Official FutureBit Moonlander 2 Driver and Support Thread

[dvsrk]

New driver release is out, sorry for the delay and thanks for being patient. I added some last minute debugging code to better help people with issue and rule out any hardware problems. The compile binaries include the big restart fix, so these should technically hash forever without needing any manual restarts (as long as the power supply is semi-stable and you haven't really screwed up the voltages).

Let me know if the binaries run fine on respective systems...might have mis-compiled something while trying to keep track of every architecture  

https://github.com/jstefanop/bfgminer/releases/tag/bfgminer-5.4.2-futurebit2-beta2

Perfect, It was doing awesome on windows-10 x86 ....  

https://imgur.com/a/Pdzek

[RdStrcklnd]

New driver release is out, sorry for the delay and thanks for being patient. I added some last minute debugging code to better help people with issue and rule out any hardware problems. The compile binaries include the big restart fix, so these should technically hash forever without needing any manual restarts (as long as the power supply is semi-stable and you haven't really screwed up the voltages).

Let me know if the binaries run fine on respective systems...might have mis-compiled something while trying to keep track of every architecture 

https://github.com/jstefanop/bfgminer/releases/tag/bfgminer-5.4.2-futurebit2-beta2

Ok Astrali, how do I replace the old driver with this new one? 

[wavelengthsf]

New driver working well on Win10

[thebosz]

Just stuck the new driver on my Rasp Pi 2 and it's working fine!

If you're seeing a lot of "restarting" messages, your settings aren't quite working. I did more adjusting to the voltages ans now have it running at a steady 5.3 Mh/s. I'm not sure about temps but when I touch it, it doesn't immediately burn me.

I should probably get a thermometer...

Anyway, thanks jstefanop for your awesome work and dedication!

[wavelengthsf]

So this is a noob question, but I'm pretty new to mining with BFGMiner.

BS is Best Share, right? If it says 21, but the log reports an accepted for 71m/27m, shouldn't best share be 71?

Or does the m mean something other than "mega" like it would in cgminer?

[sunk818]

So this is a noob question, but I'm pretty new to mining with BFGMiner.

BS is Best Share, right? If it says 21, but the log reports an accepted for 71m/27m, shouldn't best share be 71?

Or does the m mean something other than "mega" like it would in cgminer?

Yeah, I confused scrypt with cgminer SHA256 values.

71m is the same as 0.071. So, 21 is a greater value than .071. m means milli (1/1000th).

[wavelengthsf]

So this is a noob question, but I'm pretty new to mining with BFGMiner.

BS is Best Share, right? If it says 21, but the log reports an accepted for 71m/27m, shouldn't best share be 71?

Or does the m mean something other than "mega" like it would in cgminer?

Yeah, I confused scrypt with cgminer SHA256 values.

27m is the same as .027 if you're converting it to SHA256. So, 21 is a greater value than .027. m means milli (1/1000th).

Big M like 3.03M I think means million (as in network difficulty of LiteCoin).

Thanks! That helps a lot. Would be awesome if I was getting 126M shares instead of 126m shares

[jstefanop]

So this is a noob question, but I'm pretty new to mining with BFGMiner.

BS is Best Share, right? If it says 21, but the log reports an accepted for 71m/27m, shouldn't best share be 71?

Or does the m mean something other than "mega" like it would in cgminer?

No its 21 SHA256 shares which are 2^16 larger than scrypt shares. bfgminer was coded for bitcoin originally so this was never updated. I should probably update bfgminer's front end to differentiate between scrypt and SHA256 shares visual wise, but thats something for when I have spare time...which I have zero of these days :/

71m/27m is "milli" shares i.e. .0071/.0027 * 2^16 ~ 465/177 scrypt shares

[wavelengthsf]

No its 21 SHA256 shares which are 2^16 larger than scrypt shares. bfgminer was coded for bitcoin originally so this was never updated. I should probably update bfgminer's front end to differentiate between scrypt and SHA256 shares visual wise, but thats something for when I have spare time...which I have zero of these days :/

71m/27m is "milli" shares i.e. .0071/.0027 * 2^16 ~ 465/177 scrypt shares

I remember cgminer used to say the same thing when mining with my GPUs back in 2014, so I knew there was a difference in it. Thanks again!

[hercthx]

First Impressions..VERY nice!, I like that [attempting restart] if the MLD doesn't init correctly on first run! Kicked 2 of my MLDs into gear where before I know I would have had to do a re-init!

[Freight]

New beta version is working great! Thanks jstefanop.  

[sunk818]

So this is a noob question, but I'm pretty new to mining with BFGMiner.

BS is Best Share, right? If it says 21, but the log reports an accepted for 71m/27m, shouldn't best share be 71?

Or does the m mean something other than "mega" like it would in cgminer?

No its 21 SHA256 shares which are 2^16 larger than scrypt shares. bfgminer was coded for bitcoin originally so this was never updated. I should probably update bfgminer's front end to differentiate between scrypt and SHA256 shares visual wise, but thats something for when I have spare time...which I have zero of these days :/

71m/27m is "milli" shares i.e. .0071/.0027 * 2^16 ~ 465/177 scrypt shares

I thought milli meant 1000? Wouldn't 71m mean the value is 0.071? 71 / 1000? 4653 scrypt shares? Maybe my math and understanding is off?

