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May 25, 2018, 10:59:39 PM
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I've had my units for a while just running them on the initial setup on litecoinpool.org. I want to start mining DOGE or VERGE or anything else. I cant get BFGminer to connect to any other pool. it keeps saying I have input the wrong url or port. I have the batch file written just like before but with AIKAPOOL.com. Does anyone have suggestions?
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May 26, 2018, 02:09:46 PM
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I have 2 barely used Future moonlander 2 for sale.I recently moved after I purchased them so they have been sitting unused recently tested and they work like new.  Pm me if interested.
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May 26, 2018, 07:22:39 PM
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I've had my units for a while just running them on the initial setup on litecoinpool.org. I want to start mining DOGE or VERGE or anything else. I cant get BFGminer to connect to any other pool. it keeps saying I have input the wrong url or port. I have the batch file written just like before but with AIKAPOOL.com. Does anyone have suggestions?

You need to point to a Stratum Port. Read the help page for getting started when in the coin you want to mine.
IE for DOGE;  https://aikapool.com/doge/index.php?page=gettingstarted
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May 27, 2018, 06:51:08 AM
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Hi, I have a fan question, i know it was talked about in the past, but i scanned the thread and couldn't find any conversations about it. so i have 9 moonlanders, but 2 of them are fairly noisy and 3 of them sound like a jet taking off in my office. i'm curious about replacing the fans on them, and was wondering what specs were ideal, and if anybody had a recommendation of a solid fan, that is also ideally as quiet as possible. i'm only running 4 of them currently, and it burns to not be running at full capacity.

I found these, which seem to be what's stock on the moonlander.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5v-5-volt-25mm-7mm-25x7mm-9-Blade-Small-Micro-Axial-Flow-Blushless-DC-Cooling-Fan/32246944246.html?src=google&albslr=202576665&isdl=y&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&source=%7Bifdyn:dyn%7D%7Bifpla:pla%7D%7Bifdbm:DBM&albch=DID%7D&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&albcp=653153647&albag=34728528644&slnk=&trgt=75384829977&plac=&crea=en32246944246&netw=g&device=c&mtctp=&aff_platform=google&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6J7YBRC4ARIsAJMXXsfcN7LaAp_bgF--sgLpQyiTSTgP4445wYqvHzns_OOOk1X2Mfi7OVkaAgEGEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

but there's also these, which instead of 5v is 24v. will this blow up my moonlander? hahaha
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV1RM7AV5512&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Case+Fans-_-9SIV1RM7AV5512&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6J7YBRC4ARIsAJMXXsdgF6RZSzd8o9yOZDXdN-KaBf_sFfGtR_pkngS8u_4G8EssB2A5X8waAq6kEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

if anyone has replaced their fans and are happy with their results, please let me know. dying to get back up to full capacity. thanks!!

before replacing the fans, carefully take them apart by removing the rubber o ring from the shaft under the sticker and use some lithium grease on the bearing..
i did mine and now they are completely silent and been going for months.
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May 28, 2018, 04:15:50 PM
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before replacing the fans, carefully take them apart by removing the rubber o ring from the shaft under the sticker and use some lithium grease on the bearing..
i did mine and now they are completely silent and been going for months.


Thanks for the tip! ordering some grease now, hopefully that does the trick. my only fear is that if it does, i'll start buying more moonlanders hahaha
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May 29, 2018, 03:59:17 PM
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before replacing the fans, carefully take them apart by removing the rubber o ring from the shaft under the sticker and use some lithium grease on the bearing..
i did mine and now they are completely silent and been going for months.


Thanks for the tip! ordering some grease now, hopefully that does the trick. my only fear is that if it does, i'll start buying more moonlanders hahaha

These are sleeve bearing fans so they do need to be greased up once in a while. A bit of machine oil should do the trick. (like mentioned above you can unscrew the fan and get to the sleeve bearing by pulling back the sticker on the back of the fan.

I will also be listing fan replacement at shop.futurebit.io at my cost + shipping which will be under $5. If you want something that will last longer I would go with a dual ball bearing 25mm 5v fan which some people have listed here before. Of course these can get rather pricey.

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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May 29, 2018, 04:25:38 PM
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before replacing the fans, carefully take them apart by removing the rubber o ring from the shaft under the sticker and use some lithium grease on the bearing..
i did mine and now they are completely silent and been going for months.


