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May 22, 2013, 02:52:51 AM
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All you need is an active Namecoin wallet listed on your account page, and you will be credited with namecoins as-and-when they are found by the 2% still running Getwork.
I am 100% sure this is how it works, as both my workers are on Stratum, and I still get Namecoins credited to me when they are found.

If you don't have a Namecoin wallet listed, then you aren't credited any Namecoins. Simple as.

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May 22, 2013, 02:53:36 AM
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you have to have the namecoin miner running with your cgminer or other software for it to register namecoins for you. been running it for a little over 3 weeks and have 0.00407408 namecoins
False. Your namecoin miner does nothing in slush's pool. I've been mining for about the same amount of time and I have .5 NMC. Current NMC round is 1 day, 19:07:35. Like I said, it's getwork only and using stratum means you are not participating in the mining of a NMC block. And paying the 10% fee to use getwork is more loss than you will ever gain via namecoin.
ok then I must be hallucinating and the bitcoins that are registered in my name aren't real. currently mining with stratum not get work. very currious. sooo you saying that i'm lying is ok but it hasn't been that long maybe gremlins are eating your namecoins. last namecoin round ended last night again for your reading pleasure you will see the data from the stats page.
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If you are mining on stratum, then your miner specifically will not be contributing to a namecoin block. Since the pool is almost entirely moved over to stratum, namecoins are generated very infrequently. However, anyone with a namecoin address associated with their account will get paid namecoins based on their score in the next bitcoin block that is found. When namecoins are mined by a getwork user, the payout is distributed by bitcoin round score to all miners with a namecoin address, not just those on getwork. Hope that was clearer.

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May 22, 2013, 03:05:04 AM
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you have to have the namecoin miner running with your cgminer or other software for it to register namecoins for you. been running it for a little over 3 weeks and have 0.00407408 namecoins
False. Your namecoin miner does nothing in slush's pool. I've been mining for about the same amount of time and I have .5 NMC. Current NMC round is 1 day, 19:07:35. Like I said, it's getwork only and using stratum means you are not participating in the mining of a NMC block. And paying the 10% fee to use getwork is more loss than you will ever gain via namecoin.
ok then I must be hallucinating and the bitcoins that are registered in my name aren't real. currently mining with stratum not get work. very currious. sooo you saying that i'm lying is ok but it hasn't been that long maybe gremlins are eating your namecoins. last namecoin round ended last night again for your reading pleasure you will see the data from the stats page.
18116    2013-05-20 09:43:31    3:09:59    23963018    95    0.00012246    0.00045825    237043    25.22500001    confirmed


If you are mining on stratum, then your miner specifically will not be contributing to a namecoin block. Since the pool is almost entirely moved over to stratum, namecoins are generated very infrequently. However, anyone with a namecoin address associated with their account will get paid namecoins based on their score in the next bitcoin block that is found. When namecoins are mined by a getwork user, the payout is distributed by bitcoin round score to all miners with a namecoin address, not just those on getwork. Hope that was clearer.
makes sense, so what do you do with the darned things anyways and can you sell partial coins like you can bit, maybe keep some getworks running just to get the namecoin's

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May 22, 2013, 03:06:47 AM
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I sell mine on https://btc-e.com/ for BTC.

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May 22, 2013, 03:07:20 AM
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makes sense, so what do you do with the darned things anyways and can you sell partial coins like you can bit, maybe keep some getworks running just to get the namecoin's

You can trade them on the exchanges and also use them to buy domain names.

It's really not worth running a miner on getwork just to get the NMC.

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May 22, 2013, 03:08:55 AM
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can someone explain to me (yes I know it took 4 pages to answer my last question) why I recieved nothing the last block, ran my miner the entire time and it lasted like 2 hours, not sure what happened, I had almost 75 shares towards the end then they just went poof. Shocked

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May 22, 2013, 03:12:17 AM
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if the block is still going through the 100 confirmations, the volume you receive (should) correct its self. Mine said none, at first, then after a couple of confirmations, reset its self to 0.003BTC

Give it time. If it fails to come back at the end of the confirmations, post again about it, and Slush will probably look into it.

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May 22, 2013, 03:15:22 AM
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if the block is still going through the 100 confirmations, the volume you receive (should) correct its self. Mine said none, at first, then after a couple of confirmations, reset its self to 0.003BTC

Give it time. If it fails to come back at the end of the confirmations, post again about it, and Slush will probably look into it.

yup just happened, thats why i asked nice like. wow that was a short answer.lol

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May 22, 2013, 03:17:23 AM
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In case you missed the update on the pool webpage:

"21.05.2013
Bug in bitcoind caused many invalid blocks generated in recent hours. Thanks to cooperation with bitcoin developers, a bugfix has been deployed. Pool is now back in normal operation."