[Dischg]

So what is the sweet spot in temp that people are encountering? Speed vs. errors and lock ups?

You might want to get an Antminer L3+ if you want to generate more heat (and noise). These aren't going to warm up your room. I have ten ML2 running and they barely generate a swarm breeze @ 832Mhz.

True! Very true. I have an S9 on the way (eventually), but I can't have that much noise in my office. Too many phone calls. It's not that I was expecting these dinky little things to warm my room. My office is the last radiator on the system so heat just trickles in here. I was hoping that if I ran a bunch of the ASICs day and night, it would give just a little more heat and then my toes will be happy.

[MrDogecoin]

https://github.com/jstefanop/bfgminer/releases/tag/bfgminer-5.4.2-futurebit2-beta2

Still bfgminer is stuck with 99% CPU workload on XP SP3 32bit....


EDIT: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

It´s working!!!!!

I set both exe + bat to Windows 2000 compatibility mode and voila it´s running.....

Maybe that helps you to find the cause?

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I managed to install Bodhi Linux but I´m completely overchallenged in installing... anything?

It would be so, so, so, so..... cool being able to use my Windows XP device.... Is there any hope you might take a look at least?

[wavelengthsf]

https://github.com/jstefanop/bfgminer/releases/tag/bfgminer-5.4.2-futurebit2-beta2

Still bfgminer is stuck with 99% CPU workload on XP SP3 32bit....

I managed to install Bodhi Linux but I´m completely overchallenged in installing... anything?

It would be so, so, so, so..... cool being able to use my Windows XP device.... Is there any hope you might take a look at least?

Could you try to install Ubuntu? I know Ubuntu runs on lots of older hardware..

[jstefanop]

https://github.com/jstefanop/bfgminer/releases/tag/bfgminer-5.4.2-futurebit2-beta2

Still bfgminer is stuck with 99% CPU workload on XP SP3 32bit....

I managed to install Bodhi Linux but I´m completely overchallenged in installing... anything?

It would be so, so, so, so..... cool being able to use my Windows XP device.... Is there any hope you might take a look at least?

Windows XP is nearing 2 decades old, and even Microsoft stopped supporting it years ago...you can't expect a new miner in 2017 to support it, I have no way of testing it even if I wanted to (which I don't...I hate windows ).

Like others have said, install Ubuntu on the old hardware, its one of the easiest to use linux distro's  (has a modern GUI). All you have to do is just download the linux binary after you install it and it should work out of the box.

[racebyu]

Does this new software just address the restart issue?
I have no problem running the older version when a higher current supply is used on the hub.
I do have some issues with Stale submissions that comes and goes between blocks?
Getting around 5Mh per x 5 and running at 876 in BFG miner bat file, extra usb fan for cooling.

[pwkad]

Hi I'm on OSX 10.12.6 is there any way to tell if it suffers the same issues as 10.13?  The script is not finding the plugged in miner for me, I'll try going through the readme again to see if I missed a step somewhere but wanted to see if there was a place to check to see if the right driver was used or w/e.

Thanks again for this project!

[MrDogecoin]

Windows XP is nearing 2 decades old, and even Microsoft stopped supporting it years ago...you can't expect a new miner in 2017 to support it, I have no way of testing it even if I wanted to (which I don't...I hate windows ).

Like others have said, install Ubuntu on the old hardware, its one of the easiest to use linux distro's  (has a modern GUI). All you have to do is just download the linux binary after you install it and it should work out of the box.

Well, the thing is that it´s working now flawlessly!!

I just activated Windows 2000 compatibility mode for both exe and bat files.
Now it´s perfect and I´m happy.

[lennyNO]

>> Does this new software just address the restart issue?

From the release notes: "This update fixes a few bugs and adds better support for multiple sticks on a hub. The update is recommended for everyone since it adds much needed low level restart logic."

>> I have no problem running the older version when a higher current supply is used on the hub.

Me neither, until the odd moment one MLD stops, or, for some reason, they all stop. Which has happened to me once every few days. I cannot babysit these units all the time, so being able to run them unsupervised for a long time without is very very useful.

>> Getting around 5Mh per x 5 and running at 876 in BFG miner bat file, extra usb fan for cooling.

Same here. Note that hashrate = 5.66 x clockfrequency, so 876x5.66= 5Mh/s (if all cores are working). I had to trim the core voltage a bit more compared to my previous 832Mhz. I tried first 856, then I got a bit more HW errors, then 876 and a lot more HW errors (>> 1%), that gave me an idea how much to change the core voltage pot. Now it is steady at just below 1% error rate. I have got two small but powerfull USB fans blowing on them, keeps them cool. I have 6 units, and 5 more on their way (thanks to jstefanop for finding time last monday to ship them over!!!).

With ~11 MLD2's one reaches (imho) the limit of what makes sense before it is time to move up the big step to an Antminer L3+, these are about 3x more costefficient (MH/unit_cost). With the expected increases in hashing power over the next 6mo, returns will fade fast (unless the price of LTC goes to the sky).