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June 01, 2014, 06:39:04 AM
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Now 11 hours later the block time is 3min and there are 616 blocks to go. There will be 30 hours before the difficulty drop (to 0.005). Difficulty has (hopefully temporarily ) reached escape velocity.. this has better not become the beginning of vicious difficulty cycles:  difficulty drops to the floor when retargetting -> miners dive in and mine like there is no tomorrow -> difficulty goes through the roof and retarget-> miners leave and mining almost stops  -> slow confirmation time -> difficulty drops to floor -> long wait -> repeat

difficulty adjusts every block

How come the block time is almost 3 min for so long ? It should go back to ~1min soon after the N change, right?

YAC has a maximum difficulty adjustment of 1% per block.  So it takes a little while for the difficulty to even out.

In previous N-factor increases, it usually took 1-3 days for the difficulty to stabilize.

 

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June 01, 2014, 07:15:04 AM
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YAC has a maximum difficulty adjustment of 1% per block.  So it takes a little while for the difficulty to even out.

In previous N-factor increases, it usually took 1-3 days for the difficulty to stabilize.

That is good.   Smiley

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June 01, 2014, 09:28:41 AM
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Now 11 hours later the block time is 3min and there are 616 blocks to go. There will be 30 hours before the difficulty drop (to 0.005). Difficulty has (hopefully temporarily ) reached escape velocity.. this has better not become the beginning of vicious difficulty cycles:  difficulty drops to the floor when retargetting -> miners dive in and mine like there is no tomorrow -> difficulty goes through the roof and retarget-> miners leave and mining almost stops  -> slow confirmation time -> difficulty drops to floor -> long wait -> repeat

difficulty adjusts every block, and it will be on a downward plummet for a day or two.  Look at what it did for NF=14 - it was a veritable roller coaster of ups and downs, but no huge swings that it couldn't come back from...

Yeah, I think most mining pools use the litecoin difficulty adjustment calculations (because it is already built into the pool 'template').  I find myself looking at it quite often, but then I have to remind myself YAC adjusts each block.  It would be nice to see the actually next block estimated difficulty in pools though...

ahhh, i see what you're looking at.  I do see that on the pool, and it may actually be fairly accurate as to WHAT the diff will wind up as, but it's going to lower by a fraction every block.  I usually just look at one of my miners to see what it is... we've gone from a reported 1.08k diff to 1.02k in less than a day.  Would I like it to adjust faster, probably, but it's also not going  to skyrocket from really high hashrate for short periods of time either.

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June 01, 2014, 09:42:44 AM
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http://explore.grokonet.com/ Is there any API for this block explorer?

Official explorer has been dead for ages

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June 01, 2014, 10:27:15 AM
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http://explore.grokonet.com/ Is there any API for this block explorer?

Official explorer has been dead for ages
well, technically it's dead only since today. the motivation behind this decision is:
* it was running too damn slow to be of any use anyway
* the benefits of running that server didn't justify the cost (over $20/mo for something that's constantly moving through the thin line called "working/broken")
* some of the stat-generating cron jobs actually didn't even have a chance to complete as they were getting killed due to an out-of-memory condition

as a replacement, i'm running a (much cheaper but working and fast) new explorer at http://yacoin.unsha.net (it sucks, looking for javascript devs) along with enhanced electrum api. i'm documenting the original api (as it has no official docs that i'm aware of) and also my changes to it, the finished docs shoud be available later today.

as a quick fix for the coin mining comparison sites, here's a quick doc for the relevant api calls (for difficulty, hashrate, block reward, coin supply, block height and latest block; respectively):
Code:
$ echo '{"method": "blockchain.net.difficulty", "id": 0, "params": []}' | nc electrum.unsha.net 50001
{"id": 0, "result": 0.01548104}

$ echo '{"method": "blockchain.net.hashrate", "id": 0, "params": []}' | nc electrum.unsha.net 50001
{"id": 0, "result": 1108192.9181497758}

$ echo '{"method": "blockchain.net.blockreward", "id": 0, "params": []}' | nc electrum.unsha.net 50001
{"id": 0, "result": 50070000}

$ echo '{"method": "blockchain.net.coinsupply", "id": 0, "params": []}' | nc electrum.unsha.net 50001
{"id": 0, "result": 23037887792452}