Thanks for the tip! ordering some grease now, hopefully that does the trick. my only fear is that if it does, i'll start buying more moonlanders hahaha

These are sleeve bearing fans so they do need to be greased up once in a while. A bit of machine oil should do the trick. (like mentioned above you can unscrew the fan and get to the sleeve bearing by pulling back the sticker on the back of the fan.

I will also be listing fan replacement at shop.futurebit.io at my cost + shipping which will be under $5. If you want something that will last longer I would go with a dual ball bearing 25mm 5v fan which some people have listed here before. Of course these can get rather pricey.

Maybe you would consider putting the ball bearing fan on the website as an upgrade?
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May 29, 2018, 06:27:46 PM
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before replacing the fans, carefully take them apart by removing the rubber o ring from the shaft under the sticker and use some lithium grease on the bearing..
i did mine and now they are completely silent and been going for months.


Thanks for the tip! ordering some grease now, hopefully that does the trick. my only fear is that if it does, i'll start buying more moonlanders hahaha

These are sleeve bearing fans so they do need to be greased up once in a while. A bit of machine oil should do the trick. (like mentioned above you can unscrew the fan and get to the sleeve bearing by pulling back the sticker on the back of the fan.

I will also be listing fan replacement at shop.futurebit.io at my cost + shipping which will be under $5. If you want something that will last longer I would go with a dual ball bearing 25mm 5v fan which some people have listed here before. Of course these can get rather pricey.

Maybe you would consider putting the ball bearing fan on the website as an upgrade?


Thats a good idea...ill see if I can source some for cheap.

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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May 31, 2018, 06:59:33 AM
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Hello! The concept is not bad. And the instructions are clear, well written. THX I'm waiting, I want to get one! Thank you!!
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June 01, 2018, 12:56:17 AM
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before replacing the fans, carefully take them apart by removing the rubber o ring from the shaft under the sticker and use some lithium grease on the bearing..
i did mine and now they are completely silent and been going for months.


This worked really well, i have all 9 running. all 9 together just sounds like my mac is running, so this'll work! thanks for your help!
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June 01, 2018, 03:04:38 AM
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Thank you for guidance!
Look forward to and try them.
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June 03, 2018, 12:51:53 PM
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Just to let you guys know, SiLabs updated the UART drivers to 10.1.2, these work with the newest windows updates Smiley
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June 05, 2018, 01:54:11 AM
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I am fairly new to this and have a simple question that I have not been able to find the answer for.  I am using 4 moonlander 2 devices on litecoin pool and would like to set up to use different worker for each device.  Do I need to create a separate bfgminer start file for each device/worker?  If so, how do I show the device in the start file instead of "all".  I am using a Mac.
Thanks, help will be appreciated.
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June 05, 2018, 04:38:32 PM
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Do I need to create a separate bfgminer start file for each device/worker?

You might be able to run separate instances of BFGMiner calling a specific device only to run in that instance. How you call a specific device is tricky and may not be the same once you restart bfgminer. More trouble than it is worth. I considered doing this at one point, but didn't see the value in it later. You see the hash rate in bfgminer already. You don't know which specific device is doing it because MLD 0,1,2,3 may not be the same the next time you restart bfgminer.

Just run bfgminer instance and have it recognize all four ML2 in one instance.

What is important is adequate power and external cooling that helps to optimize the hash rate.

Personally, I hope this is the end of USB powered miners and they go to power bricks. Trying to buy adequate USB data powered HUB is costly and unreliable. Use USB for data only and power it externally through a power brick. I think that will reduce support time and allow everyone to mine easily.

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June 05, 2018, 11:27:36 PM
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I have 3 MLDs but have never been able to run them continuously powered by a USB hub. There are always problems causing me to have to restart the USB hub, replug the miners into different ports, ports losing power etc etc. I conclude that it is not reliable enough but surely a fun way to get familiarised with how mining works (and doesn't work).
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June 06, 2018, 12:16:36 AM
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Interesting that the answer to my question seems to be don't mess with these things and they don't work reliably.  i am running these on 2 separate powered usb hubs and they work just fine and have been very stable.  it seems like the problems start when cranking them up too high and when using inadequately powered hubs.  I don't have that problem.  I do understand the response that running them with separate workers/devices does not really accomplish anything and isn't worth the bother.   Thanks.
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June 07, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
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Interesting that the answer to my question seems to be don't mess with these things and they don't work reliably.  i am running these on 2 separate powered usb hubs and they work just fine and have been very stable.  it seems like the problems start when cranking them up too high and when using inadequately powered hubs.  I don't have that problem.  I do understand the response that running them with separate workers/devices does not really accomplish anything and isn't worth the bother.   Thanks.

