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July 02, 2014, 02:13:32 AM |
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Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage. Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma
I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin. Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases. Excellent point!- And I rather like your game idea a lot. I would not say this is out of the realm of possibility at all. Don't listen to the nay sayers- there are people working actively on the gaming/mining idea trying to make it a reality.
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July 02, 2014, 02:41:36 AM |
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Thanks for the comments - indeed we will not do anything radical or fundamentally stupid like PoS - i hope you like our solutions when they come. : )
can you add a 4-6 digit password on the qrk mobile wallet for essential operations ? I asked Hash Engineering about this, he states that he is hopeful that Andreas Schildbach will add it to the Bitcoin Wallet- Hopefully soon- Because Quarks Wallet is based on the Schildbach wallets coding/features, we will have to wait a bit on this one. Currently there is no Android wallet app with this feature..
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July 02, 2014, 02:42:08 AM |
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
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July 02, 2014, 11:06:15 AM |
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto.
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July 02, 2014, 12:49:24 PM |
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Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage. Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma
I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin. Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases. My words: Quark is not collapsing You start your phrase with: I had no idea Quark is collapsing Secondary , right now bitcoin is printing far more coins than quark , quark is at 1% inflation while bitcoin is at 10%. So , all your mumbo jumbo from the first paragraph is flawed. Third , let's compare how many merchants accepted quark this year and how many bitcoin this week. Comparing quark to bitcoin is a lost battle.
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July 02, 2014, 12:54:21 PM |
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto. Another wishful thinking. Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game. Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game. How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100?
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July 02, 2014, 01:40:49 PM |
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto. Another wishful thinking. Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game. Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game. How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100? How many people also depends how well it gets promoted and the ShaqFu team seems very open in promoting Quark to its gamers. Also what matters is that Crypto for the first time managed to find it's way through the top gaming scene where new items, updates can be paid with Crypto with much lower fees than paypal/debitcards/creditcards. This also brings gaming and Crypto closer to eachother. It's a nice experiment and we all should get behind it. An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this.
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July 02, 2014, 01:48:09 PM |
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto. Another wishful thinking. Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game. Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game. How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100? How many people also depends how well it gets promoted and the ShaqFu team seems very open in promoting Quark to its gamers. Also what matters is that Crypto for the first time managed to find it's way through the top gaming scene where new items, updates can be paid with Crypto with much lower fees than paypal/debitcards/creditcards. This also brings gaming and Crypto closer to eachother. It's a nice experiment and we all should get behind it. An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this. Now I see an avalanche of ideas released. Why haven't this been done in the last 6 months of freefall since December? Are we waiting for shaq fu like another Jesus? What if this fails?
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July 02, 2014, 01:52:37 PM |
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Quark is not collapsing because people don't want to sell it , but those people will also not use it as paying for something because they want their coin to go up so there will be no usage. Reminds me of a twisted version of prisoner dilemma
I had no idea Quark is collapsing :-) you remind me of some bitcoin-haters that said couple of months ago that it will collapse and will reach $10. No point hating a coin for the simple reason its different from Bitcoin. Regarding your point about consumption I would rather attribute that to deflationary currencies than inflationary ones like Quark because if I hold 1 btc now I'm more incentivised to keep it till it'll reach a certain price in 6-12 months, while if I hold 1 qrk I know the value won't go up in price alot more because the protocol will create more quarks each year so I rather hold more faith in an inflationary currency for day-2 day transactions than a deflationary one, right ? I mean, all bitcoiners - myself included, are waiting for the moon so we can dump it and buy a island, but with Quark I don't have those aspirations and I only hope it'll be accepted at more merchants so I can use it for my internet purchases. My words: Quark is not collapsing You start your phrase with: I had no idea Quark is collapsing Secondary , right now bitcoin is printing far more coins than quark , quark is at 1% inflation while bitcoin is at 10%. So , all your mumbo jumbo from the first paragraph is flawed. Third , let's compare how many merchants accepted quark this year and how many bitcoin this week. Comparing quark to bitcoin is a lost battle. Your words Quark is not collapsing because .... , but I've put more emphasis on your `but`so maybe I've misunderstood what you were saying between the lines. Secondly, Bitcoin is a deflationary currency which makes my mumbo jumbo extremely accurate because a finite supply will always go either boom or doom. An inflationary currency like Quark has the potential to be used as a day to day medium of exchange but also a store of value for short-medium term, thus making Quark war with Bitcoin almost impossible but not lost. Thirdly, merchants are more likely to accept a currency which has a relatively solid liquidity like Bitcoin than to accept Quark which trades so low that it wouldn't meet a local shop requirements lol, however lets see in few more years when the generations of bitcoins drops to a halt, lets see then how much liquidity Bitcoin will have then, people like me will rather hold long their bitcoin position than making day to day purchases. I hold more hope in Quark for the daily purchases having the fastest confirmation time for transactions and also inflationary status. The current battles are all won by Bitcoin and I'm glad it happens so because mainstream adoption will make people understand crypto currencies, only then the real war between cryto coins will begin.