$ echo '{"method": "blockchain.numblocks.subscribe", "id": 0, "params": []}' | nc electrum.unsha.net 50001
{"id": 0, "result": 576149}

$ echo '{"method": "blockchain.headers.subscribe", "id": 0, "params": []}' | nc electrum.unsha.net 50001
{"id": 0, "result": {"nonce": 17688, "prev_block_hash": "64c2a300de2372657c571ba01ccb4b2d666a62af3ad59b93253463316906eee9", "hash": "0000000bf3aaa90904defe5e2dc559da69e25205ceddad92ccdb58bfd7cc5948", "timestamp": 1401618292, "merkle_root": "a563c45d9fee71a9a4c0083d8bdbb0b1850986018c0e2df0d760fcc97a0da41b", "block_height": 576149, "difficulty": 0.01547291, "mint": 50080000, "size": 291, "totalsent": 50080000, "numtx": 1, "utxo_root": "4a3aeb6ed04606ff7c374fa36777cf8201e6058ab79b359de4ebe05a078f6ab9", "version": 3, "bits": 490774731}}

stats&graphs page is suspended until further notice (until i get some good explorer up and running)

the yac raffle if cancelled (it's not like millions of people used it anyway)

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June 01, 2014, 10:48:13 AM
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stats&graphs page is suspended until further notice (until i get some good explorer up and running)

the yac raffle if cancelled (it's not like millions of people used it anyway)

I did really like the stats/graphs - I referenced them often.  I'm happy to hear they'll be back.  Smiley

And the raffle was kind of tucked away.  I forgot it was there most of the time.  But, it would be nice to have some kind of 'lottery' or 'dice' game for YAC.

 

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June 01, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
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Don't forget to vote in the 10,000 YAC Meme Contest...

http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=661
You may post original page with all memes to. I dont see any vote who chose this 3 memes from all.

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June 01, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
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here's a beta version of the API reference, feel free to make a pull request Smiley
https://github.com/saironiq/electrum-server/blob/master/README-API.md

also, i'm open to suggestions for new api methods if you need them.

you can test the API at electrum.unsha.net
ports: 50001 (tcp), 50002 (ssl), 8081 (http), 8082 (https)
and the brand new webocket interfaces: 8008 (websocket), 8009 (ssl websocket)

i wanna see some great new services built upon this api! Tongue

you can run your own electrum server (clone at https://github.com/saironiq/electrum-server), however, you need to apply this patch to yacoind first: https://github.com/saironiq/yacoin/commit/801d5756072bbe087cf009ad8490aff17aeb664f

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June 01, 2014, 11:40:01 AM
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Don't forget to vote in the 10,000 YAC Meme Contest...

http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=661
You may post original page with all memes to. I dont see any vote who chose this 3 memes from all.

Fixed. The link to the thread with all of the memes submitted: http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=631

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June 01, 2014, 04:39:31 PM
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here's a beta version of the API reference, feel free to make a pull request Smiley
https://github.com/saironiq/electrum-server/blob/master/README-API.md

also, i'm open to suggestions for new api methods if you need them.

you can test the API at electrum.unsha.net
ports: 50001 (tcp), 50002 (ssl), 8081 (http), 8082 (https)
and the brand new webocket interfaces: 8008 (websocket), 8009 (ssl websocket)

i wanna see some great new services built upon this api! Tongue

you can run your own electrum server (clone at https://github.com/saironiq/electrum-server), however, you need to apply this patch to yacoind first: https://github.com/saironiq/yacoin/commit/801d5756072bbe087cf009ad8490aff17aeb664f

Can you post an example of http request to "getdifficulty"?. I cant seem to work it out.

