[ANN][EAC] EarthCoin *SEEKING NEW EXCHANGES - HUGE VOLUMES BEING MISSED!

[1Kb]

You do know that this will kill the community right? As for me, I am not willing to participate in a man hunt.

Why would it kill the community?
The devs have already fled and any future tasks has to be done by the community.

So for me, the coin has already plummeted to its lowest,and its time we as a community organize ourselves.
While the community can go on developing new features, if there are likely minded people like me, we can organize a bounty to track these guys down.

At least this could be deterrent to future fraudsters and we can add some more drama to the earth coin story telling.

Just imagine what this will do the branding of the coin? A man hunt will not resolve the problem, it will only make you feel good for a short while as you have a target to vent your anger. But in the end, the energy and effort spend creates a vacuum which needs to dealt with anyway but has grwon even bigger. So instead of wasting energy, time and money on this, why not make sure that the door to the original DEVs gets closed and help build from there?

[m3ta-schatten]

I 'm happy about the good flow of this discussion.

I hope to get a message of xploited, to get news about the android wallet he is developing and which was tested by myself (Worked great!).

[qgmurugan007]

Just imagine what this will do the branding of the coin? A man hunt will not resolve the problem, it will only make you feel good for a short while as you have a target to vent your anger. But in the end, the energy and effort spend creates a vacuum which needs to dealt with anyway but has grwon even bigger. So instead of wasting energy, time and money on this, why not make sure that the door to the original DEVs gets closed and help build from there?

This attitude is the current problem with the crypto community IMHO.
Anybody can come and do whatever to scam other people.
Look at the scams happening around here.

Ideally i would have wanted the forum moderators to put some form of validation with coin OPs, before announcing any coin.But they seem only interested in banning free giveaways.

I am a newbie here and I am not holding much EAC's either.
To me a fraud is a fraud and he/she should be exposed.
We need to start somewhere, and looking at the recent threads, these guys have left enough clues to get to them
quiet easily.

Closing the door to the original devs is a good idea too.

[slyA]

Re:points

Fair enough. I owe you an apology as well. I may be a cantankerous bloke but I'm man enough to admit I was crass and most probably wrong. As for your points, charities do make money. I agree. But donating to charities does not. My point is we should think in terms of publicity stunts, you know, a tit for tat.

Therefore if we decide to donate to a charity or a cause, we might as well exploit it and broadcast it to the ends of the earth. Just like DOGE did with sending the Jamaicans to Sochi. We should do something of that scope too. NOw here in lies the conceit. I feel like if, and this is a strong if, we decide  to go full force into putting blood and sweat into this, it might give the devs incentive to dump their hoard due to a relative price rise.

One can only hope and count on the stupidity of the devs like you said. If they have in fact fled with the premine, I hope that the low we are seeing is as a result of the constant dumping into the market fray. That way we can rip off the band-aid quickly and get it over with. Now this is where investigating the premine comes in.

If they still have the premine then it means they have not dumped. This is basic game theory. So we can either struggle to force them into the light, or go ahead with other projects and wait for their inflationary axe to drop, sullying all our efforts...

Having said that. You are right, there is a market to be tapped in going green. Hell the Prius and Tesla motors saw that niche and are making billions from it. What they do however have going for them is a centralized goal. We are tasked with finding a specific cause and specialising EAC with it. Earth coin can be a lot of things, it can feed the poor, provide research funds, provide relief aid for natural or man-made disasters and so on... The uses are endless but the resources and man power is finite. If we don't focus on one, we can't expect to gain the investor interest we are looking for.

slyA,

Thank you for your reply, it is much appreciated.

While I do not have any more answers than I did before, I will attempt to give a considered response.... Continued

Fair enough. I won't be here if I was not willing to lend a hand. But I have to say, those who have to answer this question are those who are currently holding the bag for this coin. I have sparred insults with them in the previous threads and it is up to them to decide to step up to the plate and do something. I have nothing to gain from this coin as of now so my input is sure to be tinged with unempathetic bias when it comes down to it. Thos who stand to lose the most are those who should step up. The floor is open, I can only stand by and cheer them on.
 