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July 02, 2014, 01:58:58 PM |
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An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this.
good ideas, keep them coming, maybe some enthusiast quarkers will pick them up and build on them
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July 02, 2014, 02:02:03 PM |
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If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten.
Years? In this crypto world a year means a geological era.
And your claim that it is the fastest coin is no longer accurate. And it never was . There are coins with 15 seconds confirmations already on the market and enough with 30 seconds block. Besides , this can be achieved with a hard fork also by bitcoin so it's a temporary advantage.
It the coins wants to succeed it needs something more than waiting for the miracle.
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July 02, 2014, 02:06:36 PM |
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If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten.
That could be true but I wouldn't place a bet on it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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July 02, 2014, 02:11:31 PM |
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If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten.
That could be true but I wouldn't place a bet on it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I think there was a website that compared tweets facebook posts and reddit posts/users I wonder how quark is doing against the new crytos that are now the new hype. I'll check it out when i find it in my bookmarks mess.
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An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this.
good ideas, keep them coming, maybe some enthusiast quarkers will pick them up and build on them For these ideas the game has to come out first, shaquille o'neal himself will probably do a short video on quark as well so that's pretty cool also
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QRK isn't going to go anywhere fast so long as there is no development funding and no full time marketing, project/services and development team. QRK has some big advantages over most other alts but the block reward scaling and lack of development fund are big problems. I don't see any way of fixing those other than what i have suggested before. Long term QRK could do well since the core team does tend to pull big things off out of the blue. Short term i see nothing really changing. This is kind of worrying to say the least, since when qrk is worth nothing it will be far more difficult to pay external devs, project managers etc when you need millions for a few btc.
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July 02, 2014, 02:17:51 PM |
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And your claim that it is the fastest coin is no longer accurate. And it never was .
I think we misunderstand each other, I meant alot faster confirmation time than Bitcoin but also faster confirmation time than 90% of the top 20 current coins. If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten. ... It the coins wants to succeed it needs something more than waiting for the miracle.
