HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s

[jjiimm_64]

What an f'ing mess.  

Although there are things that only HF knows, assuming the company really has a working miner, lately I keep concluding that Hashfast's least worst option is to double down on the MPP.  If they don't, it's not a question of if they will be sued, it's only a question of when - January 3, 4, 5? Or shortly thereafter. And the likelihood of those suits being more expensive and damaging to HF than "giving away" extra boards is high.

If they can just put working miners in peoples' hands in the next few days and, having done that, unambiguously pledge enough more MPP boards (like 8x or something) delivered faster to MPP customers, then it's going to defuse 85, 90, 95% of the bloodlust.  And they can compete with KNC et al moving forward without the dark cloud of hate hovering over them.

I don't see many other options.  Stonewalling and abusing your customers ala BFL just isn't going to work for the boys from San Francisco.

This is not a bad idea.... I would probably still be a BFL customer if they had just gone the extra mile and gave the june2012 customers something extra...  ( i didn't even get, or want my 25% coupon)

if HF gives me 8 times instead of 4 times.. I would be a very happy customer !

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[cedivad]

Btw my lawyer says that while there can be multiple actions from the same lawyer with several little customers, there can't be class actions against HF. In other words, i don't think i have any suggestion to everyone who ordered only 1 unit (and i'm really sorry of being unable to help).

[perezoso]

20. ENTIRE AGREEMENT; SEVERABILITY. These Terms, together with the order confirmation(s) sent from Hashfast to Buyer, are the entire agreement between Buyer and Hashfast with respect to its subject matter and supersedes all prior oral and written understandings, communications, or agreements between Buyer and Hashfast.

I can't see how that can be legal, but as I stated I would like an expert opinion.

What it is trying to say is that if I called John before I made a purchase, and he told me something misleading, that the TOS agreement replaces anything he told me.  But that only applies to purchase made under that version of the TOS (and may not be legally enforceable, if John told you some whopper lie that you can document).

Again, it doesn't matter if Hashfast revises the TOS 94,183 times and writes in Viking runes or Hindi.  The version of the TOS that governs your purchase is the version of the TOS that you agreed to when you made the purchase - not any subsequent revision.

In other words, subsequent revisions are not applicable to your purchase.

(Somewhat confounding that - Hashfast had one version of the TOS online when I ordered, and then sent me a different version of the TOS with my order confirmation!  Morons!)

[jjiimm_64]

Btw my lawyer says that while there can be multiple actions from the same lawyer with several little customers, there can't be class actions against HF. In other words, i don't think i have any suggestion to everyone who ordered only 1 unit (and i'm really sorry of being unable to help).

The ONLY winners of class action law suits... are the lawyers, lets face it.

[cedivad]

If HF comes out giving 8x the MPP it will be in August, and in the meanwhile they will own your asses.

What it is trying to say is that if I called John before I made a purchase, and he told me something misleading, that the TOS agreement replaces anything he told me.  But that only applies to purchase made under that version of the TOS (and may not be legally enforceable, if John told you some whopper lie).

Mine doesn't have those terms. It's something recent.

Btw, from my invoice, on the total of costs:

x BTC
[$y USD]

(they acknowledge there too that they own me BTC)

[perezoso]

If HF comes out giving 8x the MPP it will be in August, and in the meanwhile they will own your asses.

August delivery would clearly be too late to accept.

[ninjarobot]

(Somewhat confounding that - Hashfast had one version of the TOS online when I ordered, and then sent me a different version of the TOS with my order confirmation!  Morons!)

This is not an accident. I received a 2nd 'order confirmation' a week after my purchase that came with the updated 'guaranteed delivery' date and some more legal boiler plate that was absent in the one I agreed to a week before.

It is also not an accident that they removed versioning & dates from their online ToS. This way the customer is not even aware of which ToS they agreed to.

Be honest HF.

[Hoofprint]

If HF comes out giving 8x the MPP it will be in August, and in the meanwhile they will own your asses.

August delivery would clearly be too late to accept.

