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March 16, 2018, 01:22:08 PM
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ordered 5 of these today to attach to my odroid XU4 which is similar to a raspberry pi but usb3 and 8 core, im ordering a nice powered usb hub to go with it.
are there any quirks to the software either running or building under an arm processor running linux that I should know of before getting frustrated?

guess not then thanks guys  Roll Eyes

It's not called for to react like that if no one has been able to help you within 1 day. Probably not many odroid users in this topic.
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March 16, 2018, 01:26:38 PM
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I've had my 3 MLD's running for nearly a day now:


Really stable in this config. Low error rate too.

Unfortunately, my USB fans have ALL failed. Despite that, the temps on the MLD's are between 42-45 degrees celsius on the small (uncooled) heatsink. So i feel like there's quite a bit of room left to turn up the frequency here Smiley
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March 16, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
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It's not called for to react like that if no one has been able to help you within 1 day. Probably not many odroid users in this topic.

sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

guess I'll just try to build the software when(if) the sticks arrive and report back with a guide if successful or a question or two if not

I've had my 3 MLD's running for nearly a day now:

Really stable in this config. Low error rate too.

Unfortunately, my USB fans have ALL failed. Despite that, the temps on the MLD's are between 42-45 degrees celsius on the small (uncooled) heatsink. So i feel like there's quite a bit of room left to turn up the frequency here Smiley

if you've got any spare pc fans you can run them directly from a 12v dc transformer if you've got one kicking about (box of bits) just use the yellow(+) and black(-) wires

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It's not called for to react like that if no one has been able to help you within 1 day. Probably not many odroid users in this topic.

sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

guess I'll just try to build the software when(if) the sticks arrive and report back with a guide if successful or a question or two if not

I've had my 3 MLD's running for nearly a day now:

Really stable in this config. Low error rate too.

Unfortunately, my USB fans have ALL failed. Despite that, the temps on the MLD's are between 42-45 degrees celsius on the small (uncooled) heatsink. So i feel like there's quite a bit of room left to turn up the frequency here Smiley

if you've got any spare pc fans you can run them directly from a 12v dc transformer if you've got one kicking about (box of bits) just use the yellow(+) and black(-) wires

In my younger days i'd have a couple of fans and power supplies lying around but not anymore :p

I got in touch with the seller and they are sending me new, different fans of higher quality, only had to pay the price difference which is fine with me.

As for the odroid, maybe some people will be able to help you now they know its the same working as a pi.

I currently have my MLDs runnibg at 900 freq, giving ~5.1mhs each Smiley hw errors at 1.7-2.5%.
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March 17, 2018, 02:04:31 PM
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Kinda new to this so bear with me, I have 4 moonlanders's running in separate instances of bfgminer. Seem my hash rates stay a lot more stable then running them all in one instance. I have 2 running on one windows 10 computer and 2 running on a windows 7 computer both 64bit. I dont know if its possible but is there a way I can direct all 4 instances of befminer to one internal proxy them connect that one internal proxy to the external pool or pools of my choice so they show up on the pool as one instance of bfgminer instead of 4. I tried making the same worker names for each instance but the miners still show up on pools as a instances of bfgminer or sometimes 2 due to 2 different computer running them.  Any ideas?
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It's not called for to react like that if no one has been able to help you within 1 day. Probably not many odroid users in this topic.

sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

guess I'll just try to build the software when(if) the sticks arrive and report back with a guide if successful or a question or two if not

I've had my 3 MLD's running for nearly a day now:

Really stable in this config. Low error rate too.

Unfortunately, my USB fans have ALL failed. Despite that, the temps on the MLD's are between 42-45 degrees celsius on the small (uncooled) heatsink. So i feel like there's quite a bit of room left to turn up the frequency here Smiley

if you've got any spare pc fans you can run them directly from a 12v dc transformer if you've got one kicking about (box of bits) just use the yellow(+) and black(-) wires


I agrees with the fan's issue. 2 of my fans have gotten really loud and are hogging a ton of power due to resistance increase in the fan motors, I have added a drop of very high quality bearing oil to the shafts and it smoothed them out a bit but not enough reduce the power draw created by excessive resistance due to wear. If you do find higher quality fans or even a fan/heatsink combo Please let me know. This is a great hobby, just dont wanna come home one day to a fried moonlader board cause a fan failed.
In my younger days i'd have a couple of fans and power supplies lying around but not anymore :p

I got in touch with the seller and they are sending me new, different fans of higher quality, only had to pay the price difference which is fine with me.

