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April 13, 2014, 10:33:01 AM
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We have gone from decentralized currencies to centralized exchange tyranny  ::)




yeah, always the same problem: exchanges (as "interfacing" to the old, centralised "standard" world) are the biggest -- rather the only -- risk when it comes to using Crypto. The "core" system and overall tech works fine and has not had any flaws, ever.

It's like the government-mandated disclaimers out there of "There is risk in trading futures and options", and then it turns out that the only real losses you ever made are the fault of your idiot futures broker (all the time, have used six or seven outfits, no exception over 12+ years of trading)!!

Same thing with exchanges -- apparently the same kind of greedy, incompetent people running them :(( . Explains a lot...


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April 13, 2014, 03:47:13 PM
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We have gone from decentralized currencies to centralized exchange tyranny  Roll Eyes
yeah, always the same problem: exchanges (as "interfacing" to the old, centralised "standard" world) are the biggest -- rather the only -- risk when it comes to using Crypto. The "core" system and overall tech works fine and has not had any flaws, ever.

It's like the government-mandated disclaimers out there of "There is risk in trading futures and options", and then it turns out that the only real losses you ever made are the fault of your idiot futures broker (all the time, have used six or seven outfits, no exception over 12+ years of trading)!!

Same thing with exchanges -- apparently the same kind of greedy, incompetent people running them Sad( . Explains a lot...
reminds me of the quotes which all say the same thing:

...misunderstandings and neglect create more confusion in this world than trickery and malice.
At any rate, the last two are certainly much less frequent.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe The Sorrows of Young Werther (1774)

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice.
Heinlein's Razor

or similarly:
Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
Grey's Law

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April 13, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
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or similarly:
Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
Grey's Law


This... I like this...  I like this a lot!

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April 13, 2014, 07:57:25 PM
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So I believe YAC is stronger than any other coin in the development department. I think now there is just really a marketing void.

I think probably the easiest adjustment for the biggest return would be to change this development thread.

We can actually copy from the crap clone Ultracoin on something (sorry ThirtyBird, Ultracoin is awful). We need an 'official' thread that gives all the pertinent information for newcomers, ie links to pools, info on the characteristics, link to block explorer, link to bounty threads, link to announcement in different languages, etc, etc. It shouldn't be hard... Ultracoin actually did this well. Anyone else have a good announcement thread example to use?

I guess the real question is how do we go about making that change. I feel like Joe_Bauers should make the post, but someone else can do all the grunt work for him, so he can just copy and paste?

I tried contacting WindMaster, but he hasn't replied yet, so I think it is best just to create a new announcement thread. We just want to present it in an appealing and familiar and user-friendly way. In my view, the NFactor change can basically be treated as a new coin release just with a premine for the initial investors--we can call the thread "[ANN][YAC] NFactor 15+ YACoin". There isn't a huge rush I guess, but it would be very beneficial to have the thread setup prior to the next NFactor change.

Any thoughts?

BTW the 10,000 YAC Meme Contest is going well! There are some good ones. Submit your meme!

http://forum.yacoin.org/index.php?topic=631.0

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April 13, 2014, 09:55:12 PM
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I agree, Yac is miles ahead, and more so, it resists without much buzz surrounding it.

The other coin I like is Myriad, quite innovative but the algorithms they used are not ASIC resistant at all...they are addressing that though.
Their thread is a good role model as well, check it out.

We need some p2pool nodes, a proxy p2pool like doge and vertcoin has, some paper wallet generator and whatnot.
I can only mine, and help people with that lol, but I'll give yall some morale.
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April 14, 2014, 06:06:43 AM
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Paper wallet generator is my next project.

Do we want to create some shared forum account like Yacoin-PR ?
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April 14, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
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Paper wallet generator is my next project.
Been there, done that. Wink

https://github.com/saironiq/yaddress

Just needs to be rebranded from LTC.

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April 14, 2014, 10:08:13 AM
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Paper wallet generator is my next project.

Do we want to create some shared forum account like Yacoin-PR ?

I wouldn't think that's necessary...
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April 14, 2014, 11:20:45 AM
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Paper wallet generator is my next project.
Been there, done that. Wink

https://github.com/saironiq/yaddress

Just needs to be rebranded from LTC.

Test version with text replacements and 2 new images:
http://forum.yacoin.org/yaddress/
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April 14, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
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I tried contacting WindMaster, but he hasn't replied yet, so I think it is best just to create a new announcement thread. We just want to present it in an appealing and familiar and user-friendly way. In my view, the NFactor change can basically be treated as a new coin release just with a premine for the initial investors--we can call the thread "[ANN][YAC] NFactor 15+ YACoin". There isn't a huge rush I guess, but it would be very beneficial to have the thread setup prior to the next NFactor change.