All this stuff has been covered dozens of times in this thread, and your specific question is covered in the FAQ on the first page.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2420357.msg24766878#msg24766878

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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June 09, 2018, 11:37:24 PM
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I have 7 ML2s OC'd @ 900mHz on 2 hubs (2 on pluggable 7 port / 5 on a no name 13 port hub) via raspberry pi. They average 35-36MH/s total. The temps are in the mid 50sC. They are all separate workers on separate instances of bfgminer. The USB ports stay consistent after reboot - haven't had to reboot the pi since this final setup was implemented a month ago. When one of the MLs goes offline, I receive an email which then send a text message, then use TeamViewer to log into the pi via iPhone or PC to restart that instance of bfgminer.

I used a voltmeter to tune the first two, but now just use those base pot positions on new ones, then tune them on the fly while watching them hash. Once the error rate goes below 1% I'm good. Usually 15 minutes to tune.

Some have gone two weeks without restart. I only have to restart the bfgminer instance for that specific miner. Not the raspberry pi, not the hubs. I haven't had to reseat the miners in the physical USB ports yet. These are reliable and jstefanop has very good support - hence the reason I'm taking the time to write this. Maybe the raspberry pi makes them more reliable vs windows? Maybe it's the USB hubs? Not sure, but 7 out of 7 all @ 900Mhz @ over 5mH/s each with no issues is pretty good. For cooling, I have a 4" case fan blowing across them. I've bought them from futurebit as well as ebay and have a wide range of serial numbers, meaning quality over time is consistent. In the linked image, you'll see the seven instances and hash rate.

These are not going to make you instant rich, but who knows what the bits of mined coins over time may be worth in 10 years. These are fun if you like to tinker with technology.

Reading this over, it looks like a paid testimonial! It's not haha.



(you'll notice they've only been running a day due to router firmware update breaking the internet connection)

Thanks for taking the time to write this! Obviously this is the support thread so your only going to hear about people having issues, and not the thousands of people running these 24/7 with no hiccups...so awesome to hear from you once in a while!

Project Apollo: A Pod Miner Designed for the Home https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4974036
FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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June 10, 2018, 01:12:16 PM
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These have been working great for me on litecoinpool.org, mine have been going for over a week now without any issues. I was thinking about trying out prohashing.com, anyone mining there with these? What do I need to enter in the start_moonlander2 file for prohashing (I have three sticks if that matters re: difficulty)? Thanks as always 
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June 11, 2018, 12:39:32 AM
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I have 7 ML2s OC'd @ 900mHz on 2 hubs (2 on pluggable 7 port / 5 on a no name 13 port hub) via raspberry pi. They average 35-36MH/s total. The temps are in the mid 50sC. They are all separate workers on separate instances of bfgminer. The USB ports stay consistent after reboot - haven't had to reboot the pi since this final setup was implemented a month ago. When one of the MLs goes offline, I receive an email which then send a text message, then use TeamViewer to log into the pi via iPhone or PC to restart that instance of bfgminer.

I used a voltmeter to tune the first two, but now just use those base pot positions on new ones, then tune them on the fly while watching them hash. Once the error rate goes below 1% I'm good. Usually 15 minutes to tune.

Some have gone two weeks without restart. I only have to restart the bfgminer instance for that specific miner. Not the raspberry pi, not the hubs. I haven't had to reseat the miners in the physical USB ports yet. These are reliable and jstefanop has very good support - hence the reason I'm taking the time to write this. Maybe the raspberry pi makes them more reliable vs windows? Maybe it's the USB hubs? Not sure, but 7 out of 7 all @ 900Mhz @ over 5mH/s each with no issues is pretty good. For cooling, I have a 4" case fan blowing across them. I've bought them from futurebit as well as ebay and have a wide range of serial numbers, meaning quality over time is consistent. In the linked image, you'll see the seven instances and hash rate.

These are not going to make you instant rich, but who knows what the bits of mined coins over time may be worth in 10 years. These are fun if you like to tinker with technology.

Reading this over, it looks like a paid testimonial! It's not haha.

https://s5.postimg.cc/hjolrdagn/rpi_ML2.jpg

(you'll notice they've only been running a day due to router firmware update breaking the internet connection)

Could you tell more about that hub (13 ports) 5 Moonlanderat 900 mHz its a lot of A
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