[slyA]

I say before people start organizing anything, we should see where the premine went since its that in which can destroy all effort in a matter of seconds (if it has not been dumped already). Is it that hard to track down or has it really been split up that many times?

Is there even such a thing as a professional blockchain examiner? heh.

Premine scene investigation. Who would have thought?

[WesandEAC]

So the only thing I have been able to find out is that  slyA said, "I have no stake in EAC as I type this. Truth be told, I cashed out my EAC earlier on when I realised the dev team were sketchy individuals."

Hmmm so we know who dumped his coins and likes to ramble about absolutely NOTHING.  I am here to stay.  You can ignore me, do your own thing, play ball or leave.  It is also irrelevant.  I will push and create things for EarthCoin to the best of my abilities.

I have control of some of the pre-mine about 18M right now and I have my own coins, of which I have NEVER SOLD 1!!.  I do not deal with terrorists by design, so I have no ambition to prove that to you one way or another.  It is the truth.  

Yet you have dumped them all slyA, provide absolutely nothing and waste people's time.  I thank you for adding pages to our EarthCoin community chat log however.  Bad stuff = good stuff.  Lets agree to disagree.

I also challenge you to take EarthCoin in whatever direction you feel it should go.  Put in the effort, create something, branch it, re-design it.  Do whatever you want to do - NO ONE is stopping you.  See my job is to know things for the future and I would bet right now that you will do nothing and accomplish nothing.  I am actually in your cheerleading camp for you to be able to actually do something.  See I know something you do not know and that is that mutiny may accomplish something on a pirate ship however in the decentralized nature of the world here, we have to all work together whether we like one another or not, to create value.  It is that simple.  You should re-focus your efforts like most of us are doing.

So if you want to create a mutiny, go ahead, do whatever you would like to do for EarthCoin, in the end everyone benefits regardless.

[1Kb]

So the only thing I have been able to find out is that  slyA said, "I have no stake in EAC as I type this. Truth be told, I cashed out my EAC earlier on when I realised the dev team were sketchy individuals."

Hmmm so we know who dumped his coins and likes to ramble about absolutely NOTHING.  I am here to stay.  You can ignore me, do your own thing, play ball or leave.  It is also irrelevant.  I will push and create things for EarthCoin to the best of my abilities.

I have control of some of the pre-mine about 18M right now and I have my own coins, of which I have NEVER SOLD 1!!.  I do not deal with terrorists by design, so I have no ambition to prove that to you one way or another.  It is the truth.  

Yet you have dumped them all slyA, provide absolutely nothing and waste people's time.  I thank you for adding pages to our EarthCoin community chat log however.  Bad stuff = good stuff.  Lets agree to disagree.

I also challenge you to take EarthCoin in whatever direction you feel it should go.  Put in the effort, create something, branch it, re-design it.  Do whatever you want to do - NO ONE is stopping you.  See my job is to know things for the future and I would bet right now that you will do nothing and accomplish nothing.  I am actually in your cheerleading camp for you to be able to actually do something.  See I know something you do not know and that is that mutiny may accomplish something on a pirate ship however in the decentralized nature of the world here, we have to all work together whether we like one another or not, to create value.  It is that simple.  You should re-focus your efforts like most of us are doing.

So if you want to create a mutiny, go ahead, do whatever you would like to do for EarthCoin, in the end everyone benefits regardless.

It would have been more beneficial if you would just have stated:
SlyA, yes I am frustrated too.

[TwentyGotoTen]

if one looks at coin market cap, about a week ago EAC looked as if it were about to go over $1 million in market cap, as it sits right now @$526,246, it looks to me as if someone/everyone dumped & cashed out 1/2 the value in the last week or so NOT. I seem to remember someone I thought was from the dev team posting here roughly the same thing, that almost a million was invested so far, and people should put more in, maybe I'm wrong. I don't have time to read back through all the posts here today. I'm not even sure if those stats on there are just the result of coins being down right now or if that reflects actual cash value that's been invested by the people who buy in? If latter is true then coin has already been cashed out and into something else by almost 50% of what it was a week or so ago. I'm do not give a fuck anymore in where pre-mine is or who the next con artist is in line to try and fuck people. I've lost maybe $30-40 total on this endeavor into eac so imho, lesson learned. I've lost more at the corner store on 2 ~$20 scratch card tickets through the states corrupt lottery. I guess I'll just hold my supposedly valueless eac and see what happens then. Incryptex site is probably where all the pre-mine is going or where it went, right? If it's specializing trading in eac, these coins may be of value there someday. No one knows the devs, bullshit to that!!! Norb, Wesley, some other Aussie dude? This whole thing is a joke, right? I'm laughing anyway, probably 'cause I'm mental, but that's a topic for another time. Might need to re-think my eac special, not that anyone evrr heard of it (eac) besides me around my neck of the woods anyway, wtf  

