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January 01, 2014, 02:56:33 PM
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I don't think it will be of any real use (not in my case at least, I've already decided that i will go against them), but let's do it. (0.01BTC here?)

would also pay 0.01 btc for this report.

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I just discovered the report is almost empty... I mean, the only information that Experian have about them is already public. I literally paid for a report which is not a report. How nice from Experian to offer empty reports for money.

Sorry for that guys, I will contact the proper channels to obtain a refund.

let us know about the refund to split the costs in case if the refund is not sucessfull.
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January 01, 2014, 02:58:56 PM
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let us know about the refund to split the costs in case if the refund is not sucessfull.

All right. I paid with Paypal, so if I am refused the refund I will open a dispute and certainly win. I will let you know what happens. Thank you for the support.
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January 01, 2014, 03:00:35 PM
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Well looks like people will get a extra 5% for a refund not 500% . HF is asking for another 30 days to ship Oct 2013 Jets.

If I had to guess... their time booked at Ciarra has expired for Batch1 and they won't get access again until the end of January... ergo 30 days.

This is of course speculation, as I have no information other than what they write.
Hopefully they realize how much they have screwed up and when the assembly line re-opens, they just ship B1 with MPP (since it will be past the 90days from Oct 30th).


If another 30 days are needed and batch#1 customers are seriously screwed, i would propose that HF offers some kind of compensation.

This compensation doesnt have to be hurried. Instead they could offer us for example units of their (probably happening) second generation units for free including shipping. Similar to whats Cointerra doing at the moment. They are giving free march Terraminer to their screwed Dec customers. Thats not second generation but it shows how such a situation could be handled between Hashfast and their customers in a satisfying way for both sides.

It seems clear to me that they are way over their heads and don't know what the heck they are doing.

Why do you think a 2nd generation would be any better?
If I thought they had a chance in hell of succeeding, I would demand that my guaranteed 60%+ loss B1 order be cancelled and all the BTC be applied to their next generation.  But... I don't have any confidence in them succeeding there when they failed so clearly and miserably with this generation.

No... I am afraid the best option other than legal is to get the machines as quickly as possible and dig out of the hole as much as possible. Hard lessons... engineering doesn't overcome bad management and businesses hellbent on not ensuring value for their customers.

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January 01, 2014, 03:01:46 PM
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cannot imagine we have such few people which are interested to fight against HF. who has serious interest and willing to pay to get back at least a portion of his invested money?

btw. I believe also the timeframe on Ciara is over for HF. they have to book an another one. this means additional delays.

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January 01, 2014, 03:09:20 PM
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cannot imagine we have such few people which are interested to fight against HF. who has serious interest and willing to pay to get back a at least a portion of his invested money?
i've got serious interests, but i don't believe in group efforts when they'd have to be coordinated internationally, i'm afraid - even less so when it comes to law-stuff.

at least it's getting clearer (for me, personally) that i WILL ask for a refund instead of accepting some hardware at this point. and according to "my" terms of service, the asking-for-refunds-window started today and is open until january 15th, and i'm taking that time to (hopefully) do it right. i'm in contact with a local (german, as far as i'm concerned) lawyer to get some advice how to react (from me to hashfast, directly) in a way that's hopefully/kinda unimpeachable - asking for a refund in btc, full amount that i paid back in november. only afterwards i'll think about suing (or taking other legal actions), i.e. if that other stuff doesn't work.
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January 01, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
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(it's a good repost)

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 01, 2014, 03:13:25 PM
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Well looks like people will get a extra 5% for a refund not 500% . HF is asking for another 30 days to ship Oct 2013 Jets.

If I had to guess... their time booked at Ciarra has expired for Batch1 and they won't get access again until the end of January... ergo 30 days.

This is of course speculation, as I have no information other than what they write.
Hopefully they realize how much they have screwed up and when the assembly line re-opens, they just ship B1 with MPP (since it will be past the 90days from Oct 30th). 


If another 30 days are needed and batch#1 customers are seriously screwed, i would propose that HF offers some kind of compensation.

This compensation doesnt have to be hurried. Instead they could offer us for example units of their (probably happening) second generation units for free including shipping. Similar to whats Cointerra doing at the moment. They are giving free march Terraminer to their screwed Dec customers. Thats not second generation but it shows how such a situation could be handled between Hashfast and their customers in a satisfying way for both sides.

It seems clear to me that they are way over their heads and don't know what the heck they are doing.

Why do you think a 2nd generation would be any better?
If I thought they had a chance in hell of succeeding, I would demand that my guaranteed 60%+ loss B1 order be cancelled and all the BTC be applied to their next generation.  But... I don't have any confidence in them succeeding there when they failed so clearly and miserably with this generation.

No... I am afraid the best option other than legal is to get the machines as quickly as possible and dig out of the hole as much as possible. Hard lessons... engineering doesn't overcome bad management and businessmen hellbent on not ensuring value for their customers.

you dont have to focus on the second generation so much

lets assume they will get over their current problems with their chips etc. why there should be no possibility to order another batch of chips and to bring on an additional MPP??

lets make it 3 x MPP sent to us in may/june. i think that could be very well some solution to this situation.
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January 01, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
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Here's the scammer lawyer who wrote that outrageous "refund policy" document:
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/aettinger
His site: http://scounsel.com/adam-t-ettinger/
Maybe you want to shoot him a message.