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May 22, 2013, 03:20:47 AM
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I noticed every once in a while (like the last block) there will be almost 10BTC worth of transfer fees! I think it's awesome but does anyone know why that happens? a typo when someone did a transfer? or are people just being very nice to miners Tongue
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May 22, 2013, 03:26:37 AM
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I noticed every once in a while (like the last block) there will be almost 10BTC worth of transfer fees! I think it's awesome but does anyone know why that happens? a typo when someone did a transfer? or are people just being very nice to miners Tongue

Just noticed this myself. Nice  Smiley

18141   2013-05-22 02:50:08   2:18:08   17606119   1464   0.00309898   none   237286   34.36614106    95 confirmations left

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May 22, 2013, 03:35:23 AM
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I was lucky with that fat one, managed to squeeze 124 shares in towards the end after noticing my pc was asleep when getting up for work! 0.0028, that's more than I get for normal rounds haha, could of been a few pence more had it been on though Tongue

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May 22, 2013, 03:42:48 AM
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I was lucky with that fat one, managed to squeeze 124 shares in towards the end after noticing my pc was asleep when getting up for work! 0.0028, that's more than I get for normal rounds haha, could of been a few pence more had it been on though Tongue


haha I know I only got partial in that round, but still had more and I was like WHAAAT if that block gets orphaned I am going to be pissed
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May 22, 2013, 04:36:38 AM
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So does a GPU miner like myself gain anything by using a higher user difficulty in Slush's pool?

I am just trying to be realistic about things.  Trust me, it's best that way.
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May 22, 2013, 04:42:42 AM
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So does a GPU miner like myself gain anything by using a higher user difficulty in Slush's pool?
No, not that I know of. I've tried it and all you get is fewer shares/min. The adjustable difficulty is really for miners of FPGA and ASIC because those high-throughput devices would clog the server. By setting a higher difficulty, the machine deals with fewer shares but they are worth n*1 shares in slush's stats.

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May 22, 2013, 06:10:26 AM
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I noticed every once in a while (like the last block) there will be almost 10BTC worth of transfer fees! I think it's awesome but does anyone know why that happens? a typo when someone did a transfer? or are people just being very nice to miners Tongue

Hey, I noticed this a few times, and wondered myself. So I went on blockchain.info and looked at some of the transactions. You can see some Tx look like they have been run through a poor mixing job like this:
 


So here we see Wallet 15r1c move 590 BTC to a couple other wallets, incurring 1.014 BTC Tx fee, which then manage to get the coin to Wallet 1KNCQ who gives it back to 15r1c all in the same second, which means they all get rolled up in the same block, incurring a total of 1.39454 BTC worth of Tx Fees. And so on and so forth.... This is but an example of why some blocks have HUGE Tx Fees.

You go around looking at some of these wallets, and you can see some pretty amazing amounts of coin doing neat tricks!

There's lot's of Tx mixers out there, but these blokes prolly used a horse like this one


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May 22, 2013, 06:20:32 AM
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How do you know those are transfer fees and not just change addresses?
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May 22, 2013, 06:22:59 AM
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So here we see Wallet 15r1c move 590 BTC to a couple other wallets, incurring 1.014 BTC Tx fee, which then manage to get the coin to Wallet 1KNCQ who gives it back to 15r1c all in the same second, which means they all get rolled up in the same block, incurring a total of 1.39454 BTC worth of Tx Fees. And so on and so forth.... This is but an example of why some blocks have HUGE Tx Fees.

You go around looking at some of these wallets, and you can see some pretty amazing amounts of coin doing neat tricks!

Where are you finding 1.014 TX fees?  That looks like a normal wallet sending coins.  When you send coins, the remainder goes to a change address.  What you were doing was basically just following the change addresses.  The fees on each TX were 0.0005, which is the standard TX fee for coins without high priority (low confirmation count).



I've detected problems in bitcoind 0.8.1 where high number of transactions in memory pool caused 100% CPU load on the pool server. Because of this, submitting of new blocks were delayed for tens of seconds and caused high invalid rate.

Sipa (the bitcoin developer) implemented fix for this problem (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2677) which I just tested and implemented to the pool server. I'm watching the pool closely, but the CPU load dropped from 100% back to 2-3%, so everything looks fine so far...

Thank you for posting a link to that patch slush.  I had been seeing a lot of similar issues lately (though I wasn't getting the orphan rates, since my pool servers stop accepting/submitting shares when they already see a new block, even if no work has been provided yet).  Was using some workarounds the p2pool guys have used, but it still required a lot of monitoring and bitcoind restarts.

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May 22, 2013, 06:29:11 AM
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How do you know those are transfer fees and not just change addresses?

Well how do you explain 34 BTC blocks? This was my completely noob rudimentary attempt...  Tongue

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May 22, 2013, 08:25:45 AM
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Is this really correct or a bug?
https://blockchain.info/blocks/ASICMiner

Has AsicMiner found all recent blocks all over the pools? Scary stuff.
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