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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 865227 times)
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December 28, 2013, 09:55:29 PM
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would like to know for sure that the die is 81mm²... dies are rarely exactly 9x9 mm... so it'd be nice to know exactly how big it is to at least one decimal place rather than the very rough and unlikely sounding 9x9mm number.  e.g.,if it was 9.5x9.5mm that'd be a 90mm² die.

makes a bigger difference when we're trying to calculate the gh per mm²

i also heard for instance and by comparison that knc has a 6.6mm x 6.6mm die = 43.5mm², which hashes at 650 GH for 4 chips, and each chip has 4 dies.. thus each die hashes at 40.625 GH...  thus the gh/mm is 0.94 gh/mm²



Amy from HF wrote about this a couple of months back.

HashFast's Golden Nonce chip: I don't have to estimate the size because I work at HashFast. Smiley
   One 18x18mm die is able to do 400 GHash (nominal - more overclocked**)
   Hashing per square mm:
      18x18mm = 324mm^2
      400 GHash / 324mm^2 = 1.23 GHash/mm^2

So I guess the 18x18 is really 4x9x9

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December 28, 2013, 09:56:52 PM
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Ah found the other post I was looking for:

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There are 4 dies, each 9mm x 9mm, spaced out by 5mm

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270384.msg3195006#msg3195006

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December 28, 2013, 11:11:11 PM
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https://twitter.com/HashFast/status/417022058908770304
"Tests came out very well tonight. Production has been given the go-ahead!"

What night are they talking about since that they are in the pacific side of the USA? (this bothers me since the beginning of their chip updates)

dosent make sense to me to,it would of been daytime,so they must ment last night

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December 28, 2013, 11:22:02 PM
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Really... now that the warm glow of them responding at all has worn off...

It would be nice to have some real hard data on the test system:
1) Number of hashing modules
2) Power consumption at the plug
3) Hashrate as reported by CGMiner
4) Measured temperatures on the chip and PCB
5) An explanation for why the hashrate seems to vary by upto 50% (800 to 1200)

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December 28, 2013, 11:33:29 PM
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So the twitter account said production was just today given the ok to proceed. That lets us know that they aren't made already, right? Unless the 200TH account that popped up on eligius is "production"

I still don't see how they will ship out every one of the orders on monday to arrive tuesday. They might get a box out to screw over that bet that was made, just so icebreaker isn't out $$.
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December 28, 2013, 11:42:05 PM
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And we still are in the dark in terms of the final speed and power.

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December 28, 2013, 11:45:08 PM
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We dont know what the top account is on eligius. We did get them to confirm they were mining on eligius for some time already. It doesnt really gel into their story of a new board since the account was mining fairly consistantly on presumably old board.

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December 28, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
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So the twitter account said production was just today given the ok to proceed. That lets us know that they aren't made already, right? Unless the 200TH account that popped up on eligius is "production"

The way I read that tweet ("Tests came out very well tonight. Production has been given the go-ahead!") is that production of motherboards is in the process, since prototype test were satisfactory. They probably can produce 550 motherboards in one day, but they still have to ship them to Canada to make complete miniers. There's almost no chance they'll deliver a single machine to customer in 2013.
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December 29, 2013, 12:11:06 AM
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So the twitter account said production was just today given the ok to proceed. That lets us know that they aren't made already, right? Unless the 200TH account that popped up on eligius is "production"

The way I read that tweet ("Tests came out very well tonight. Production has been given the go-ahead!") is that production of motherboards is in the process, since prototype test were satisfactory. They probably can produce 550 motherboards in one day, but they still have to ship them to Canada to make complete miniers. There's almost no chance they'll deliver a single machine to customer in 2013.

You should take iCEBREAKER up on that bet then! However I think he may be "away" for some reason or another if you tried to get him to do it hah.
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December 29, 2013, 12:12:12 AM
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It seems that HF's twitter feed is being manned by a few folks who aren't communicating amongst themselves very well.

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December 29, 2013, 12:13:56 AM
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So the twitter account said production was just today given the ok to proceed. That lets us know that they aren't made already, right? Unless the 200TH account that popped up on eligius is "production"

The way I read that tweet ("Tests came out very well tonight. Production has been given the go-ahead!") is that production of motherboards is in the process, since prototype test were satisfactory. They probably can produce 550 motherboards in one day, but they still have to ship them to Canada to make complete miniers. There's almost no chance they'll deliver a single machine to customer in 2013.

You should take iCEBREAKER up on that bet then! However I think he may be "away" for some reason or another if you tried to get him to do it hah.

I believe bogart bet him 5 btc which was accepted. I demand a scammer tag for icebreaker if he doesnt pay.

