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Author Topic: [40+ PH] SlushPool (slushpool.com); World's First Mining Pool  (Read 3853934 times)
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June 01, 2013, 04:51:29 AM
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Does discriminating against mining certain low tx-fee transfers have a negative pool effect on the rate the miner/pool solves blocks?
god damn, good thing I made put a parentheses on that one huh?

What it meant is if things go wrong on a day with 50% pool luck and 1 bad payment people will be more upset than on a day with 150% pool luck and 1 bad payment.

Eck, would you even have pool hopped today if despite the error the pool was at 150%? I would bet no.


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I have no idea what you're getting at. My question wasn't directed at anyone specific, just a valid question seeking an answer(as well as being completely unrelated to the pool luck dip in the last few days).
lol, my bad, I reread and completely misunderstood that lol. Sorry
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June 01, 2013, 06:17:49 AM
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Somebody please tell me that the Graphs page on the site is broke. I'm dieing here. heh. the increase in hashing power the pool has seen has pretty much maintained the number of blocks that the pool has been getting each day. but according to the graph i'm getting half the btcs i was 5 days ago. i would expect this if the hashing power had doubled, but not for about a 10% rise. hmmm. where's Lucko when i need him? heheheh.
Sleeping, working... If this was not a joke and you would really like my input here it is. The reword has also a luck factor. Last seven days the luck was 83%. So this is where 17% of your reword has gone. Then it was a difficulty increase by 16%(not complicity sure), so you get even less. 0,83*0,84=0,6972. So that explain 30% less. There were also some lost blocks so that probably adds some percentage(I know that one day they reduce reword by 10%)... And calculation error or two Smiley and you are there. The whole hashrate of the pool is not an issue. Even if it would 10x more the reword for a day, week, year would still be the same... Only number of block would change and amount you get per block. The only think you are looking at are luck, difficulty and invalids (if there are no errors).
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June 01, 2013, 09:24:33 AM
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I got 2.5 x normal reward fot 18309. (Not bragging, just pointing out that it looks to me, the 'missing' coins go to a few lucky pool miners and not to slush).

I've had plenty of rounds where I have been the one who was 'missing' coins.

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June 01, 2013, 09:36:45 AM
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I got 2.5 x normal reward fot 18309. (Not bragging, just pointing out that it looks to me, the 'missing' coins go to a few lucky pool miners and not to slush).

I've had plenty of rounds where I have been the one who was 'missing' coins.
That was never the question. When reset accusers some workers don't get reseted. I guess it has something to do with time the share is submitted and calculated during reset... And since worker has hi score you get more on that round. Depends how long from reset round ends...
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June 01, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
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I got 2.5 x normal reward fot 18309. (Not bragging, just pointing out that it looks to me, the 'missing' coins go to a few lucky pool miners and not to slush).

I've had plenty of rounds where I have been the one who was 'missing' coins.
That was never the question. When reset accusers some workers don't get reseted. I guess it has something to do with time the share is submitted and calculated during reset... And since worker has hi score you get more on that round. Depends how long from reset round ends...

I guess so, but there's still 30 confirmations to go. I've seen these things correct themselves at the last minute. If slush pops on and sees it he will recalcuate it no doubt.

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June 01, 2013, 09:48:06 AM
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My "personal luck" for 7 days is at 78% atm (7 days moving avg from graphs / estimated reward from mining profitability calculator).
pools 7 day is at 84% atm. so considering stales, downtimes (adding/cleaning fans, changed lan wires to wireless usb, etc)  and other anomalies, I think the pools is working as it should (atleast for me).
I also had my share of missing/big payouts from certain blocks, but in 7 days it seems to even out quite nicely.

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June 01, 2013, 10:38:01 AM
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best way to mitigate variance / bad luck is to spread you hasspeed across multiple pools at once. like 3-4 pools at least

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June 01, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
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18309    2013-06-01 01:48:37    5:15:09    49659498    4669    0.00051640    238964    25.05830000    24 confirmations left   Huh

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June 01, 2013, 10:43:28 AM
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best way to mitigate variance / bad luck is to spread you hasspeed across multiple pools at once. like 3-4 pools at least
And that's exactly what i am doing and have suggested several pages ago.

EDIT: I like the number 3, so this was a natural choice for me.

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June 01, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
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18309    2013-06-01 01:48:37    5:15:09    49659498    4669    0.00051640    238964    25.05830000    24 confirmations left   Huh
Calculation error(read above)... It will probably not fix itself automatically so only Slush can fix it now.
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June 01, 2013, 12:02:03 PM
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18309    2013-06-01 01:48:37    5:15:09    49659498    4669    0.00051640    238964    25.05830000    24 confirmations left   Huh
Calculation error(read above)... It will probably not fix itself automatically so only Slush can fix it now.

