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Author Topic: [2+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 4323879 times)
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May 20, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
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Lucko is a moronic douchenozzle - I've reported it for double posting and for being an anus in general...  Grin

There's a wee linky under it's name 'ignore' - use it! I do!

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May 20, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
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Sorry people, I broke my own rule of not quoting this Lucko guy - every time he's quoted he posts 5 more crap posts.

The guy doesn't even mine here. Just trolls.

I wont do it again...
Well last share time is 3 days, 20 hours from my smallest miner so yes I did stop but I still have Slush in backup pool on it. And I still looking when it is going to be fix so I relay don't know why I shouldn't be hire. Can you please explained? If you would be nice to someone with who you disagree even when you agree there wouldn't be that many posts from me helping anyone who you attack just because they reported a problem.

And if you change the post and add: "The guy doesn't even mine here. Just trolls." use EDIT
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May 20, 2013, 06:51:39 PM
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Like I said before - the bitching levels after his hack went to new highs - I don't blame him for not coming on here to deal with the constant moaning from people who constantly fail to read even the very post before them sometimes. The pattern usually goes like this:

Hey whats up with block xxx - I mined for 6 hours and it's saying nil points...
And then
Ah's it seems to have corrected itself...
And then
Yeah but there's still something wrong...
And then
Where is Slush
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BFL get slagged or something like that, then - what's up with block xxx

It's a pain because true issues are being buried in the barrage of posters like Lucko - you can't see the wood for the trees.
Yes I'm the real problem yes. I did it. I admit. I broke stratum so it doesn't record all shares. I made all invalid blocks and I made all blocks miscalculations and errors resetting the score. You can lie to your self but if you look at hashrate 10% of the power already agree with me to the level that they moved... You might have something to do with it as well as you are such nice guy to anyone saying there is a problem.

EDIT: If Slush would monitor the pool as you say he would fix the problems. He is not incompetent. Unless you are saying he needs 20+ days to fix it? O I forgot there is noting to fix even when you say there is...

Keep calm, guys. As far as I can see, the Problem is clear:

1. Very bad pool luck
2. (Statiscly) far too many invalid blocks
3. One or more miscalculated rewards
4. No response from Slush

And ist not the fact that can expect Slush to comment each block calculation. It's about us having no evidence, that the pool is (properly) administred at all. Mining is all about money (electricity costs over here in Germany are tremendous high [about .30$/kWh]) and mining in a pool is all about trust.

Having no reply at all from Slush makes me (and obviously others too) having less trust in this pool. So any kind of reply from Slush would be very helpful for all of us, right?
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May 20, 2013, 07:07:01 PM
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And you have a next invalid block...

18125   2013-05-20 18:48:11   0:47:00   6167846   237091   25.16012000    98 confirmations left

I'm sorry for 99,9% of you...

EDIT: Could be also blockchan problem since I don't think this is correct. This is last block reported on blockchan is 88 not 91... There is still hope...
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May 20, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
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Honestly, this forum is a horrible way to address these problems.  The first FIRST thing I would do to mitigate these issues is a more extensive FAQ that addresses common issues.  Trying to find an answer in 400 pages of crazy is difficult at best.  The second thing would be to create a forum dedicated to Slush's pool.  Quick, out of the box forum software with multiple threads.  That way different topics can have different threads.  This would be great, but even if this isn't feasible there could be a set of "official" threads here instead of just one.

Everyone who's been monitoring this thread gets upset when someone comes in asking questions that have been answered 30 times already, but there are over 400 pages of stuff to go through.  It's daunting.
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May 20, 2013, 07:38:08 PM
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After a few days of looking over vast amounts of information i have discovered a solution to the "problems" in slush's pool........

we need more positive vibes.
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May 20, 2013, 11:41:37 PM
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I <3 Slush's pool, and want to have his babies.

That kind of thing?

Personally, I will always mine here, and when my ASICs arrive, I will mine a lot more, here!
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May 21, 2013, 12:06:27 AM
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babies might be a bit much, but thats the spirit.  Smiley
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May 21, 2013, 12:15:26 AM
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After a few days of looking over vast amounts of information i have discovered a solution to the "problems" in slush's pool........

we need more positive vibes.

+1

Relax and go with the flow, take the ups with the downs.

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May 21, 2013, 12:29:49 AM
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18100
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18121
18128

We are now the unhappy recipients of 4 invalid blocks in last 24 hrs Angry

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May 21, 2013, 12:34:25 AM
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18100
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18121
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We are now the unhappy recipients of 4 invalid blocks in last 24 hrs Angry

Nothing to see here.  Working as designed.  If there was a problem Slush would already be fixing it.  Rah! Rah! Rah!  Go Slush go! And so forth...

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May 21, 2013, 01:13:18 AM
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So the pool has some good luck but it's negated because of invalid blocks lol sucks
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May 21, 2013, 06:29:21 AM
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For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) and that's despite the horrible luck to get 3 orphaned blocks in one day.

Come on luck - come to us...

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May 21, 2013, 06:34:23 AM
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For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) and that's despite the horrible luck to get 3 orphaned blocks in one day.

Come on luck - come to us...
Yes but this is luck and it will not work in long run...
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May 21, 2013, 06:49:54 AM
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For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) [ ... ]

No, similar payout per Mhps. More per block, but fewer blocks.

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May 21, 2013, 07:03:04 AM
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For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) [ ... ]

No, similar payout per Mhps. More per block, but fewer blocks.

Hmmm how is that?
15-1 = 17-3 or someone changed the math laws while i sleep?
We have the same number of valid blocks for ~75% hashrate

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May 21, 2013, 07:11:54 AM
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For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) [ ... ]

No, similar payout per Mhps. More per block, but fewer blocks.

Hmmm how is that?
15-1 = 17-3 or someone changed the math laws while i sleep?
We have the same number of valid blocks for ~75% hashrate

For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?

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May 21, 2013, 07:15:20 AM
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For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) [ ... ]

No, similar payout per Mhps. More per block, but fewer blocks.

Hmmm how is that?
15-1 = 17-3 or someone changed the math laws while i sleep?
We have the same number of valid blocks for ~75% hashrate
You are not counting the luck in. If you would you get the same.
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May 21, 2013, 07:25:26 AM
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For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?
And the actual payout depend on the actual (luck) number of blocks found if the pool is not PPS. What you say is perfectly valid for PPS, but Slush is not PPS.
For pool mining (and not PPS) it is blocks found for the day * the miner's part from the total pool hashrate.
What i mean is that with these numbers, each miner on Slush got more than if they were on Bitminter

EDIT: @Lucko "Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days):   89%, 87%, 98%" even with such a bad luck

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May 21, 2013, 07:49:39 AM
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For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?
And the actual payout depend on the actual (luck) number of blocks found if the pool is not PPS. What you say is perfectly valid for PPS, but Slush is not PPS.
For pool mining (and not PPS) it is blocks found for the day * the miner's part from the total pool hashrate.
What i mean is that with these numbers, each miner on Slush got more than if they were on Bitminter

EDIT: @Lucko "Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days):   89%, 87%, 98%" even with such a bad luck

Sorry, I misunderstood. There's a misconception that a higher hashrate means that miners get paid less, and I thought you were referring to that.

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