Merit & new rank requirements

[Jet Cash]

The link is in the post itself - what's wrong with that?

I like it, it avoids giving merit to the wrong post.

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[InvoKing]

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

@TheQuin : i was going to answer him then i remembered our discussion the last time about newbies and here is what i found...

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

[JayJuanGee]

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

@TheQuin : i was going to answer him then i remembered our discussion the last time about newbies and here is what i found...

All things considered, this system is pretty cool. It is a hassle to have to go to a separate page to give points to a post - is it possible to implement this within the thread itself?

Must be a miraculous coincidence that two posters have the exact word choice, including punctuation and capitalizations - it's like we are living in a parallel universe.  Wow!!!!!  I would not have believed it, if I had not seen it with my own eyes.

[InvoKing]

it's like we are living in a parallel universe.

Yeah JayJuanGee, most of newbies are indeed creating a "parallel universe", you can take a look on the topics here created by LoyceV and the others. Plagiarism of external articles, copy paste of old posts, shitposts...duplicated bitcointalk somehow.

[JayJuanGee]

it's like we are living in a parallel universe.

Yeah JayJuanGee, most of newbies are indeed creating a "parallel universe", you can take a look on the topics here created by LoyceV and the others. Plagiarism of external articles, copy paste of old posts, shitposts...duplicated bitcointalk somehow.

If the ratio of plagiarizing newbies is "most" then that would mean bots are becoming more prolific, no?    Surely, AI is becoming more and more sophisticated and making it more and more difficult to sort real humans from the fakes (harder to accomplish in-person, so far). 

I had noticed one regular thread that had around 10 pages within a few days of newbies spouting out repetitive bullshit nonsense, and surely distracting from the thread topic, and likely deterring real peeps from posting.  Likely this forum, and forums like this one, may also have to employ more and more bots to take on some of the work of identifying bot posts and perhaps banning those members and deleting their posts... yet probably part of the justification for the implementation of this merit system is to attempt to incentivize some of the members (including sources) to spot some of these bot posts, and perhaps, not to give merits to the bots.

Actually, there was one bot post that I recall seeing, and I was inclined to give it merit, because it was quite humorous - yet I hesitated to pull the merit sending trigger and waited for another post from the bot, which did not happen, and I did not send the clever post a merit... hahahahahaha

[Sam San]

weekly update





weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week

Are we going to see February levels, soon? Or are we in a bear merit market ?
Can't stop looking at that graph and thinking of the price

I'm wondering about a thing, as I'm not the tech guy that is familiar with this stuff.
Since a lot of tracking is focused on the merit people get, shouldn't we look just for a moment at those that don't get any? One thing I'm curios about and I really didn't know who to ask about, can we have also a top of users active since the merit system that haven't received a single merit, ordered by the number of posts?
The hall of shame spam bounty.

And another, most users speak about increasing merit sources, incentivizing users to spend merit in order to raise the numbers of circulation merit but...are there really 5000 or 10 000 posts that deserve merit created a month?
This is starting to sound like fiat problems, what if we produce and throw around too much?

there is no precise definition of what is merit. it is the subjective factor of each participant of the forum it is giving. so for some, the number of posts it deserves more than 10000, for others less than 1000 a week. previously, there was a clear and mathematically accurate transition by ranks, now included a subjective mechanism that has not yet stopped the flow of empty posts caused by another force. the force of the money bubble that asks 15-25 posts a week not cleaned the forum from the walk-through posts, but that's the advantage of the forum that he lives and fights with the power of money and did not give up. if it is possible to introduce a rule that a week with 15-25 posts is not in activity, it is also somehow stop the influx of messages.

[TheQuin]

@TheQuin : i was going to answer him then i remembered our discussion the last time about newbies and here is what i found...

If the ratio of plagiarizing newbies is "most" then that would mean bots are becoming more prolific, no?    Surely, AI is becoming more and more sophisticated and making it more and more difficult to sort real humans from the fakes (harder to accomplish in-person, so far). 

