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May 30, 2013, 06:21:42 AM
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OK I have looked at numbers.
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And then there are smaller then 14% differences... Complicity normal with your speed and you did gain with them so total difference is only 0,001454909 in your loss(1 good block). So again total normal with one invalid if invalid is normal. But it is some time since I saw last complaint that block didn't fix itself. It was 18264 but since it is invalid that doesn't count...

And now answer the question honestly. At least to yourself. Was this work worth 0,001454909 btc??? Even if you have a ready spreadsheet to calc this?
My bet is - you were loosing money while calculating this. And while you did that, I was at the field flying paraglider. And my miner was mining. I did not loose anything. I gained, then gained indistinguishably little less, then gained again.
Or should I go like " Oh! Slush, you bastard, give me my money back!!! Your pool has stolen $0,002 from me today!!!! AAAA!!!1111" And so on for 300 pages... Really?


I will not.
With yours speed no way. Even in a year you haven't lost anything worth talking about if every day is like that... But since I pushed you into publishing scores it is fair that I also did the work.
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May 30, 2013, 06:56:20 AM
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He did his best up until now and we trusted him! Now he is unable to take much care for the pool, because of more important issues - personal/family.
'Rats leave the sinking ship first' - if you are a rat, then leave. The rest of us (sailors) should trust our captain and keep the ship cut through the waves during storms ... at the end we may just not have rats on board Smiley

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May 30, 2013, 07:01:19 AM
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I think you bring bad luck anyway.... with all your negative bullshit.

Not how luck works. Except for DrG who is apparently a bad luck lightning rod, or a bad luck strange attractor. Or something.


Thanks for those kind words.

Seriously was mining on BTCGuild for more or less the last 2 months.  This past week I was trying out 50BTC and it's PPS system which worked fine for a day and then I think I broke it.  I lost about 12 hours of earnings (easily calculated on PPS).  Seems like the pool was fine until I arrived (although they claim it was their host's server maintenance).

I moved back to BTCGuild (conveniently missing the lovely 1.6x earnings week) and have made 0.6x times earnings for the past 3 days (PPLNS)  Angry

Again taking offers from people who want to "bomb" other luck based pools.  I think my presence on BTCGuild has messed with OoC's charts for future difficulty calculations since I was on BTCGuild which had 40% of the hashrate...

Wonder if I could infiltrate ASICMiner...  Shocked

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May 30, 2013, 07:31:53 AM
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hi all,

i was on a trip for some weeks and the first thing i've done was to restart my mining pc. now after the restart the gui miner will not work on slushs pool. every time i start the miner the message appears:
api2.bitcoin.cz:8332....no json object could be decoded. failed to subscribe.io erros - 1, tolerance 2.

my miner was working for the last weeks without an interuption on an ati 7870/win7-300 mhash.

maybe someone have an idea? i'm at work and have no time to read the hole postings since the last 3 weeks.

kind regards, tea

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it seems that the solution was to update my bitcoin client to the newest version 0.8.2  Wink
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May 30, 2013, 07:57:42 AM
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hi all,

i was on a trip for some weeks and the first thing i've done was to restart my mining pc. now after the restart the gui miner will not work on slushs pool. every time i start the miner the message appears:
api2.bitcoin.cz:8332....no json object could be decoded. failed to subscribe.io erros - 1, tolerance 2.

my miner was working for the last weeks without an interuption on an ati 7870/win7-300 mhash.

maybe someone have an idea? i'm at work and have no time to read the hole postings since the last 3 weeks.

kind regards, tea

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it seems that the solution was to update my bitcoin client to the newest version 0.8.2  Wink

port 8332 is for getwork (which is problematic, gets a 10% "penalty" fee, etc, and Slush is trying to get rid of anyways).

Try the proxy - https://mining.bitcoin.cz/mining-proxy-howto
I've been using it for quite a while and it's been very stable. I have all of my miners go through the proxy now.

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May 30, 2013, 07:58:38 AM
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hi all,

i was on a trip for some weeks and the first thing i've done was to restart my mining pc. now after the restart the gui miner will not work on slushs pool. every time i start the miner the message appears:
api2.bitcoin.cz:8332....no json object could be decoded. failed to subscribe.io erros - 1, tolerance 2.

my miner was working for the last weeks without an interuption on an ati 7870/win7-300 mhash.

maybe someone have an idea? i'm at work and have no time to read the hole postings since the last 3 weeks.

kind regards, tea

SOLVED

it seems that the solution was to update my bitcoin client to the newest version 0.8.2  Wink

 I had same problem

Change your miner from default of slush pool to other, then input stratum.bitcoin.cz and put 3333 instead of 8333 ..that should take care of it make sure to save settings so you don't have to reenter

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May 30, 2013, 08:12:37 AM
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With yours speed no way. Even in a year you haven't lost anything worth talking about if every day is like that... But since I pushed you into publishing scores it is fair that I also did the work.

Is your hashspeed 100x mine?