On the other issue, what was the name of the HashFast parent company, where HF initialy had their office and who designed the chip? Maybe we should try notifying them and the public the we are aware they are also engaged in a scam? I don't think they would like bringing public attention to them that way, and may reveal some info about things that happened?

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January 01, 2014, 03:18:32 PM
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Well looks like people will get a extra 5% for a refund not 500% . HF is asking for another 30 days to ship Oct 2013 Jets.

If I had to guess... their time booked at Ciarra has expired for Batch1 and they won't get access again until the end of January... ergo 30 days.

This is of course speculation, as I have no information other than what they write.
Hopefully they realize how much they have screwed up and when the assembly line re-opens, they just ship B1 with MPP (since it will be past the 90days from Oct 30th). 


If another 30 days are needed and batch#1 customers are seriously screwed, i would propose that HF offers some kind of compensation.

This compensation doesnt have to be hurried. Instead they could offer us for example units of their (probably happening) second generation units for free including shipping. Similar to whats Cointerra doing at the moment. They are giving free march Terraminer to their screwed Dec customers. Thats not second generation but it shows how such a situation could be handled between Hashfast and their customers in a satisfying way for both sides.



You are already screwed if IceDrill gets all their units before customers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269216.msg4254717#msg4254717

iCEBREAKER is a troll! He and cypherdoc helped HashFast scam 50 Million $ from its customers !
H/w Hosting Directory & Reputation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622998.0
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January 01, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
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They outsourced the design to Uniquify.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 01, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
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They outsourced the design to Uniquify.

So Uniquify was not a parent company? Than why they initially gave HF office space to begin their operations?

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January 01, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
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Well looks like people will get a extra 5% for a refund not 500% . HF is asking for another 30 days to ship Oct 2013 Jets.

If I had to guess... their time booked at Ciarra has expired for Batch1 and they won't get access again until the end of January... ergo 30 days.

This is of course speculation, as I have no information other than what they write.
Hopefully they realize how much they have screwed up and when the assembly line re-opens, they just ship B1 with MPP (since it will be past the 90days from Oct 30th). 


If another 30 days are needed and batch#1 customers are seriously screwed, i would propose that HF offers some kind of compensation.

This compensation doesnt have to be hurried. Instead they could offer us for example units of their (probably happening) second generation units for free including shipping. Similar to whats Cointerra doing at the moment. They are giving free march Terraminer to their screwed Dec customers. Thats not second generation but it shows how such a situation could be handled between Hashfast and their customers in a satisfying way for both sides.



You are already screwed if IceDrill gets all their units before customers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269216.msg4254717#msg4254717

why? icedrills TH/s wont matter one piece of shit at this stage of the network power. thats basically not more than 2-3% more diff.

also to be exact Icedrill has been shipped ONE unit so far. no reason to freak out.
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January 01, 2014, 03:23:34 PM
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i propose lets go for an additional x-times ramped up MPP sent in Q2. they can afford it and we could break even.
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January 01, 2014, 03:24:49 PM
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They outsourced the design to Uniquify.

So Uniquify was not a parent company? Than why they initially gave HF office space to begin their operations?
I guess that HF paid them for that very reason. And I have never know the name of anyone else involved in the development apart from Simon...

i propose lets go for an additional x-times ramped up MPP sent in Q2. they can afford it and we could break even.
Only if signed by everyone from HF, written from my lawyer and notarised in front of God.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 01, 2014, 03:32:53 PM
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what is the address to send them a registered letter from outside of US? thank you!

The best choice for legal purposes is always to use the company registered address to send notification letters. Do not forgot to authenticate your signature and date in the letter:



By the way, is anyone interested to obtain an Experian credit report of HASHFAST TECHNOLOGIES LLC? I could got one, but it have a cost. A credit report would be good to anyone verify what is the financial situation of the company. You could all participate with a little bit and pool the amount to pay for the report, which in BTC would cost more or 0.04 BTC at the moment.

Ideal address if you're seeking a short term lease: http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17191132/649-Mission-Street-5th-Floor-San-Francisco-CA/
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January 01, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1u5t46/bitcoin_asic_manufacturer_hashfast_facing/

You will upvote, right?

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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January 01, 2014, 03:46:55 PM
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Done.

Is this the good news you alluded to earlier?
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January 01, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
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Yes. As i wrote, it was a good news in the respect of that topic.



This is the rationale way to fight with someone that can put down 10k-100k$ a day in advertising.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 01, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
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Upvote, Done!

But the down votes are incoming.

Man, I wish I could change my avatar!
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January 01, 2014, 04:30:21 PM
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Sigh.  What a fucking mess. Thanks a lot, assholes @ Hashfast.  This is the kind of thing that will encourage me to follow your careers, if you have any left, and be sure to alert those around you of your past.

Is there anybody who is really a hardass who is located in the Bay Area?  

Taco, I love you, but not a Taco kind of person.  A hardass kind of person who will not be flimflammed with bullshit explanations.

Somebody who could conduct a fact finding mission by appearing at their office?
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