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Author Topic: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development  (Read 325708 times)
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June 04, 2014, 04:10:55 AM
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Those are really useful features no one focuses on...they just assume bitcoind works 100%.
Thanks and props!
Hello Ivan,

Is your message (# 2171) referring to the previous message # 2170, which is mine?  If so, thank you.  If not, then it should be Grin 

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Yessir! :p
You have some really cool ideas for the wallet.
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June 04, 2014, 04:43:50 AM
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Can you give me some data on how much hashrate (N=15) would you get with this cards?

280x=
750ti =
R7 240 4GB =

Thanks!

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June 04, 2014, 05:11:20 AM
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Can you give me some data on how much hashrate (N=15) would you get with this cards?

750ti = 1220 H/s
R7 240 4GB = 984 H/s
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June 04, 2014, 12:20:12 PM
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R7 240 4GB = 984 H/s


You're a little low, may want to work on settings - try a lower LG or increase frequencies.  You're leaving hashpower on the table...

R7 240 4GB = 1.18 KH/sec

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June 04, 2014, 06:48:26 PM
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Diff is still too slow to adjust.
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June 04, 2014, 07:42:22 PM
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Diff is still too slow to adjust.

I don't think one can ever define 'too slow' in this sense. Theoretically, a whole bunch of miners could jump on even with the high difficulty because it is that profitable with certain cpus, gpus (especially consdering one could easily pump the price up right now), and the difficulty wouldn't have to adjust that much. I think this NFactor has really beaten down the 1gb and 2gb gpu cards.

BTW well done! YACoin has now surpassed bitcoin in marketcap by more than 10 fold! lol wth...


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June 04, 2014, 07:47:00 PM
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BTW well done! YACoin has now surpassed bitcoin in marketcap by more than 10 fold! lol wth...
lmao, an unintended consequence of joe switching the dns of explorer.yacoin.org to the new server and me implementing an (almost Cheesy) compatible api on it - though instead of a decimal number it lists the coin supply in satoshis Grin

anyway, hopefully this gets us some nice publicity and maybe even increase the exchange rate a bit Tongue

R7 240 4GB = 984 H/s
You're a little low, may want to work on settings - try a lower LG or increase frequencies.  You're leaving hashpower on the table...

R7 240 4GB = 1.18 KH/sec
i'll just leave this here Wink http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

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June 04, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
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BTW well done! YACoin has now surpassed bitcoin in marketcap by more than 10 fold! lol wth...
lmao, an unintended consequence of joe switching the dns of explorer.yacoin.org to the new server and me implementing an (almost Cheesy) compatible api on it - though instead of a decimal number it lists the coin supply in satoshis Grin

anyway, hopefully this gets us some nice publicity and maybe even increase the exchange rate a bit Tongue

Ok, someone buy and sell to themselves to get the volume to 1 btc, and there will be quite a stir--probably and angry one haha.

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June 04, 2014, 08:19:13 PM
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R7 240 4GB = 984 H/s


You're a little low, may want to work on settings - try a lower LG or increase frequencies.  You're leaving hashpower on the table...

R7 240 4GB = 1.18 KH/sec


So 240 4gb and 750ti are 2 most efficient cards to mine yac right now?

I just want to try the coin especially with much greener setup.

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June 04, 2014, 08:20:42 PM
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Yup, those are the best, power/performance/cost wise.

The new NVIDIA GTX 880 with 8gb of ram might surpass them, but it will probably come out in October.
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June 04, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
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Yup, those are the best, power/performance/cost wise.

The new NVIDIA GTX 880 with 8gb of ram might surpass them, but it will probably come out in October.

Thanks!

Would you know how much wattage draw they use per card mining with yac?

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June 04, 2014, 08:38:47 PM
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R7 240 4GB = 984 H/s


You're a little low, may want to work on settings - try a lower LG or increase frequencies.  You're leaving hashpower on the table...

R7 240 4GB = 1.18 KH/sec


So 240 4gb and 750ti are 2 most efficient cards to mine yac right now?

I just want to try the coin especially with much greener setup.

From a price/performance ratio, yes.  
The R7 240 4GB can be had for ~$70-$80 and draws 25W under YAC mining load
The 750 Ti is $130-$140 and I understand is around 35W under YAC mining load
If you just want to mine YAC, go the R7 route.  If you want a card that is good for a lot of things that happens to be decent mining YAC, spend more for the 750 Ti.

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June 04, 2014, 08:53:35 PM
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R7 240 4GB = 984 H/s


You're a little low, may want to work on settings - try a lower LG or increase frequencies.  You're leaving hashpower on the table...

R7 240 4GB = 1.18 KH/sec


So 240 4gb and 750ti are 2 most efficient cards to mine yac right now?

I just want to try the coin especially with much greener setup.

From a price/performance ratio, yes. 
The R7 240 4GB can be had for ~$70-$80 and draws 25W under YAC mining load
The 750 Ti is $130-$140 and I understand is around 35W under YAC mining load
If you just want to mine YAC, go the R7 route.  If you want a card that is good for a lot of things that happens to be decent mining YAC, spend more for the 750 Ti.

My 6 x R7 240 4GB rig is running at a total of 300W. It is 80W without my GPUs running. Therefore, I'm getting ~36W per card on average, but I think I am paying a price from trying to cut corners with an inefficient PSU.