I'm still around, just a bit busy at the moment.  If someone wants changes made to the posts at the start of this thread, write them up and propose them here and if everyone is happy with them, I'll tweak the posts.  I just don't have time to write the new content myself at the moment.
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April 14, 2014, 12:02:50 PM
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Test version with text replacements and 2 new images:
http://forum.yacoin.org/yaddress/

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<title>liteaddress.org</title>

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April 14, 2014, 12:15:43 PM
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Fixed
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April 14, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
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Incidentally, anyone looking to sell 50K to 100K YAC?  The order book on BTER and Cryptsy are rather thin, and the Marketplace section on the YACoin forum is pretty dead.  Hey StBitt, did you already unload the 200K to 400K you were looking to get rid of late last year?
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April 14, 2014, 01:16:01 PM
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Paper wallet generator is my next project.
Been there, done that. Wink

https://github.com/saironiq/yaddress

Just needs to be rebranded from LTC.

Test version with text replacements and 2 new images:
http://forum.yacoin.org/yaddress/

wow didn't expect it so fast Shocked
great job!

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April 14, 2014, 01:43:45 PM
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Your Alternative Currency

http://www.yacoin.org/


Specifications
No premine
Proof of Work: Scrypt-N SHA-3
Proof of Stake: 5% per year
Stake mining: 30 day wait, enabled with checkbox from wallet
Block time: 60 seconds
Block reward: MIN(100, diff ^ 1/6) or variable 0 to 100 based on difficulty
Total coin supply:
Difficulty adjusts every block
Configuration file: yacoin.conf

How it works
Yacoin is the original creator of Scrypt-N Proof of Work. Yacoin chose a PoW algoritm SHA-3 KECCAK to further distance itself from other coin creation schemes. Yacoin uses Proof of Stake to secure itself from pure PoW attacks.

Proof of Stake is an improved version from Peercoin's implementation. Yacoin counts PoS blocks with equal weight as PoW blocks.

Downloads

Github source
http://github.com/yacoin/yacoin

0.4.3 fixes the Heartbleed bug

Windows wallet
0.4.3 Yacoin 0.4.3.zip
sha1sum = 91ee8d1d140169c0af604c9649b977da890f644d

Ubuntu PPA
ppa:yacoin/yacoin
https://launchpad.net/~yacoin/+archive/yacoin

Mining instructions

Example yacoin.conf file:

Quote
rpcuser=my_user_name
rpcpassword=my_pasword
server=1
gen=1
genproclimit=-1

or type from the debug console:

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setgenerate true -1

Pools
http://yac.m-s-t.org/
http://yac.coinmine.pl
http://yac.ltcoin.net/


Block explorers
http://explorer.yacoin.org


Paper wallets
http://yaddress.yacoin.org


Exchanges

Bter
http://bter.com/trade/yac_btc

Cryptsy
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/11

Faucet
http://faucet.yacoin.org

Links & Social
Home page - http://yacoin.org
IRC - Channel #yacoin on freenode - http://webchat.freenode.net/
Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/yacoin
Twitter - https://twitter.com/YACoinJoe
Charts - http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/#jump-yac-btc
CoinMarketCap - http://coinmarketcap.com/yac_7.html

Community volunteers
Joe_Bauers - Wallet development
Groko - Wallet, QT, Forum
sairon - Block explorer
Sahtor - Forum, Faucet, IRC
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April 14, 2014, 02:04:10 PM
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Good announcement page. I think it should pitch more on ASIC resistence -- even scrypt ASICs -- and N = 14, enabling profitable CPU AND GPU mining, great for starters and late comers.  
Also not all POS wallets have coin control.

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April 14, 2014, 02:05:55 PM
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Looks about right (in reference to Sahtor's post above).  I have updated the first post of the thread to that.  I'm sure any other needed changes will get discussed in the thread and I'll make them as needed.  Thank you Sahtor, for taking the time to prepare the content.
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April 14, 2014, 03:33:36 PM
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Thank you so much, Sahtor. And thank you WindMaster!
I made some quick additions, comments:


Your Alternative Currency

http://www.yacoin.org/


Specifications
No premine
Proof of Work: Scrypt-N SHA-3
Proof of Stake: 5% per year [change to] 0.05 YAC rewarded per coin*year after 30 days
Stake minting: 30 day wait, enabled with checkbox from wallet
Block time: 60 seconds
Block reward: MIN(100, diff ^ 1/6) or variable 0 to 100 based on difficulty
Total coin supply: No upper limit Added--probably needs help. Will look for a good explanation from one of the clones
Difficulty adjusts every block
Configuration file: yacoin.conf

How it works I think more explanation can go here? Maybe some sales pitching--include outstanding features like coin control, checkbox stake minting, longterm asic resistance, each NFactor change decreases difficulty/increases block reward for newcomers with CPUs and low-end GPUs. I can work on something later. Great start!Yacoin is the original creator of Scrypt-N Proof of Work. Yacoin chose a PoW algoritm SHA-3 KECCAK to further distance itself from other coin creation schemes. Yacoin uses Proof of Stake to secure itself from pure PoW attacks.

