 92%+ move them all in! cuz it will 100% end between now and the next 8 hours
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May 24, 2013, 03:55:38 PM
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Nice tried, but.. no. Doesn't work that way.


*usually* - Like I said only missed it once.  I'm usually only down less than 30 minutes for hardware tweaking so plenty of time to jump back in.

ok we at 3+ hours 92%+ move them all in! cuz it will 100% end between now and the next 8 hours
100% will never happen...
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May 24, 2013, 03:58:16 PM
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There is a difference in knowing *when* something will end and just knowing it has a long ways to go.  BTW if you get to 99.xx % and it takes 5 or so minutes to go up .1% your screwed.  It was 99.xx% for like 5 hours on that 11 hour block lol.

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May 24, 2013, 04:14:30 PM
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100% will never happen...
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So close though!!!  I am just being sarcastic.

 I rather get the correct payment for block 237575 and also paid for block 237574. and waiting. tap tap tap

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Gotta love the 400+gh/s increase near the "end" of these long rounds. like I said the big boy greed
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May 24, 2013, 04:55:47 PM
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So close though!!!  I am just being sarcastic.

 I rather get the correct payment for block 237575 and also paid for block 237574. and waiting. tap tap tap

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Gotta love the 400+gh/s increase near the "end" of these long rounds. like I said the big boy greed
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yeah, on a string of 4+ hour blocks, pool hash rate is around 9.2 TH/s, I've seen it drop to the 8s a couple of times in the past month, aside from when the ddos stuff was happening. String up some single digit or 2 digit minute blocks back to back and what do you know? Our pool hashing rate is 10.6 TH/s
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May 24, 2013, 05:07:43 PM
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Double quickies! Hope you got your shares in time.

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May 24, 2013, 05:13:15 PM
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I wish I could improve my connection to pool somehow. On short-medium rounds I get adequate rewards, but on very very short ones, which should give that most "saisfactory feeling" it usually sucks for me. (18191     0:00:47    106938    2    0.00045790 = only 2 shares instead of 6-9).

In all other cases, and especially long rounds -  my speed / pool speed *25 reward seems fine to me.

Also - does that hopping thing still exist? Or it's a problem of the past?

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May 24, 2013, 05:22:59 PM
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I wish I could improve my connection to pool somehow. On short-medium rounds I get adequate rewards, but on very very short ones, which should give that most "saisfactory feeling" it usually sucks for me. (18191     0:00:47    106938    2    0.00045790 = only 2 shares instead of 6-9).

In all other cases, and especially long rounds -  my speed / pool speed *25 reward seems fine to me.

Also - does that hopping thing still exist? Or it's a problem of the past?
Pool hopping exists, but it's a gamble on slush. You would have to be trying to predict how much longer the block will take and get yourself in long enough before the end to get a sufficiently high score, and you would need to be operating under the assumption that whichever pool you hop from isn't going to have a short block just as you hopped out or you just jumped away from a nice short block. I'm content staying in one place, letting my pc mine away whenever I'm not playing games, although I'm off all day today and all these short blocks are making me not want to start up a game lol
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May 24, 2013, 05:53:11 PM
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I am surprised you still get a chance to play games lol. When I discovered Mining my gaming days seemed to of come to an end, fuck , I bought a 7970 and have only played 1 frickin' game lol, cs:go, and that was to check that I hadn't fucked my card! haha. I needs me bitcoins!!

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May 24, 2013, 06:25:22 PM
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Well, like I said a couple pages ago. I did buy this 7970 with bitcoin mining in mind, but at the end of the day, I'm not doing it to try to make money off of it, the card cost too much for that. I'm doing it because it's a curiosity, and the primary purpose of my machine is to max out all the games I play.
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May 24, 2013, 07:25:56 PM
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Slush,
one of the stratum servers seems to have some sort of connection problems with database. Even tho my miner is sending hashes, which are accepted allright, workers "Last share at" increases upto around 15 minutes. then (I presume the connection gets restored) all the sudden "Last share at" decreases back to zero. Refreshing web pages shows "Last share at" going 15->13->9->7->3->0 in less than a minute.

If you use cgminer you can specify failover pools you can do api2.bitcoin,cz, stratum.bitcion,cz, stratum2.bitcoin.cz, etc all at the same time.  This seemed to have stopped these for me.

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I had to manually switch to stratum2, and it only happened to one of the workers. (automatic "backup" on another startum server isnt working, because work is being delivered from/to miner)
It used to happen to different worker (and i had all my workers on stratum.bitcoin.cz), but I have restarted all my workers ever since. so its bout luck if your miner lands on that specific stratum.
If youre really lucky you can get nice block reward as you submit 15 minutes of work in less than a minute Wink
but usually this resolves in around 15 minutes.

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May 24, 2013, 07:55:19 PM
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I am surprised you still get a chance to play games lol. When I discovered Mining my gaming days seemed to of come to an end, fuck , I bought a 7970 and have only played 1 frickin' game lol, cs:go, and that was to check that I hadn't fucked my card! haha. I needs me bitcoins!!

LOL Im glad Im not the only one who did that. The one good thing is playing WoW isnt really affected by mining much I get around 600Mhash while in WoW. Seems WoW is more dependent on processor for some odd reason, probably old code mixed with new, etc etc.
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May 24, 2013, 07:57:18 PM
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Pool hopping exists, but it's a gamble on slush. You would have to be trying to predict how much longer the block will take and get yourself in long enough before the end to get a sufficiently high score, and you would need to be operating under the assumption that whichever pool you hop from isn't going to have a short block just as you hopped out or you just jumped away from a nice short block. I'm content staying in one place, letting my pc mine away whenever I'm not playing games, although I'm off all day today and all these short blocks are making me not want to start up a game lol

Oddly I was on another pool for about 2 days.  There was a lucky day over there yet I still couldn't make what I get here.

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May 24, 2013, 08:10:02 PM
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I had to manually switch to stratum2, and it only happened to one of the workers. (automatic "backup" on another startum server isnt working, because work is being delivered from/to miner)....
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One of the reasons I finally made a forum account was to address this that keeps popping up...
There is absolutely no difference between using stratum/stratum2/stratum3 they all round robin to the same IP's.
The only possible thing changing it could do is force your dns to round robin to another of the ip's, if it isnt already in your dns cache otherwise it does nothing.
You can put one of these IP's directly in of which I have done due to noticing 2 ip's sometimes not being able to connect in.

they all resolve to a random one of these

Name:    stratum.bitcoin.cz stratum2.bitcoin.cz stratum3.bitcoin.cz
Addresses:  54.225.116.174
          54.225.117.74
          54.225.116.40
          54.215.3.101
          54.215.3.102
          54.225.116.221
          54.225.68.97
          54.215.3.103
          54.215.3.100
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