[WesandEAC]

Yes thanks 1kb!  Yes I am frustrated too.    Just have to keep building and growing.  I KNOW for a fact no one I know from the Dev side has dumped any including me.  I have only bought and held.  Its a multi-year project for me.  But things that are not explainable require a villain and so I understand the instinct.  If I wagered a guess I would say there are many-a-miner who have that capability and motive to dump, not anyone who has been involved in the creation of EAC.  Miner's have bills to pay and could care less, it is a function of math for them and I understand that too.  Now if you have a collective of miners who have a greater goal, that is where value can be created.  But that is up to fate and time.

[ontopicplease]

I am still reading posts hwere people are talking about the fleeying devs and their premines. It looks like many around here still think or know for a fact (which looks not so probable to me) that the devs still have their premine.
I mean, when you are a dev, planning to make a quick buck and not willing to support the coin properly, what are you gonna do?
1. Dump quick for a nice price or
2. keep until it is wothless.

I can't really believe the devs have any EAC left in their wallets.

[ontopicplease]

Anyone an idea who put all the big buywalls yesterday. Knowing who did that is valuable information.
Actually it was difficult to figure out, if the group that did the buywalls, eventually bought or sold EAC.
Anyone an idea?

[WesandEAC]

Buddy I don't know how else to say it to you, hehe.  No dev has sold a coin and we will keep them until they are worthless if that is where it heads then that is what fate intended.  We can not be the villain you require, you are going to have to go to another coin to find that.  We are all successful in our own right and do not need a few thousand bucks from dumping EAC hahaha.  You do make me laugh - I will give you that.

I am still reading posts hwere people are talking about the fleeying devs and their premines. It looks like many around here still think or know for a fact (which looks not so probable to me) that the devs still have their premine.
I mean, when you are a dev, planning to make a quick buck and not willing to support the coin properly, what are you gonna do?
1. Dump quick for a nice price or
2. keep until it is wothless.

I can't really believe the devs have any EAC left in their wallets.

[m3ta-schatten]

Buddy I don't know how else to say it to you, hehe.  No dev has sold a coin and we will keep them until they are worthless if that is where it heads then that is what fate intended.  We can not be the villain you require, you are going to have to go to another coin to find that.  We are all successful in our own right and do not need a few thousand bucks from dumping EAC hahaha.  You do make me laugh - I will give you that.

I am still reading posts hwere people are talking about the fleeying devs and their premines. It looks like many around here still think or know for a fact (which looks not so probable to me) that the devs still have their premine.
I mean, when you are a dev, planning to make a quick buck and not willing to support the coin properly, what are you gonna do?
1. Dump quick for a nice price or
2. keep until it is wothless.

I can't really believe the devs have any EAC left in their wallets.

WesandEAC, thanks for replying. Is it possible to get some of the wallet addresses of the premine? I think its safe to assume there should be atleast 160+ million EAC premine left? This coin would benefit greatly with some transparency. It would make the community feel much more comfortable if much of the premine could be gathered together to a seperate public wallets per dev (if thats the way you's are doing it).

+1

[nrhs05]

I'd say the developers need to create a public ledger of the premine now and stop this coin spiraling down further into the abyss, is that going to happen? Probably not.

That's the thing. There was a public ledger. But somewhere along the line, they decided to split the coins into dozens of wallets making the funds untraceable. Nochi has been trying to piece together the trail of the premine and saya he got to 60M of the total 270 million. Another user calculated the value of the giveaways. The devs claimed to have given millions but the bounties and giveaways shows roughly 200k coins were dispersed of the 270million. These trifling idiots are just that. Idiots.