If Scamfast posted my rig right this second with DHL international overnight express shipping.
It would cost them roughly $740(US) in postage fees, estimated delivery on the 7th Jan.

Thats postage to Aus, id hate to be living in some 3rd word country instead 

[JWU42]

I did speak to someone at HF today.  They claim to be preparing a mass e-mail to Batch 1 customers later this evening or tomorrow morning.

[cedivad]

I did speak to someone at HF today.  They claim to be preparing a mass e-mail to Batch 1 customers later this evening or tomorrow morning.

I don't think them to be technically capable of putting a fedex tracking number in a mass email. So it will be just an email. (and you will receive your tracking from trackingupdates@fedex.com).

[jjiimm_64]

I did speak to someone at HF today.  They claim to be preparing a mass e-mail to Batch 1 customers later this evening or tomorrow morning.

I don't think them to be technically capable of putting a fedex tracking number in a mass email. So it will be just an email. (and you will receive your tracking from trackingupdates@fedex.com).

agreed.. i was told 'fed ex will be sending you your tracking id.' over the phone a few days ago.. along with 'we will be sending out the units between xmas and the 31st.

[JWU42]

I did speak to someone at HF today.  They claim to be preparing a mass e-mail to Batch 1 customers later this evening or tomorrow morning.

I don't think them to be technically capable of putting a fedex tracking number in a mass email. So it will be just an email. (and you will receive your tracking from trackingupdates@fedex.com).

I never meant to insinuate that it would have tracking information (as that is customer specific and not feasible to send in a mass e-mail).  This will be more a general update - similar to what they have provided in the past.

[Hoofprint]

I did speak to someone at HF today.  They claim to be preparing a mass e-mail to Batch 1 customers later this evening or tomorrow morning.

I don't think them to be technically capable of putting a fedex tracking number in a mass email. So it will be just an email. (and you will receive your tracking from trackingupdates@fedex.com).

i think it will be an email saying theres going to be a delay due to Eddie, John and Cara having a holiday in some non extradition country in his brand new Scamfast yacht.

[cedivad]

I'm having so much fun in the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386532.0) that i will hash what i think there will be in this update to see if i'm starting to think like them or what... Will release the text after the email. Hash: df41ff368b9def5d2368f11c5bc09650d18a8d62d013f2ee6d5d3e6eb85e3aed

[Internet151]

I just talked with someone from hashfast today and they claim batch #1 begins shipping Friday.

[joshv06]

I just talked with someone from hashfast today and they claim batch #1 begins shipping Friday.

Tomorrow Friday?

[jddebug]

Hashfast,

Please provide Watts and hashrate per module or per Babyjet/Sierra. I've been asking for weeks and in both emails and skype been told you'll get it for me but still nothing.

If your shipping in the next day or so I HAVE to get those numbers to get my electrician the right information so I can actually plug them in.

Thank you

[HarrisonS]

Hashfast,

Please provide Watts and hashrate per module or per Babyjet/Sierra. I've been asking for weeks and in both emails and skype been told you'll get it for me but still nothing.

If your shipping in the next day or so I HAVE to get those numbers to get my electrician the right information so I can actually plug them in.

Thank you

I called them today, and they told me they are still at .65W/GH +- 20%

[joshv06]

Hashfast,

Please provide Watts and hashrate per module or per Babyjet/Sierra. I've been asking for weeks and in both emails and skype been told you'll get it for me but still nothing.

If your shipping in the next day or so I HAVE to get those numbers to get my electrician the right information so I can actually plug them in.

Thank you

http://youtu.be/ecCQ9w0qV8k?t=25s

[stan258]

Hashfast,

Please provide Watts and hashrate per module or per Babyjet/Sierra. I've been asking for weeks and in both emails and skype been told you'll get it for me but still nothing.

If your shipping in the next day or so I HAVE to get those numbers to get my electrician the right information so I can actually plug them in.

Thank you

I called them today, and they told me they are still at .65W/GH +- 20%

Web site says 1 watt per...