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June 01, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
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here's a beta version of the API reference, feel free to make a pull request Smiley
https://github.com/saironiq/electrum-server/blob/master/README-API.md

also, i'm open to suggestions for new api methods if you need them.

you can test the API at electrum.unsha.net
ports: 50001 (tcp), 50002 (ssl), 8081 (http), 8082 (https)
and the brand new webocket interfaces: 8008 (websocket), 8009 (ssl websocket)

i wanna see some great new services built upon this api! Tongue

you can run your own electrum server (clone at https://github.com/saironiq/electrum-server), however, you need to apply this patch to yacoind first: https://github.com/saironiq/yacoin/commit/801d5756072bbe087cf009ad8490aff17aeb664f

Can you post an example of http request to "getdifficulty"?. I cant seem to work it out.
it's json-rpc. simply make a get or post request with data set to the actual request

eg. with curl:

Code:
curl -d '{"method": "blockchain.mempool.get", "id": 0, "params": []}' -H 'Cookie: SESSION=YOU-GET-THIS-FROM-SERVER-AFTER-FIRST-REQUEST' electrum.unsha.net:8081

the session cookie is quite important as the server will not neccessarily return the answer right away. if it doesn't, you just send an empty message ("[]" is a good example, an empty array) and the server sends you all the queued responses.

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June 01, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
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Maybe I should be more precise. Thats an example of use of MPOS api:
http://maxcoin.miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=api&action=getdifficulty&api_key=example_id&id=7067

Edit: I know that it may not be possible to get data straight from url, just wanted to make sure Wink

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June 01, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
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Maybe I should be more precise. Thats an example of use of MPOS api:
http://maxcoin.miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=api&action=getdifficulty&api_key=example_id&id=7067

Edit: I know that it may not be possible to get data straight from url, just wanted to make sure Wink
yeah, it's not possible. you need to make a post request

* sairon adds REST API to TODO list

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June 01, 2014, 09:11:14 PM
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Thanks, for now diff will be pulled from MPOS. Finally updating Cheesy

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June 01, 2014, 09:57:22 PM
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...WOW, what do you say know Beave162

My apologies everyone... just a reminder of all the crazy psychopaths out there who try so hard to feel important. Report Thiago1 to the moderator, and he should be banned.

Crazy psychopaths Huh  Look good at your self in the mirror and then you'll see the biggest one !



To All;

Look at the post found and quote below, the post of the so cold inquisitors and trollers....
 
Look how they express them self.

It is just full of anger. Blind anger.

It is just full of hate. Blind hate.

It is just full of filthy and provoking language.


The only meaning of those post of them (the trollers) are attacking, shocking, hurting and damaging other ones.

In this case hurting and damaging the developer of UTC and the coin UTC and thus the UTC community members.

But I belief it is good it happen now. It is very good how they (the trollers) express them self's and how they show their real identity and devil character.

Normal people, if they read those post, will only want to dissociate themselves of this kind of trollers.
From those kind off wolves in sheep clothes.

But hopefully they will stop now. Enough is enough !


















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June 02, 2014, 02:33:02 AM
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http://explore.grokonet.com/ Is there any API for this block explorer?

Official explorer has been dead for ages
Sorry, no plans for an API.
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June 02, 2014, 02:40:33 AM
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YAC is definitely most interesting coin from all recently made and as much as original creator disappeared

wow let coming on

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June 02, 2014, 02:45:02 AM
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I like what I am seeing. I always thought more credit was due for Scrypt N. Most people have no clue that this is the first one of that algo. I think I am going to start mining this. I am sick of the heat from Scrypt and I am sick of pretending that X11 is profitable (what a joke, give me access to sgminer setup for FPGA and I sure would LOVE it).

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June 02, 2014, 02:51:13 AM
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YAC has a maximum difficulty adjustment of 1% per block.  So it takes a little while for the difficulty to even out.

In previous N-factor increases, it usually took 1-3 days for the difficulty to stabilize.

That is good.   Smiley

There is a sharp drop of the number of miners (like 50%), probably because the sharp drop of profitability due to temporary high diff. I do hope they come back after the transition period.

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June 02, 2014, 04:05:19 AM
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YAC has a maximum difficulty adjustment of 1% per block.  So it takes a little while for the difficulty to even out.

In previous N-factor increases, it usually took 1-3 days for the difficulty to stabilize.

That is good.   Smiley

There is a sharp drop of the number of miners (like 50%), probably because the sharp drop of profitability due to temporary high diff. I do hope they come back after the transition period.

Well I am trying to GPU mine this for the first time with a rig that has 2 HD 7790 cards and 2 R9 270 cards. Anyone got any good configurations for either?

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