As for the odroid, maybe some people will be able to help you now they know its the same working as a pi.

I currently have my MLDs runnibg at 900 freq, giving ~5.1mhs each Smiley hw errors at 1.7-2.5%.
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March 17, 2018, 03:53:38 PM
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Kinda new to this so bear with me, I have 4 moonlanders's running in separate instances of bfgminer. Seem my hash rates stay a lot more stable then running them all in one instance. I have 2 running on one windows 10 computer and 2 running on a windows 7 computer both 64bit. I dont know if its possible but is there a way I can direct all 4 instances of befminer to one internal proxy them connect that one internal proxy to the external pool or pools of my choice so they show up on the pool as one instance of bfgminer instead of 4. I tried making the same worker names for each instance but the miners still show up on pools as a instances of bfgminer or sometimes 2 due to 2 different computer running them.  Any ideas?

you need a stratum proxy if you want to do that sir i use one for cryptonight mining

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might be a bit outdated but:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=387977.0

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sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

here's a raspi user, currently driving 3 moonlander2 and an old rpi2 for bfgminer off a 'rather pricey' and very powerful USB hub at 796, above they become unstable in a rather unpredictable way. i suspect the usb WLAN dongle i have to use in my setup as a part of the problem - i think i read about USB bus saturation being a possible problem SOMEWHERE, but didn't debug in this direction any further yet...

anyways, the basic setup worked like a breeze. plug your MLDs in, run bfgminer as described in a lot of places, watch your MLDs have fun. however 9 more moonlanders are on their way to me, and i am eager to see if i can drive all i then have reliably with a bunch of hubs and one rpi3, which will eliminate the need of a seperate dongle.

considering that could actually fail, i have a bunch of rpi2 around, and a bananapi routerboard (BPI-R1). i'm kinda sure i'll find a way to make it work reliably, somehow.
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March 18, 2018, 12:32:16 PM
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Currently i've got them running at 900mhz, i gotta say, the MLD's run smooth and stable!!

The newly placed win10 laptop and wifi connection is a different story though. Hope i got that fixed and have stopped win 10 auto updates.
Currently am using fans from HAMA and Arctic:


And this is them running after a reboot of the laptop:


With these fans the temps seem to stay between 42-54 degrees celsius. (2 ara within the 42-45 degree range, one runs a lot hotter maybe this one had a bit less luck with the ASIC chip on it.

Amps drawn are between 2.2 - 2.5.
The fans are powered through a separate powered usb hub so that i'm a 100% sure they won't cause any interference. Now i just got to wait for the new shipment to get here Sad

BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.
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March 18, 2018, 03:30:13 PM
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Currently i've got them running at 900mhz, i gotta say, the MLD's run smooth and stable!!

The newly placed win10 laptop and wifi connection is a different story though. Hope i got that fixed and have stopped win 10 auto updates.
Currently am using fans from HAMA and Arctic:
https://myalbum.com/photo/YYpBYBz2WhwT/360.jpg

And this is them running after a reboot of the laptop:
https://myalbum.com/photo/2oJzVhwSK6Tb/360.jpg

With these fans the temps seem to stay between 42-54 degrees celsius. (2 ara within the 42-45 degree range, one runs a lot hotter maybe this one had a bit less luck with the ASIC chip on it.

Amps drawn are between 2.2 - 2.5.
The fans are powered through a separate powered usb hub so that i'm a 100% sure they won't cause any interference. Now i just got to wait for the new shipment to get here Sad

BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.

Would not MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc be assigned to a particular USB port and stay there after the initial setup?
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March 18, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
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Currently i've got them running at 900mhz, i gotta say, the MLD's run smooth and stable!!