And he is busy, I presume... He is dealing with sudden inspection from Spanish Inquisition!!!  Grin

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June 01, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
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Slush,

block 18309 has 10 confirmations left an no action taken so far. While this is not catastrophical at all, it is unclear if the notification made it's way to you or not.
Please let us know your preferred way how such issues should be escalated to you in the future. Shall we:

 * post to this topic once and wait patiently for the block to get fixed
 * post multiple times / make more noise (I do not think this is ok)
 * send a PM on this forum
 * send a mail
 * something else (please specify)

Note that I am not complaining, but just looking for a way to ensure proper communication regarding similar issues in the future.

Cheers,
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June 01, 2013, 01:32:23 PM
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18321   2013-06-01 13:18:14   1:35:10   14691906   33414   0.00004932   239063   25.20347868    99 confirmations left

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June 01, 2013, 01:34:22 PM
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Well you were lucky Tongue

18321   2013-06-01 13:18:14   1:35:10   14691906   452   0.00000081   239063   25.20347868    99 confirmations left
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June 01, 2013, 01:39:25 PM
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Well you were lucky Tongue

18321   2013-06-01 13:18:14   1:35:10   14691906   452   0.00000081   239063   25.20347868    99 confirmations left

it should be 0.1 so I don't feel myself too lucky Cheesy
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June 01, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
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18321    2013-06-01 13:18:14    1:35:10    14691906    832    0.00000147    239063    25.20347868
Same here also very big variance in the reward ...One week ago all my reward was 0.0015-0.0020 now 0.0010-0.0015 ...
18320    2013-06-01 11:43:04    0:09:52    1544066    97    0.00155684    239053    25.00150000    89 confirmations left
18319    2013-06-01 11:33:12    0:04:08    627852    29    0.00102093    239051    25.11800000    87 confirmations left
18318    2013-06-01 11:29:04    1:58:52    18263762    953    0.00103078    239049    25.09950000    85 confirmations left
18317    2013-06-01 09:30:12    0:01:59    310597    17    0.00135649    239033    25.04160000    69 confirmations left
18316    2013-06-01 09:28:13    0:34:49    5394754    276    0.00132236    239032    25.06220000    68 confirmations left
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June 01, 2013, 01:42:40 PM
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this I can understand
18318   2013-06-01 11:29:04   1:58:52   18263762   5099   0.00459765   239049   25.09950000
normal being
18312   2013-06-01 07:01:02   2:09:08   19734291   5473   0.00685987   239012   25.46190000
18311   2013-06-01 04:51:54   2:10:19   20307448   5582   0.00724408   238993   25.26838085
that is because slush has some IP's that suddenly dont work over 4+ minutes I observed that on a block before this and changed 2 of my miners round robin approach to direct IPs. Slush is under the assumption that when one of the IPs wont resolve due to maybe a server overloaded that the miner will round robin to the next IP. but that is not how round robin and DNS works. a client looks up the resolution and takes the IP off the top, it will NOT "TEST" if that IP is working and choose another....

however this is Slush's formula failing due to a bug, as I did not have any connection issues near the end of this block nor did most everyone else
18309   2013-06-01 01:48:37   5:15:09   49659498   13369   0.00189029   238964   25.05830000

along with this one which I assume will be fixed by Slush
18321   2013-06-01 13:18:14   1:35:10   14691906   4191   0.00000669   239063   25.20347868
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June 01, 2013, 01:45:22 PM
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Well you were lucky Tongue

18321   2013-06-01 13:18:14   1:35:10   14691906   452   0.00000081   239063   25.20347868    99 confirmations left

it should be 0.1 so I don't feel myself too lucky Cheesy


how would u get .1 with only 452 shares in? or do u mean 0.00000100
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June 01, 2013, 01:46:45 PM
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18321    2013-06-01 13:18:14    1:35:10    14691906    832    0.00000147    239063    25.20347868
Same here also very big variance in the reward ...One week ago all my reward was 0.0015-0.0020 now 0.0010-0.0015 ...
18320    2013-06-01 11:43:04    0:09:52    1544066    97    0.00155684    239053    25.00150000    89 confirmations left
18319    2013-06-01 11:33:12    0:04:08    627852    29    0.00102093    239051    25.11800000    87 confirmations left
18318    2013-06-01 11:29:04    1:58:52    18263762    953    0.00103078    239049    25.09950000    85 confirmations left
18317    2013-06-01 09:30:12    0:01:59    310597    17    0.00135649    239033    25.04160000    69 confirmations left
18316    2013-06-01 09:28:13    0:34:49    5394754    276    0.00132236    239032    25.06220000    68 confirmations left

The payouts got smaller when the pool went from 10544.458 Ghash/s to 11544.458 Ghash/s last week
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June 01, 2013, 01:47:28 PM
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Same here also very big variance in the reward ...One week ago all my reward was 0.0015-0.0020 now 0.0010-0.0015 ...


exactly 1 week ago the difficulty changed from 11,187,257 to 12,153,412 too

If there aren't any issues I have +-0.01-0.015 variance.
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