I have counted the bounties listed to account for almost 800k, i updated a 500k thread that i had missed

[ontopicplease]

Buddy I don't know how else to say it to you, hehe.  No dev has sold a coin and we will keep them until they are worthless if that is where it heads then that is what fate intended.  We can not be the villain you require, you are going to have to go to another coin to find that.  We are all successful in our own right and do not need a few thousand bucks from dumping EAC hahaha.  You do make me laugh - I will give you that.

I am still reading posts hwere people are talking about the fleeying devs and their premines. It looks like many around here still think or know for a fact (which looks not so probable to me) that the devs still have their premine.
I mean, when you are a dev, planning to make a quick buck and not willing to support the coin properly, what are you gonna do?
1. Dump quick for a nice price or
2. keep until it is wothless.

I can't really believe the devs have any EAC left in their wallets.

Okay, you call it a few Thousand bucks.
The devs had plenty of time to dump. From the beginning at cryptsy all the way down until now. When we take 150 sat as an average price which is a really carefull estamizing, 270 million* 150 sat = 405 BTC. At those days btc was $700 or $ 800, so we are talking about $ 300,000 and not really a couple of thousands. To restore faith of the community again, just put up a sellwall of 250 million EAC at 200 sat or so, then I believe you. The words your saying mean absolutelity nothing to me.
You guys know exactly what needs to be done to regain faith of the community, but the only thing you do is making these same useless posts for weeks now. Lol, people who really care won't never react the way you do.

[centurion76]

Normally I keep my mouth shut as I am too busy working on things to chime in on here, and I generally ignore the trolls, but for all of you that are concerned about the devs I do have a few things to say.

I can contact the dev team at will, if needed, and speak with them on skype. I have their personal contact info, and can even show up at their doorsteps and invite myself in for coffee if I chose to do so, which I wouldn't of course, I don't have the time. I'm too busy creating things to be concerned with what they are doing on a daily basis, or how many coins they have. The dev team is security and privacy conscious and won't publicly post their contact details, and I don't blame them. They are real people and they are busy behind the scenes, and with their private lives.

Their real job is to be the stewards of the source code, present a public face with getearthcoin.com, and help with the initial promotion of earthcoin. I think they have done a good job with most of this. If you don't like how they are handling things go to Cryptozark's uservoice site and make a suggestion, they do listen.

There for about a week or two they were busy (mostly with Earthcoin projects) and weren't posting anything on here. I agree that they should have been more active in the community, and sent them a message saying so. As soon as I made the suggestion they came on and gave us an update, and have been posting daily. Yet there are still posts here asking where they are, I don't get it....

As for the premine. The devs have been straight up with me so far, and have compensated me from the premine for my efforts. It is a healthy amount of EAC they have rewarded me with. Considering that Earthazaar.com is there for me to make a profit (it is by no means a charity) they probably shouldn't have sent any to me at all.

So, how about everyone quit being quite so concerned about where the premine is, it is being put to good use, and try to get some things accomplished. (I have a part of the premine if you really need to know )

I suppose they could post a public ledger of the premine to keep the doubtful satisfied, but I find that I just don't really care....

By the way I could really use more product listings on https://earthazaar.com. Trade is the avenue to increase the value of your Earthcoin, so please get to trading, and post an auction. Thanks

[Bitdonator]

Something crazy happen now on Coinex chat. People talking about huge EAC pump later today, 170 satoshi and more
I hope it is true  

[ontopicplease]

Something crazy happen now on Coinex chat. People talking about huge EAC pump later today, 170 satoshi and more
I hope it is true  

Oh probably some figured out that they wanted to dump their EAC and try to get some buywalls.

[Anubite]

EAC is full of ascending triangles. If anyone is selling, you might want to pull back for a while. Coinex was just in the 70s.

[ontopicplease]

EAC is full of ascending triangles. If anyone is selling, you might want to pull back for a while. Coinex was just in the 70s.

No volume, you can pump eac to 100 sat on coinex with 1 btc.