Merit & new rank requirements

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Still so many desperate noobs plaguing the forum sniffing around for Merit 

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[lang shao]

Why is it now so hard to get merit, still hoping to get merit someday because I work so hard in my posting..hoping to get merit ...

Admins help me to get merit....

[CobraJ]

I was wondering if there is any list of the members with self-replenishing SM, or if any of you know some of them.

[Sova_tmb]

Why is it now so hard to get merit, still hoping to get merit someday because I work so hard in my posting..hoping to get merit ...

Admins help me to get merit....

Don't worry mate , if your posts truly useful for the forum you will be receive a merit. Don't create a plaintive posts! Do it! Just do it! Don't cry wake up and work!

[LoyceV]

I was wondering if there is any list of the members with self-replenishing SM, or if any of you know some of them.

There's this: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits.
But why would you even want to know who they are? Theymos doesn't disclose the list to prevent merit begging, and if you do beg them, be warned that some Merit sources give you red trust for begging. And some are DT-members.

[tranthidung]

There's this: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits.
But why would you even want to know who they are? Theymos doesn't disclose the list to prevent merit begging, and if you do beg them, be warned that some Merit sources give you red trust for begging. And some are DT-members.

Another side effect of merit begging is being added to Ignore List of merit sources.
Some of merit sources are really strict, and readily to put merit beggars to their Ignore List, such as @Jet Cash.

[ALEX JAHID]

Still so many desperate noobs plaguing the forum sniffing around for Merit 

Yes everyone wants Merit but they do not have the ability to take merit.

[RivAngE]

Still so many desperate noobs plaguing the forum sniffing around for Merit 

Yes everyone wants Merit but they do not have the ability to take merit.

Like you for example?

[phamminhtan]

I want to ask, time to update merit is how many days?

[TheBeardedBaby]

I want to ask, time to update merit is how many days?

There is no time intervals. It is based on your quality content and the perception of quality of the other users.
Quick look through your post history and..

[Zicadis]

There's this: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits.
But why would you even want to know who they are? Theymos doesn't disclose the list to prevent merit begging, and if you do beg them, be warned that some Merit sources give you red trust for begging. And some are DT-members.

Another side effect of merit begging is being added to Ignore List of merit sources.
Some of merit sources are really strict, and readily to put merit beggars to their Ignore List, such as @Jet Cash.

Wow this is the worst case that you do not want to find yourself in, but you know what be yourself post naturally don't force things and hopefully some merit will come your way 

[RivAngE]

I want to ask, time to update merit is how many days?

There is no time intervals. It is based on your quality content and the perception of quality of the other users.
Quick look through your post history and..

I'm impressed that you understood what he was trying to say!
Nice image by the way, wanna try it on me too?

[Sexy_Sees]

I want to ask, time to update merit is how many days?

There is no time intervals. It is based on your quality content and the perception of quality of the other users.
Quick look through your post history and..

And also if you fall in one’s favor who’s a Merit source. For most people it’s pointless to strive for something higher than Full Member. Those days are over and you had to get in early. Which is fair of course! And now you see people really putting effort in some posts where they normally would have said much less words and put in way less effort. Those who are now Hero Members/Legendaries had it so much easier.. So, positive changes, right?

I really liked your picture and I’m not good with drawings so just used an existing one which may not be totally appropriate, but some people must feel this way in here

[matvee]

Why is it now so hard to get merit, still hoping to get merit someday because I work so hard in my posting..hoping to get merit ...

Admins help me to get merit....

Looking at your past posts, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2179076;sa=showPosts I am forced to say that you should try harder.

Try to be more active in meta section (and answering questions asked by other members) .

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Looking at your past posts, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2179076;sa=showPosts I am forced to say that you should try harder.

You don't even have to look at his posts, just the amount of merits he's earned, which is ZERO.

Try to be more active in meta section (and answering questions asked by other members) .

No. No. No.  You're telling people who have no interest in the forum to post in a section that's dedicated to talking about forum issues.  The only thing that's going to achieve is a lower signal:noise.  It's already the case that more merit-seeking noobs have invaded Meta, and 99.9% of them are just trying to agree with the positions they think will earn them merit.  Senior members know this and generally don't give out merits in Meta.  So please don't suggest that desperate merit seekers post more in Meta.  That will most likely get them on the ignore lists of members who could possibly give them merit.

[troger]

I want to ask, time to update merit is how many days?

It is instant to reflect from what I have read. But you need to get one first.

[Jet Cash]

I want to ask, time to update merit is how many days?

If you are talking about merit sources, then it's 30 days. If I award 20 sMerits today, then I get them back in 30 days. If I can't find any decent posts, because it takes too long to weed through all the rubbish, and I don't award any merit, then the replacement is delayed, and the good members lose out. The spam bots and TwitBook spammers don't seem to realise that they are actually slowing down the generation of new sMerits that could be awarded to the decent responsible members here.

[ryap12]

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	0
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.

Thank you Theymos! This is really helpful. Now I know how the bitcointalk System works. We have to contribute helpful data in-order to attract people who can give merits, merit us. I have been wondering why I got stuck in Jr. Member like forever until I found the answer.

[STT]

No. No. No.  You're telling people who have no interest in the forum to post in a section that's dedicated to talking about forum issues.  The only thing that's going to achieve is a lower signal:noise.  It's already the case that more merit-seeking noobs have invaded Meta, and 99.9% of them are just trying to agree with the positions they think will earn them merit.  Senior members know this and generally don't give out merits in Meta.  So please don't suggest that desperate merit seekers post more in Meta.  That will most likely get them on the ignore lists of members who could possibly give them merit.

Yep people should post whatever is closest to their heart or knowledge.   Ideally we have a wide distribution of merit available across the forum and somebody even if they dont have alot will chip in a merit for a good post on that particular subject.   Meta is just the mechanics of the forum and discussions of repercussions, I most commonly post on the speculation board part of the forum.   Put up some news, a price projection, a graph and its actually informing me then I'm pretty grateful for that especially if its a newer rank member I'll add merit.  

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