Proof of Stake is an improved version from Peercoin's implementation. Yacoin counts PoS blocks with equal weight as PoW blocks.

Downloads

Github source
http://github.com/yacoin/yacoin

0.4.3 fixes the Heartbleed bug

Windows wallet
0.4.3 Yacoin 0.4.3.zip
sha1sum = 91ee8d1d140169c0af604c9649b977da890f644d

Ubuntu PPA
ppa:yacoin/yacoin
https://launchpad.net/~yacoin/+archive/yacoin

Mining instructions

Example yacoin.conf file:

Quote
rpcuser=my_user_name
rpcpassword=my_pasword
server=1
gen=1
genproclimit=-1

or type from the debug console:

Quote
setgenerate true -1

Standalone miners Entire section added

GPU Miner

https://github.com/Thirtybird/YACMiner/releases

Instructions: Perhaps ThirtyBird can give basic instructions here?

Example settings:

yacminer --scrypt-chacha --worksize 256 -g 1 --lookup-gap 2 --buffer-size 1700 -R 1280 -o stratum+tcp://<pool address>:<port> -u <username> -p <password>

CPU Miner

https://github.com/Thirtybird/cpuminer/releases

Pools
http://yac.m-s-t.org/
http://yac.coinmine.pl
http://yac.ltcoin.net/


Block explorers
http://explorer.yacoin.org


Paper wallets
http://yaddress.yacoin.org


Exchanges

Bter
http://bter.com/trade/yac_btc

Cryptsy
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/11

Faucet
http://faucet.yacoin.org

Links & Social
Home page - http://yacoin.org
YACoin Wiki - http://yacoinwiki.tk Added
IRC - Channel #yacoin on freenode - http://webchat.freenode.net/
Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/yacoin
Twitter - https://twitter.com/YACoinJoe
Charts - http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/#jump-yac-btc
CoinMarketCap - http://coinmarketcap.com/yac_7.html
NFactor Countdown - http://download.muuttuja.org/yacoin/countdown/ Added
Mining Hardware Comparison - http://yacoinwiki.tk/index/php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison  Added--or put in standalone miners section
Mining Profitability Calculator - http://explorer.yacoin.org/static/calc.htm  Added--or put in standalone miners section

Community volunteers
Joe_Bauers - Wallet development And yacoin.org Webmaster?
Groko - Wallet, QT, Forum
sairon - Block explorer
Sahtor - Forum, Faucet, IRC
ThirtyBird - Mining development Added

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April 14, 2014, 04:37:55 PM
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I agree, Yac is miles ahead, and more so, it resists without much buzz surrounding it.

The other coin I like is Myriad, quite innovative but the algorithms they used are not ASIC resistant at all...they are addressing that though.
Their thread is a good role model as well, check it out.

We need some p2pool nodes, a proxy p2pool like doge and vertcoin has, some paper wallet generator and whatnot.
I can only mine, and help people with that lol, but I'll give yall some morale.

+1 for the tip on myriadcoin's announcement page
Myriadcoin is pretty impressive. I think we all have an affinity for innovation (not crap clones). One of the 5 algorithm's should have been scrypt-chacha though--just sayin. Smiley

Paper wallet generator is my next project.
Been there, done that. Wink

https://github.com/saironiq/yaddress

Just needs to be rebranded from LTC.

Test version with text replacements and 2 new images:
http://forum.yacoin.org/yaddress/

wow didn't expect it so fast Shocked
great job!

Who wants a paper wallet when you have checkbox stake minting in the qt wallet. Wink

Good announcement page. I think it should pitch more on ASIC resistence -- even scrypt ASICs -- and N = 14, enabling profitable CPU AND GPU mining, great for starters and late comers. 
Also not all POS wallets have coin control.


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April 14, 2014, 04:42:27 PM
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Incidentally, anyone looking to sell 50K to 100K YAC?  The order book on BTER and Cryptsy are rather thin, and the Marketplace section on the YACoin forum is pretty dead.  Hey StBitt, did you already unload the 200K to 400K you were looking to get rid of late last year?

I'll sell but not at the price you are looking for I am sure. You should pretty much ignore the orderbook though. Trading bots are hard at work on those sites.

Thanks again for updating this thread. Perhaps yacoin.org can have a link to here as the 'official' thread?

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