This was my point ever since. This is why I insist that there is no loss - because to calc it is much more loss. I guess 99% of miners here are around 1,5 - 5Ghash/s and all those issues are nonissues. If those losses are bothersome, consider solo mining...
 
Same with Slush himself I guess. It is more resource optimal to bear with some minor loss and wait over it. There are new bitcoind versions to have. I believe major pool software updates will happen sometime. It`s much more cost effective to just move forward, than to delve into logs and try to find and reproduce bugs that happen for ... how much?

When you are a one-man-army you have to concentrate and focus your efforts on the important stuff, globally important.
And I like situation that we have now much more, than if Slush was replying every single moaner here, while pool`s reliability degraded.
The pool works. It accepts shares and sends out due payments.
Let us celebrate that, please!

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May 30, 2013, 08:55:18 AM
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Wonder if I could infiltrate ASICMiner...  Shocked

Do it! Buy a share, that should do the trick  Tongue

Just joking btw. If you stay in one place for a long enough it will even out.

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May 30, 2013, 09:00:59 AM
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hi all,

i was on a trip for some weeks and the first thing i've done was to restart my mining pc. now after the restart the gui miner will not work on slushs pool. every time i start the miner the message appears:
api2.bitcoin.cz:8332....no json object could be decoded. failed to subscribe.io erros - 1, tolerance 2.

my miner was working for the last weeks without an interuption on an ati 7870/win7-300 mhash.

maybe someone have an idea? i'm at work and have no time to read the hole postings since the last 3 weeks.

kind regards, tea

SOLVED

it seems that the solution was to update my bitcoin client to the newest version 0.8.2  Wink

 I had same problem

Change your miner from default of slush pool to other, then input stratum.bitcoin.cz and put 3333 instead of 8333 ..that should take care of it make sure to save settings so you don't have to reenter

Tom
thanks for the answers:)

it seems that i was wrong. guiminer dont work^^

@vs3 :
Download official Windows binaries (EXE) or source package for Linux.
Run downloaded file. Console window will appear and proxy automatically connects to the pool. No command-line parameters required.
done
Now just change the URL in your miners from http://api.bitcoin.cz/ to http://localhost:8332/. Miners connect to the proxy using the old protocol, but the proxy talks to the pool by the new one!
how? sorry but i dont know where to add the new adress?


now the guiminer only appears at the taskbar and no more on the desktop when i start it.
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May 30, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
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My GTX580s would appear on the face of it not to be worth mining with at all, due to only generating about the same amount in bitcoins as they use in electricity.  Of course though there are two other factors that are often ignored.  The first is that maybe bitcoins will gain in value, eventually making it all worthwhile.  The other is the heat they produce, I haven't had to put my heating on since I started mining a couple of weeks ago so have already saved about £40 from my gas bill, which is more than I've used in extra electricity anyway.  Of course though summer is coming, (I hope, this is the UK after all!) so the heat will be a nuisance rather than a useful bonus then, so at that point I might stop mining and play a game instead.

This account has recently been hacked and taken over, I haven't posted anything for about two years.  Whoever has been using it and pretending to be me is a scammer.
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May 30, 2013, 09:31:55 AM
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hi all,

i was on a trip for some weeks and the first thing i've done was to restart my mining pc. now after the restart the gui miner will not work on slushs pool. every time i start the miner the message appears:
api2.bitcoin.cz:8332....no json object could be decoded. failed to subscribe.io erros - 1, tolerance 2.

my miner was working for the last weeks without an interuption on an ati 7870/win7-300 mhash.

maybe someone have an idea? i'm at work and have no time to read the hole postings since the last 3 weeks.

kind regards, tea

SOLVED

it seems that the solution was to update my bitcoin client to the newest version 0.8.2  Wink

 I had same problem

Change your miner from default of slush pool to other, then input stratum.bitcoin.cz and put 3333 instead of 8333 ..that should take care of it make sure to save settings so you don't have to reenter

Tom
thanks for the answers:)

it seems that i was wrong. guiminer dont work^^

@vs3 :
Download official Windows binaries (EXE) or source package for Linux.
Run downloaded file. Console window will appear and proxy automatically connects to the pool. No command-line parameters required.
done
Now just change the URL in your miners from http://api.bitcoin.cz/ to http://localhost:8332/. Miners connect to the proxy using the old protocol, but the proxy talks to the pool by the new one!
how? sorry but i dont know where to add the new adress?


now the guiminer only appears at the taskbar and no more on the desktop when i start it.

specifically on the question about "where to put the host/port" - from the dropdown with various pools select the last option - says "Other". After you select it two new fields will appear - for a host name and port. Put the IP of the computer where the proxy is running (including 127.0.0.1 if on the same machine) and in port leave the default 8332.