I think Quark already satisfies a lot of basic needs for quarkers like inflation and transaction times, I'm really not waiting for an miracle I know price is going down so nothing much worse can happen. From here on any news is good news, the fact that Quark has a dedicated platform for trading Quark coins QEX is great, the fact that a game is being worked at which includes Quark coins is also great. If you're waiting for a miracle I really don't know what you're waiting for, not even Bitcoin hasn't reached mass audience and its being promoted all over the place for 2-3 years now and you're expecting an altcoin to succeed in couple of weeks? months ? You need to lower your standards ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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erm. huntercoin has a game built directly into it and its blockchain. Quark cant beat that sorry
lol what kind of game? Quarks half million dollar game will be distributed to non tech and casual gamers who use pc and console outside the Crypto community which is great for spreading the word for the sake of Crypto. Another wishful thinking. Quark will be used a "one" of the payment options in the game. Less than 10% of the gamers that play diablo have a paypal account. Only a few decided to open one (and we're taking about diablo 3) because of the game. How many will start learning about quark based on this average game? 20, 100? How many people also depends how well it gets promoted and the ShaqFu team seems very open in promoting Quark to its gamers. Also what matters is that Crypto for the first time managed to find it's way through the top gaming scene where new items, updates can be paid with Crypto with much lower fees than paypal/debitcards/creditcards. This also brings gaming and Crypto closer to eachother. It's a nice experiment and we all should get behind it. An example of promotion is making a legit video on how to buy items with Quark and put on Youtube. Or get the well known guy, youtube gaming channels, magazines to talk about it. Or like couple suggested before make a replica of the quark power gauntlet and send a cosplay to gaming conventions, so promotion can also play a rol in this. Now I see an avalanche of ideas released. Why haven't this been done in the last 6 months of freefall since December? Are we waiting for shaq fu like another Jesus? What if this fails? For these ideas i think the game should be introduced first. For the rest is that the guys are active and working on things, but they can't be introduced to the public yet because if they don't deliver it wouldn't be a good thing giving false hopes. I am not part of the dev team btw, but a mod at quarks subreddit.
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July 02, 2014, 03:01:17 PM |
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And your claim that it is the fastest coin is no longer accurate. And it never was .
I think we misunderstand each other, I meant alot faster confirmation time than Bitcoin but also faster confirmation time than 90% of the top 20 current coins. If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten. ... It the coins wants to succeed it needs something more than waiting for the miracle.
I think Quark already satisfies a lot of basic needs for quarkers like inflation and transaction times, I'm really not waiting for an miracle I know price is going down so nothing much worse can happen. From here on any news is good news, the fact that Quark has a dedicated platform for trading Quark coins QEX is great, the fact that a game is being worked at which includes Quark coins is also great. If you're waiting for a miracle I really don't know what you're waiting for, not even Bitcoin hasn't reached mass audience and its being promoted all over the place for 2-3 years now and you're expecting an altcoin to succeed in couple of weeks? months ? You need to lower your standards ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Show me one happy investor in quark and I will agree with you. Read a few pages back when all that people say .."i still hodl" , "I hope" etc. Quark right now is useless and is used only for speculation. Transactions last 24h 623 ? http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/tweets-doge-qrk.htmlHoping and hoping and clinging to coins. That's why the coin has failed. Because everyone is packing coins and not using them
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July 02, 2014, 05:55:53 PM |
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And your claim that it is the fastest coin is no longer accurate. And it never was .
I think we misunderstand each other, I meant alot faster confirmation time than Bitcoin but also faster confirmation time than 90% of the top 20 current coins. If quark doen't make a serious move in a few weeks not years it will be forgotten. ... It the coins wants to succeed it needs something more than waiting for the miracle.
I think Quark already satisfies a lot of basic needs for quarkers like inflation and transaction times, I'm really not waiting for an miracle I know price is going down so nothing much worse can happen. From here on any news is good news, the fact that Quark has a dedicated platform for trading Quark coins QEX is great, the fact that a game is being worked at which includes Quark coins is also great. If you're waiting for a miracle I really don't know what you're waiting for, not even Bitcoin hasn't reached mass audience and its being promoted all over the place for 2-3 years now and you're expecting an altcoin to succeed in couple of weeks? months ? You need to lower your standards ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Show me one happy investor in quark and I will agree with you. Read a few pages back when all that people say .."i still hodl" , "I hope" etc. Quark right now is useless and is used only for speculation. Transactions last 24h 623 ? http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/tweets-doge-qrk.htmlHoping and hoping and clinging to coins. That's why the coin has failed. Because everyone is packing coins and not using them Show me one happy Litecoin/peercoin/Namecoin/Novacoin/Terracoin/Dogecoin investor since they have been going down for ages. All these new coins dogecoin included were lucky they weren't there when Bitcoin crashed
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