Merit & new rank requirements

[Decimation]

Since this update was put into gear I have seen much less drive in anyone to post on this forum. Not only did you absolutely butcher the chances of ranking up within a couple months of being active, but you made hundreds of people leave and no longer use this site. It is nearly impossible to gain 90 merit because gaining merit to give out is so damn hard.

I've only received 2 merit points to give out over the time the system has been implemented. It literally will take over 6 months minimum to gain 90 merit on this forum unless you are super known. This basically created a monopoly for the already highly ranked users here on the forum. Waiting for the day for you guys to either remove this system, or make it more balanced.

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[vphasitha01]

Certainly, we can see improvements and changes to the merit system in future.

I had to agree with your comment, there should be some tweaks for the merit system and system to be implemented for monitoring of merit abuse. It would be nice if there is demirit button for such kind of merit abuse scenarios.

In my opinion, success o a large forum is dependent mainly on the good members there. It is responsibility of genuine members here not only to make good posts but to also report abuse of forum rules including those related to merit.

When I looking to the stats of merits, I have found that most of the recent top merited replies coming from [ANN] treads. That is not the sole purpose of merit system implementation as far to my knowledge.It will leads even more people for those treads and shitposting.
Check these stats Top merited recent replies and decide how the merit system manipulated by ANN treads.

[gillette34jea]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

[Delphinus]

Since this update was put into gear I have seen much less drive in anyone to post on this forum. Not only did you absolutely butcher the chances of ranking up within a couple months of being active, but you made hundreds of people leave and no longer use this site. It is nearly impossible to gain 90 merit because gaining merit to give out is so damn hard.

I've only received 2 merit points to give out over the time the system has been implemented. It literally will take over 6 months minimum to gain 90 merit on this forum unless you are super known. This basically created a monopoly for the already highly ranked users here on the forum. Waiting for the day for you guys to either remove this system, or make it more balanced.

I haven't noticed that the forums have become less active, although I agree that ranking up is to hard currently. My expectation is that they are considering balance updates; although it is taking a while.

[TheQuin]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

Learn to read before posting would be the best thing you could do. In this instance, you have found the thread where everything you could possible want to know about Merit is explained but rather than start off by reading the OP you posted to ask.

[RivAngE]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

Read the first post of this thread and if this doesn't help, get better at English first and then join a forum!

[CurrencyGold]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

Some users are able to give "merit", based on how much merit they have been granted already. If these users feel like giving someone merit, they can. Ideally, if you post quality content, a user, with merit giving potential, will give you merit.

[Ninocute]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

Some users are able to give "merit", based on how much merit they have been granted already. If these users feel like giving someone merit, they can. Ideally, if you post quality content, a user, with merit giving potential, will give you merit.

That's a pretty nice update but it has some shortcomings, how will those users that a Merit sources see all post and give out merits to them?
This is a big challenge as everyone on this forum will want to rank up... At least to Full Member rank.

I think the merit system should be designed in such a way that you get Likes for your comments and a particular number of likes will equal to a certain number of merits... say 10Likes = 1Merit.
By so doing, everyone stays happy and the forum stays active.

[pkmoney]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

Some users are able to give "merit", based on how much merit they have been granted already. If these users feel like giving someone merit, they can. Ideally, if you post quality content, a user, with merit giving potential, will give you merit.

That's a pretty nice update but it has some shortcomings, how will those users that a Merit sources see all post and give out merits to them?
This is a big challenge as everyone on this forum will want to rank up... At least to Full Member rank.

I think the merit system should be designed in such a way that you get Likes for your comments and a particular number of likes will equal to a certain number of merits... say 10Likes = 1Merit.
By so doing, everyone stays happy and the forum stays active.

And thus, some people will get 1000 merits in a month.
People can create thousand of account and like his/her own posts. So, the purpose of merit will go in vain again.
Current merit system is really a good one. Just put some efforts in order to having knowledge, not for having merits. Will get merit automatically.

[Randolf007]

I think the system is very good, but it depends on the individual who runs the system well, sometimes there is a decent but not got a reward, but there are also posts that do not deserve a reward, so go back to the account owner.
so the new rules will encourage account owners to further improve the quality of posting, if you want to get more merit.

[Sova_tmb]

I don't understand about Merit? what exactly I must do?

You must write a usefull post , help another users and don't  spam on forum.

[thsaudtl1]

I agree with everything. But I think there are some things to upgrade or modify. First of all, I think we should give subordinate members the right to get one Merit per day at 0 Merit by default, so that they can give them useful posts. Of course, to get rid of the malicious one, you have to make 1 Merit disappear after a day (ie your Merit is initialized).
Instead, it would be a good idea to increase the number of Merit conditions in the condition of raising the member rating.

[cryptaxo]

i am happy to see that theymos got a hell lot of merit by introducing merit system, LOL and well done. 

[Gostrnomin]

merit is difficult to collect, although on the one hand this is correct, but with another complicates normal people to upset the rank

[Forward_Thinking]

Since this update was put into gear I have seen much less drive in anyone to post on this forum. Not only did you absolutely butcher the chances of ranking up within a couple months of being active, but you made hundreds of people leave and no longer use this site. It is nearly impossible to gain 90 merit because gaining merit to give out is so damn hard.

I've only received 2 merit points to give out over the time the system has been implemented. It literally will take over 6 months minimum to gain 90 merit on this forum unless you are super known. This basically created a monopoly for the already highly ranked users here on the forum. Waiting for the day for you guys to either remove this system, or make it more balanced.

Yep. And I warned them within a few weeks after they rolled this out that it would cripple what I considered an institution. It would also create a cast system. It did both. I also predicted it would reduce spam, yep - did that. But at what cost?

They basically built up a huge wall around the castle and so people have decided to just build up the town instead of bothering the with the draw bridge.

I even recommended they validate my concerns with analytics and made predictions about what the metrics would look like and what those patterns would likely mean.

I got some merit out of my post, ironically, but I guess the content fell on deaf ears.

Then again, perhaps a walled in castle was the point.

[CryptoSifus]

Thanks for the breakdown.
Really didn't understand these points until I found this thread!

Now give me some damn merit points and rank me up! LOL

[pandoraaktor]

thanks, very helpful to me me

[coinlocket$]

WEEKLY UPDATE





spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ROK007e4FNRH_W_8SO3LOpVFfeC1AibnfQw6lZAbdBw/edit?usp=sharing


MONTLY UPDATE, MISSING 3 HOURS ON 31/05/2018

[iasenko]

WEEKLY UPDATE
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Great analysis man, as usual.
From 48K to 19K this is a big fall, idk if this is only because the initial sMerit now is almost totally distributed or because there are less quality posts.
Lets see if in the next month the number will fall under the merit source limit.

There are 80 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18500 sMerit per 30 days

[TheQuin]

From 48K to 19K this is a big fall, idk if this is only because the initial sMerit now is almost totally distributed or because there are less quality posts.
Lets see if in the next month the number will fall under the merit source limit.

There are 80 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 18500 sMerit per 30 days

I'm pretty sure it is the initial sMerit running out as my personal experience is that there has been an increase in quality posts. I'd like to know how many of those 18,500 sMerit are actually generated every 30 days. If a source doesn't spend them then they don't get replaced 30 days later. I think only theymos could access that data unless anybody can confidently identify all 80 sources.