The newly placed win10 laptop and wifi connection is a different story though. Hope i got that fixed and have stopped win 10 auto updates.
Currently am using fans from HAMA and Arctic:


And this is them running after a reboot of the laptop:


With these fans the temps seem to stay between 42-54 degrees celsius. (2 ara within the 42-45 degree range, one runs a lot hotter maybe this one had a bit less luck with the ASIC chip on it.

Amps drawn are between 2.2 - 2.5.
The fans are powered through a separate powered usb hub so that i'm a 100% sure they won't cause any interference. Now i just got to wait for the new shipment to get here Sad

BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.

Would not MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc be assigned to a particular USB port and stay there after the initial setup?
Not as far as i can tell Sad when taking out one of the MLDs to adjust voltage it gets assigned a different number...
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BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.

Moonlanders have UIDs as well. Just press "M" while its running, then select the device number you want, and it will show its ID under serial number. You can then match the last couple digits to the actual serial number sticker on each device.

Next update will also have enable/disable functions implemented, so that will be another way to quickly check which is which since toggling enable/disable will cause the LEDs to flash.

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FutureBit Moonlander 2 USB Scrypt Stick Miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2125643.0
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BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.

Moonlanders have UIDs as well. Just press "M" while its running, then select the device number you want, and it will show its ID under serial number. You can then match the last couple digits to the actual serial number sticker on each device.

Next update will also have enable/disable functions implemented, so that will be another way to quickly check which is which since toggling enable/disable will cause the LEDs to flash.

When do you think the next update will come out?
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sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

here's a raspi user, currently driving 3 moonlander2 and an old rpi2 for bfgminer off a 'rather pricey' and very powerful USB hub at 796, above they become unstable in a rather unpredictable way. i suspect the usb WLAN dongle i have to use in my setup as a part of the problem - i think i read about USB bus saturation being a possible problem SOMEWHERE, but didn't debug in this direction any further yet...

anyways, the basic setup worked like a breeze. plug your MLDs in, run bfgminer as described in a lot of places, watch your MLDs have fun. however 9 more moonlanders are on their way to me, and i am eager to see if i can drive all i then have reliably with a bunch of hubs and one rpi3, which will eliminate the need of a seperate dongle.

considering that could actually fail, i have a bunch of rpi2 around, and a bananapi routerboard (BPI-R1). i'm kinda sure i'll find a way to make it work reliably, somehow.

sweet, i might be slightly better off as the odroid is usb 3, I'm looking at this hub:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/icybox-ib-ac6702-7-port-usb-30-hub-7-charging-ports-led-amp-digital-display?v=c

I'm worried about this line though:
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The USB 3.0 ports on this hub are special because all of them can load any connected mobile devices with up to 2.4 A. The intelligent chipset determines the best charging rate for all models.

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found some cheaper hubs from a company called orico claim 36 watt on a 10 port, 12v 3a psu

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March 19, 2018, 09:14:40 AM
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sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

here's a raspi user, currently driving 3 moonlander2 and an old rpi2 for bfgminer off a 'rather pricey' and very powerful USB hub at 796, above they become unstable in a rather unpredictable way. i suspect the usb WLAN dongle i have to use in my setup as a part of the problem - i think i read about USB bus saturation being a possible problem SOMEWHERE, but didn't debug in this direction any further yet...

anyways, the basic setup worked like a breeze. plug your MLDs in, run bfgminer as described in a lot of places, watch your MLDs have fun. however 9 more moonlanders are on their way to me, and i am eager to see if i can drive all i then have reliably with a bunch of hubs and one rpi3, which will eliminate the need of a seperate dongle.

considering that could actually fail, i have a bunch of rpi2 around, and a bananapi routerboard (BPI-R1). i'm kinda sure i'll find a way to make it work reliably, somehow.

sweet, i might be slightly better off as the odroid is usb 3, I'm looking at this hub:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/icybox-ib-ac6702-7-port-usb-30-hub-7-charging-ports-led-amp-digital-display?v=c

I'm worried about this line though:
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The USB 3.0 ports on this hub are special because all of them can load any connected mobile devices with up to 2.4 A. The intelligent chipset determines the best charging rate for all models.