As for GUIMiner - I abandoned it as it was giving me a significantly lower hashrate than what I got with other miners. I'm currently with Phoenix 1.7.5 and not only does it make more hashes per second but also somehow the cards run much cooler than with any other miner. This is the only miner that would be stable at so significantly under-voltaged (0.975V) levels. With everything else I had to keep it at 1.000-1.025V at least. That's on 5850s - there is no guarantee you'll get similar observations, but I guess you wouldn't know until you try it Smiley

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Slow grind..only 3 blocks found in 12 hours.  Tongue
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May 30, 2013, 10:11:50 AM
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I just came back to mining bitcoins from litecoins.  I should have been getting 0.04BTC a day.  24 hours later I've got 0.01 unconfirmed.   Crap. 

I'm really regretting moving back to BTC with this luck.   Cry


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May 30, 2013, 11:45:02 AM
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Thank you very much, then it was unlucky:)
I use CGminer with stratum protocol for mining.
From blocks that MisterAnf publish I can tell you that you had a stratum error.
Thanks.
I dont understand these score system:S Can u please explain for me that?
I have again really low reward received.
18284    2013-05-30 09:23:24    5:14:27    48529423    764    0.00000027    none    238658    25.41754350

I cannot check this, because i dont know my score and the total score for this block. I can only calculate again from total shares, my shares and block value. :S
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May 30, 2013, 11:58:44 AM
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FYI: invalid 238665 NOT OUR BLOCK
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May 30, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
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With yours speed no way. Even in a year you haven't lost anything worth talking about if every day is like that... But since I pushed you into publishing scores it is fair that I also did the work.

Is your hashspeed 100x mine?

This was my point ever since. This is why I insist that there is no loss - because to calc it is much more loss. I guess 99% of miners here are around 1,5 - 5Ghash/s and all those issues are nonissues. If those losses are bothersome, consider solo mining...
 
Same with Slush himself I guess. It is more resource optimal to bear with some minor loss and wait over it. There are new bitcoind versions to have. I believe major pool software updates will happen sometime. It`s much more cost effective to just move forward, than to delve into logs and try to find and reproduce bugs that happen for ... how much?

When you are a one-man-army you have to concentrate and focus your efforts on the important stuff, globally important.
And I like situation that we have now much more, than if Slush was replying every single moaner here, while pool`s reliability degraded.
The pool works. It accepts shares and sends out due payments.
Let us celebrate that, please!

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Well not 100x but now it is about 35x... That also means that you don't look at 25% difference in payment as something that happens every 30 rounds so it is easy to find if something is wrong... Also with speeds over 2GH differences are much more easy to see as yours so taking you as a example is not a good idea... But if you don't care if you loos some % since it is currently really small in $ it your choice... For me it is much bigger. That is my point. And also a point of someone else. He has calculated that he lost 1 round in a reword system crush and he doesn't care... But he added that if he had ASIC he probably would. It is a difference if you get 0.002 per round or 0.06.
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May 30, 2013, 12:11:04 PM
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Thank you very much, then it was unlucky:)
I use CGminer with stratum protocol for mining.
From blocks that MisterAnf publish I can tell you that you had a stratum error.
Thanks.
I dont understand these score system:S Can u please explain for me that?
I have again really low reward received.
18284    2013-05-30 09:23:24    5:14:27    48529423    764    0.00000027    none    238658    25.41754350

I cannot check this, because i dont know my score and the total score for this block. I can only calculate again from total shares, my shares and block value. :S
What is your speed. Did you mined whole block and did you noticed any disconnections?
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May 30, 2013, 12:19:48 PM
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Thanks.
I dont understand these score system:S Can u please explain for me that?
I have again really low reward received.
18284    2013-05-30 09:23:24    5:14:27    48529423    764    0.00000027    none    238658    25.41754350

I cannot check this, because i dont know my score and the total score for this block. I can only calculate again from total shares, my shares and block value. :S
What is your speed. Did you mined whole block and did you noticed any disconnections?

My speed is ~178 mhps. I was online in the whole day no one disconnections. (CGminer started at 2013-05-29 09:04:12, and still running. i have +1GMT)
Rejected is 3 shares.
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May 30, 2013, 12:42:36 PM
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Any from the UK interested in a USB miner?


Small UK group buy Block Erupter USB @ 1.99 BTC + taxes/duty & postage
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219555.msg2312370#msg2312370

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May 30, 2013, 12:45:40 PM
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Thanks.
I dont understand these score system:S Can u please explain for me that?
I have again really low reward received.
18284    2013-05-30 09:23:24    5:14:27    48529423    764    0.00000027    none    238658    25.41754350

I cannot check this, because i dont know my score and the total score for this block. I can only calculate again from total shares, my shares and block value. :S
What is your speed. Did you mined whole block and did you noticed any disconnections?

My speed is ~178 mhps. I was online in the whole day no one disconnections. (CGminer started at 2013-05-29 09:04:12, and still running. i have +1GMT)
Rejected is 3 shares.
OK 3 hours ago so it would probably fix itself if it was planing to do so... You are also the only one for now who is complaining... So it was not blocks calculation error(probrbly). Hmm... 178 MH is about 2,45somthing shares/minute. So total shares should be 769... You are right there... Everything looks fine so it looks like it is stratum again. Sorry you are really unlucky... Or it is a location specific... Not sure.
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