The R7 240 4GB is great at mining NFactor 14 too. Perhaps, the multipool(s) should be specific to the GPU, ie a 750ti multipool, an R7 240 4GB multipool and so forth... paying out in YAC only of course.

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June 04, 2014, 09:03:00 PM
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My 6 x R7 240 4GB rig is running at a total of 300W. It is 80W without my GPUs running. Therefore, I'm getting ~36W per card on average, but I think I am paying a price from trying to cut corners with an inefficient PSU.


I'd have to say that might be it.  I've got an EVGA Supernova 750B on mine, and at idle it pulls 82 watts, and running 4 cards it's 182.  With the other rig plugged in and running (4 x R7 250's), it goes up to 384 Watts.  That gives me ~8 KH/sec between the 2 rigs, which should be ~1000 YAC/day when the difficulty settles down.  We're not even down to 50% of the NF=14 diff (it will drop below 50%) and returns are back to ~800 YAC/day.

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June 04, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
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My 6 x R7 240 4GB rig is running at a total of 300W. It is 80W without my GPUs running. Therefore, I'm getting ~36W per card on average, but I think I am paying a price from trying to cut corners with an inefficient PSU.


I'd have to say that might be it.  I've got an EVGA Supernova 750B on mine, and at idle it pulls 82 watts, and running 4 cards it's 182.  With the other rig plugged in and running (4 x R7 250's), it goes up to 384 Watts.  That gives me ~8 KH/sec between the 2 rigs, which should be ~1000 YAC/day when the difficulty settles down.  We're not even down to 50% of the NF=14 diff (it will drop below 50%) and returns are back to ~800 YAC/day.

I've been meaning to do some extensive testing in the power-efficiency arena. Rough calculation, it seems I am costing myself $0.25 per day on one rig by using this PSU. But at this point, 750B might be an overkill for me. I'm wondering if crappy riser cables also play a factor...

Again, we can't predict exactly where the difficulty ends up right? It could be more or less when it settles. You assume the exact same miners from prior to the NFactor change. I say more, new miners will jump on board--optimism.

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June 04, 2014, 09:45:28 PM
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I've been meaning to do some extensive testing in the power-efficiency arena. Rough calculation, it seems I am costing myself $0.25 per day on one rig by using this PSU. But at this point, 750B might be an overkill for me. I'm wondering if crappy riser cables also play a factor...
Not likely the riser cables, just efficiency of the power supply likely.  My other machine is on a Supernova 650 Gold - I bought nice re-usable components for the things that have a life after crypto mining...

Again, we can't predict exactly where the difficulty ends up right? It could be more or less when it settles. You assume the exact same miners from prior to the NFactor change. I say more, new miners will jump on board--optimism.
I think you're overly optimistic - with the way the hashrate fell for all cards that aren't 4GB cards, I would make you a gentlemans wager that we're going to see it below 50% what it was a week ago (1.08k per the mining software, 0.0164 difficulty).  If we settle above 500/0.0763 I would be shocked.  My best cards dropped 60%, my worst 70% and   I'm going to hypothesize that all CPU's dropped by 50%.  So, unless, as you say, there is an influx of new miners, a 60%+ drop in difficulty should not be a surprise.

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June 04, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
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My 6 x R7 240 4GB rig is running at a total of 300W. It is 80W without my GPUs running. Therefore, I'm getting ~36W per card on average, but I think I am paying a price from trying to cut corners with an inefficient PSU.


I'd have to say that might be it.  I've got an EVGA Supernova 750B on mine, and at idle it pulls 82 watts, and running 4 cards it's 182.  With the other rig plugged in and running (4 x R7 250's), it goes up to 384 Watts.  That gives me ~8 KH/sec between the 2 rigs, which should be ~1000 YAC/day when the difficulty settles down.  We're not even down to 50% of the NF=14 diff (it will drop below 50%) and returns are back to ~800 YAC/day.

Looking forward to that! Might cpu mine it too...I'm folding for now.
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June 04, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
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Again, we can't predict exactly where the difficulty ends up right? It could be more or less when it settles. You assume the exact same miners from prior to the NFactor change. I say more, new miners will jump on board--optimism.
I think you're overly optimistic - with the way the hashrate fell for all cards that aren't 4GB cards, I would make you a gentlemans wager that we're going to see it below 50% what it was a week ago (1.08k per the mining software, 0.0164 difficulty).  If we settle above 500/0.0763 I would be shocked.  My best cards dropped 60%, my worst 70% and   I'm going to hypothesize that all CPU's dropped by 50%.  So, unless, as you say, there is an influx of new miners, a 60%+ drop in difficulty should not be a surprise.


If your assumptions pan out, the price will have to drop significantly from where it is now or the profitably per R7 240 4GB (and lots of CPUs btw) will be pretty significant. All likely scenarios seem pretty good for me, so I'll bet you 1000 YAC that now until Sunday (midnight EDT) difficulty never drops below 500... Smiley

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June 04, 2014, 11:49:28 PM
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Don't think people will run to buy r7s...people are lazy and slow.
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June 05, 2014, 12:13:36 AM
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Don't think people will run to buy r7s...people are lazy and slow.

CPUs!!

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