[edit]

found some cheaper hubs from a company called orico claim 36 watt on a 10 port, 12v 3a psu


There's a better deal... 13 port ones... 60W 2.1 A per port. Fits 7 MLDs at 700MHz
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sorry had a bad night thanks for the response, same architecture as a pi really was hoping some pi users were about

here's a raspi user, currently driving 3 moonlander2 and an old rpi2 for bfgminer off a 'rather pricey' and very powerful USB hub at 796, above they become unstable in a rather unpredictable way. i suspect the usb WLAN dongle i have to use in my setup as a part of the problem - i think i read about USB bus saturation being a possible problem SOMEWHERE, but didn't debug in this direction any further yet...

anyways, the basic setup worked like a breeze. plug your MLDs in, run bfgminer as described in a lot of places, watch your MLDs have fun. however 9 more moonlanders are on their way to me, and i am eager to see if i can drive all i then have reliably with a bunch of hubs and one rpi3, which will eliminate the need of a seperate dongle.

considering that could actually fail, i have a bunch of rpi2 around, and a bananapi routerboard (BPI-R1). i'm kinda sure i'll find a way to make it work reliably, somehow.

shameless self-reply: the 3 ASICs run stable at 900, when i point a fan at them. it's not USB bus saturation, it's temperature. waiting for the rest to arrive today, hopefully.
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There's a better deal... 13 port ones... 60W 2.1 A per port. Fits 7 MLDs at 700MHz

damn I already ordered the 10 port, oh well only got 5 of these on the way atm

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shameless self-reply: the 3 ASICs run stable at 900, when i point a fan at them. it's not USB bus saturation, it's temperature. waiting for the rest to arrive today, hopefully.

do these little guys get quite hot then? the hub i ordered has an Aluminium body hopefully help with heat dissipation

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BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.

Moonlanders have UIDs as well. Just press "M" while its running, then select the device number you want, and it will show its ID under serial number. You can then match the last couple digits to the actual serial number sticker on each device.
Hehe, if it was that easy: I regularly have that bfgminer fails to recognise the type of device and thereby extract the serial number, BUT it still hashes away!
I also used the bfgminer debug mode to look in more detail and see it happens when the usb/com ports are pinged. It finds the port but not what is attached to it. Still it starts hashing, without knowing what is attached to it.

Next update will also have enable/disable functions implemented, so that will be another way to quickly check which is which since toggling enable/disable will cause the LEDs to flash.
I have something weird: I have one MLD flashing red LED but it doesn't show up in bfgminer!! That means it kept hashing but probably got disconnected from bfgminer. It is not in bfgminer anymore, bfgminer is one MLD short. I don't know when it happened or how it happened. I am not sure exactly which physical device it is. Later today I will just restart bfgminer and it probably will get connected again.
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Hi I have 6 fb ml2 powered by a block erupter hub. I can never get all 6 to mine. One always seems to drop to khs. Does anyone no why this is? They all work separately but a different one will fail each time they all mine together.
Also is there a way to program bfg miner on Linux to restart a miner if it drops below a hash-rate as it is not auto restarting. I have tried lowering the frequency but one will still start to drop hash rate after a while.
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BTW; @jstefanop:
What i'd love to see in BFGminer / the MLD's if possible; a way to identify them. BFG sets them up as MLD 0, MLD 1, MLD 2.... etc. But there's no way of telling (as far as i am aware of) to figure out which stick is MLD 0 or MLD 1 etc. Troubleshooting can be made so much simpler with unique ID's. After a reboot, the ID's get swapped now so MLD 0 could then be MLD 2 etc. I know that my gridseed dual miners had unique ID's, so if you plugged them in 1 at a time, you could make a note of which ID that miner had and if there ever was a problem you knew exactly which miner to fix.

Moonlanders have UIDs as well. Just press "M" while its running, then select the device number you want, and it will show its ID under serial number. You can then match the last couple digits to the actual serial number sticker on each device.

Next update will also have enable/disable functions implemented, so that will be another way to quickly check which is which since toggling enable/disable will cause the LEDs to flash.
thanks for the advice! That will definitely help Smiley Looking forward for the next update, that will make it even easier to troubleshoot.
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