On a completely unscientific basis, I'm thinking that 9 out 10 Newbies I encounter are bots. I probably see more of them because I always check my unread replies. These bots often just post to the thread that is on top of the board and I've commented in a lot of the stickied threads. I tend to spot them because they pick the same limited sample of posts to copy, I guess because it is the same program running.
Then there are the human plagiarists that just google the thread title and copy the first hit. They usually stand out because they are well written but not really that relevant to the discussion.

[Jet Cash]

In my International newbie post promotion thread, I'm now suggesting that I create a self-moderated thread in Serious Discussion or Ivory Tower to highlight the rare gems that are buried in the mud on the beginners board. I can't see another way for new members with quality posts to get started with merit, especially if they don't have English as their first language.

I'm also cutting back on the time I spend in the cesspits looking for posts to merit, and this will help me to find meritable posts.

[dkbit98]

So far I never received any merit 

So much trash posts

[Jet Cash]

So far I never received any merit 

So much trash posts

There is an easy solution - stop making the trash posts, and go for quality.

[JayJuanGee]

So far I never received any merit 

So much trash posts

I quickly looked at your post history, and I confirm, there seems to be a lot of trash there.

[tranthidung]

So far I never received any merit 

So much trash posts

To improve your post quality, you should have to do the following two essential tasks simultaneously or seperately:
1) Learning and sharpening your English skills, including reading and writing skills. Reading skills will help you to read English documents, articles, topics on crypto easier and more efficiently. You can not learn anything if you are not able to understand what others wrote. Writing skills will help you to express your ideas better, help readers easier to get your ideas and avoid serious misunderstandings.
2) Spending more time to learn about crypto knowledge and basic stuffs of the forum.
You will get nothing if you join the forum without basic knowledge on crypto ecosystem as well as basic structures, functions, useful features of the forum.

For instance:
You can find and learn a lot of things by yourself if you know how to use the forum function:
[Tips] Guide for forum search
Furthermore, you should keep following topics, threads of constructive, famous users in the forum, such as Jet Cash, TMAN, The Pharmacist, iasenko, nullius, hugeblack, zentdex, mdayonliner, etc.
You can learn lots of invaluable things from them, for free.

Best regards, mate.

[coinlocket$]

Weekly update




Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JPgXwaG5tjRUrbZeE8Un-d6noQE_6Fwm6uxLC_qcAKY/edit?usp=sharing

Closer to my prediction to 3.5k sMerit/week (after airdrop)

[JayJuanGee]

Weekly update




Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JPgXwaG5tjRUrbZeE8Un-d6noQE_6Fwm6uxLC_qcAKY/edit?usp=sharing

Closer to my prediction to 3.5k sMerit/week (after airdrop)

What "airdrop"?

[FractalUniverse]

What "airdrop"?

the merit IMO?   free merits at the beginning [based on rank minimum at that time]

[JayJuanGee]

What "airdrop"?

the merit IMO?   free merits at the beginning [based on rank minimum at that time]

O.k.   airdrop, means the initial distribution of merits that took place on about January 24... o.k.  comment makes sense in that context.

[coinlocket$]

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O.k.   airdrop, means the initial distribution of merits that took place on about January 24... o.k.  comment makes sense in that context.

Yes the initial "airdropped free distribution based on rank/activity". Sorry if I wasn't clear.

[borderline]

merit system don't work.. for example i write a lot of translation for a lot of project and make some guide but none of this post was merited... so my possibility to go up in the rank it's 0..

[JayJuanGee]

merit system don't work.. for example i write a lot of translation for a lot of project and make some guide but none of this post was merited... so my possibility to go up in the rank it's 0..

You should just frame your likelihood of receiving merit as zero (like you already did) and give up.  

That is the best attitude.  

Furthermore, psych yourself into getting jaded, disgruntled and bitter, too - if you are not those things, already.  

Seems like you are going to have a great approach to merit and life in general, too.. Surely, you are inspiring me, and perhaps some other members, too.

[borderline]

Seems like you are going to have a great approach to merit and life in general, too.. Surely, you are inspiring me, and perhaps some other members, too.

if you're not kidding me thanks!