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December 29, 2013, 12:18:38 AM
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So the twitter account said production was just today given the ok to proceed. That lets us know that they aren't made already, right? Unless the 200TH account that popped up on eligius is "production"

The way I read that tweet ("Tests came out very well tonight. Production has been given the go-ahead!") is that production of motherboards is in the process, since prototype test were satisfactory. They probably can produce 550 motherboards in one day, but they still have to ship them to Canada to make complete miniers. There's almost no chance they'll deliver a single machine to customer in 2013.

You should take iCEBREAKER up on that bet then! However I think he may be "away" for some reason or another if you tried to get him to do it hah.

I believe bogart bet him 5 btc which was accepted. I demand a scammer tag for icebreaker if he doesnt pay.

Was it? Please post a link! I must have missed it. I thought there was no certain agreement yet.
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December 29, 2013, 01:31:12 AM
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ALWAYS BET ON iCE...

Since you like to bet, how about accepting mine?

I have 5 BTC that says HashFast will not ship a working miner containing Golden Nonce chips to even one customer in 2013.  (It has to be physical delivery.  Hosting doesn't count.)

Care to put up 5 BTC of your own against that?

I think I love you bogart.

I accepted Bogart's bet, on his conditions (ckolivas doesn't count) and even offered to double the stakes.

He has yet to respond.  I wonder why?

Your acceptance is acknowledged.  I didn't see your response at first since it came some days later and I don't frequent this thread.

No thanks on the doubled stakes.  I'd rather not tie up that much BTC.

Bogart - Icebreaker bet
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg4098324;topicseen#msg4098324

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December 29, 2013, 02:32:44 AM
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ALWAYS BET ON iCE...

Since you like to bet, how about accepting mine?

I have 5 BTC that says HashFast will not ship a working miner containing Golden Nonce chips to even one customer in 2013.  (It has to be physical delivery.  Hosting doesn't count.)

Care to put up 5 BTC of your own against that?

I think I love you bogart.

I accepted Bogart's bet, on his conditions (ckolivas doesn't count) and even offered to double the stakes.

He has yet to respond.  I wonder why?

Your acceptance is acknowledged.  I didn't see your response at first since it came some days later and I don't frequent this thread.

No thanks on the doubled stakes.  I'd rather not tie up that much BTC.

Bogart - Icebreaker bet
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg4098324;topicseen#msg4098324


He shoulda doubled!

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December 29, 2013, 02:50:49 AM
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ALWAYS BET ON iCE...

Since you like to bet, how about accepting mine?

I have 5 BTC that says HashFast will not ship a working miner containing Golden Nonce chips to even one customer in 2013.  (It has to be physical delivery.  Hosting doesn't count.)

Care to put up 5 BTC of your own against that?

I think I love you bogart.

I accepted Bogart's bet, on his conditions (ckolivas doesn't count) and even offered to double the stakes.

He has yet to respond.  I wonder why?

Your acceptance is acknowledged.  I didn't see your response at first since it came some days later and I don't frequent this thread.

No thanks on the doubled stakes.  I'd rather not tie up that much BTC.

Bogart - Icebreaker bet
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg4098324;topicseen#msg4098324


He shoulda doubled!

It won't matter, because Icebraker would not man up and pay, but just disappear like all the other shills.

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December 29, 2013, 11:01:01 AM
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Quote from: Lawyer
The EXWORKS doesn’t exactly make sense given the product but it obviously is arguable, and shipping address is Iceland, so I would argue Iceland

The trolling is now up to 1.6TH: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KSZMq1L9ZWEBKEHuW7ACXWZJYdxiTdaVt

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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December 29, 2013, 12:23:04 PM
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Hosting at Thor?
Yes, i'm paying the full rate now, i was planning to ask for a better rate if/when the MPP arrived, but that was long before October.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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December 29, 2013, 01:55:15 PM
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Quote from: Lawyer
The EXWORKS doesn’t exactly make sense given the product but it obviously is arguable, and shipping address is Iceland, so I would argue Iceland

The trolling is now up to 1.6TH: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KSZMq1L9ZWEBKEHuW7ACXWZJYdxiTdaVt

What do you guys think? Two or three modules in the test system? I am going for optimistic... Two modules.

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December 29, 2013, 01:59:28 PM
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Quote from: Lawyer
The EXWORKS doesn’t exactly make sense given the product but it obviously is arguable, and shipping address is Iceland, so I would argue Iceland

The trolling is now up to 1.6TH: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1KSZMq1L9ZWEBKEHuW7ACXWZJYdxiTdaVt

What do you guys think? Two or three modules in the test system? I am going for optimistic... Two modules.

I think its a sierra. So that would be 3. But they are still tweaking.
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December 29, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
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I am thinking the same - a Sierra.

I suspect there isn't enough cooling for the units to run as high in the Sierra form factor so they top out at ~500 Gh/s (or less).

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