[DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too

[johanatan]

Hi,

I am seeing a few of issues with DeepBit currently.  Firstly, although my balance is greater than the minimum required for instant payout and I have not received a payment in 3 days, the instant payout button is disabled.

Also, the reported hash rate from deep is considerably less (27%) than the sum of the hash rates displayed in my console window for my cards.

Thanks!

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[winnetou]

damn. i have a little farm running, yesterday i had 800mhash, now its only 23-100mhash!!!!!!!! i think theres something wrong!!!!!!!!  

[[Tycho]]

I have my auto payout set at 10 BTC, however sometimes 15-18 BTC will collect into my deepbit before it actually gets auto-sent off...Why is this?
edit; I set it at 10 and it seems to be depositing around 17.2 instead.

Autopayment is triggered after 24 hours since last payout, so if you earn more during that 24 hours period you will get more than 10

[[Tycho]]

I am seeing a few of issues with DeepBit currently.  Firstly, although my balance is greater than the minimum required for instant payout and I have not received a payment in 3 days, the instant payout button is disabled.
Also, the reported hash rate from deep is considerably less (27%) than the sum of the hash rates displayed in my console window for my cards.

1) Have you read the text that is printed instead of instant payout button on the site ?
2) Is your bitcoin address set in your deepbit account ?
3) Are you using phoenix miner ?

[Veldy]

I am seeing a few of issues with DeepBit currently.  Firstly, although my balance is greater than the minimum required for instant payout and I have not received a payment in 3 days, the instant payout button is disabled.
Also, the reported hash rate from deep is considerably less (27%) than the sum of the hash rates displayed in my console window for my cards.

1) Have you read the text that is printed instead of instant payout button on the site ?
2) Is your bitcoin address set in your deepbit account ?
3) Are you using phoenix miner ?

Phoenix 1.47 work just fine with Deepbit and shows stale (rejected) properly unlike 1.45.

[[Tycho]]

Just wanted to update. We're jumping.
Sorry but security issues this sweeping in a financial operation are not an acceptable risk to us.
I wish you luck but we are not willing to continue. Thanks.

Sorry, I don't know who are "we" you are talking about and there are no security issues.
Someone stole passwords from 17 pool users (may be by sniffing or using trojan program, those users had same password for workers and the main account) and changed their bitcoin addreses.
I know who are those victims and their loss is refunded by me after they fix the address and change their passwords, so nothing is lost.

Yesterday I reset bitcoin addresses of all the users so they will be sure that it's really correct and set by real owner (because of e-mail confirmation).

[[Tycho]]

Phoenix 1.47 work just fine with Deepbit and shows stale (rejected) properly unlike 1.45.

Some people reported that Phoenix miner's hashrate display shows bigger hashrate than they really have.
I don't know if it's true or not, so I'm asking about the miner.

[Zaft]

Hey Tycho, I've got a quick question. I tried searching, but haven't found the answer, so I figured I'd ask here.

I'm using the proportional payout method, but I wanted to know if there's any way to view what my estimated proportion is. I'm currently using three GTX465s, and I'm going to be building a new rig specifically for mining soon, but until that time, I wanted to see what would be more profitable; pay per share or proportional.

Sorry if it's been answered elsewhere.

[Veldy]

Phoenix 1.47 work just fine with Deepbit and shows stale (rejected) properly unlike 1.45.

Some people reported that Phoenix miner's hashrate display shows bigger hashrate than they really have.
I don't know if it's true or not, so I'm asking about the miner.

It is not.  They are confusing the local hashrate with the hashrate perceived by the server [submitted shares to determine hashrate].  I get the same [with tweaking parameters] using Phoenix as poclbm [with tweaking parameters].  I have since 1.3 when I first tried it.  Only problem I found was it wasn't showing rejected shares in version 1.45, but it is in 1.47.  I tested for a short period this morning against Deepbit and it was fine.

[johanatan]

I am seeing a few of issues with DeepBit currently.  Firstly, although my balance is greater than the minimum required for instant payout and I have not received a payment in 3 days, the instant payout button is disabled.
Also, the reported hash rate from deep is considerably less (27%) than the sum of the hash rates displayed in my console window for my cards.

1) Have you read the text that is printed instead of instant payout button on the site ?

Yes, I was referring to the text.  There is no button.

2) Is your bitcoin address set in your deepbit account ?

Ahh, nope.  That is it.  I saw the 'everyone's address was reset' message but thought that the reset occurred before i joined the pool.

3) Are you using phoenix miner ?

Nope, poclbm.

[m4rkiz]

just realized that block every 13 minutes means 5538 btc per day (with current difficulty) and that is eleven to thirteen hundreds $ daily for [Tycho] depending on price (without even including higher fee from pps)... not a bad business, is it?

i just wish that i found about bitcoins few months earlier... just like everyone else is

[Veldy]

just realized that block every 13 minutes means 5538 btc per day (with current difficulty) and that is eleven to thirteen hundreds $ daily for [Tycho] depending on price (without even including higher fee from pps)... not a bad business, is it?

i just wish that i found about bitcoins few months earlier... just like everyone else is

You forgot to multiple by 0.03 .. so 166BTC * $8.00 (current) = $1329.23  I was about to correct you and see that you already included the 3%

[ataranlen]

I assume a Bold "Shares" Portion on the Statistics page means I solved that block? Otherwise I see no indication that I have ever solved a block.

[Veldy]

I assume a Bold "Shares" Portion on the Statistics page means I solved that block? Otherwise I see no indication that I have ever solved a block.

Yes!  If you hit the advanced tab [where you set the payout threshold] you will see how many blocks that you have solved EVER on deepbit.

[ataranlen]

"Number of blocks found by you: 1"

Awesome! Thanks for that info!

[Veldy]

"Number of blocks found by you: 1"

Awesome! Thanks for that info!

My pleasure.  I had found two with my "slow" 570GTX (about 133MH/s) and have been running a 6970 since [so, about 5 out of 6 weeks .. I only used the other card for one week] and haven't found a block with any pool since   Go figure.

I should say that I found both blocks with deepbit.  I was using Slush first, then deepbit, so it wasn't even a week with that "slow" card.

[VastLite]

I've somehow found 9, "Number of blocks found by you: 9" which would have equaled 450 BTC when in actuality I've only gained 230 BTC. I know that this is a pool and that we are *pooling* our luck, and that I would have made the 230 BTC regardless of how many blocks I found, it's just interesting to know that my luck is above average. It makes me wonder how I would have fared solo-mining. However, I greatly prefer consistent payouts.

Cheers to all the BTC we've made so far!

[Veldy]

I've somehow found 9, "Number of blocks found by you: 9" which would have equaled 450 BTC when in actuality I've only gained 230 BTC. I know that this is a pool and that we are *pooling* our luck, and that I would have made the 230 BTC regardless of how many blocks I found, it's just interesting to know that my luck is above average. It makes me wonder how I would have fared solo-mining. However, I greatly prefer consistent payouts.

Cheers to all the BTC we've made so far!

Don't believe in luck; there is no such thing [well, I am a rationalist in that respect].  Simply statistics which are completely random.  Sometimes, one person benefits, even over long periods of time, by beating the odds, but that is how statistics work.  One could call that luck, but that would be putting the supernatural into something what is clearly mathematical in nature. 

If allowed to run for a long enough time [without difficulty changes which affect the statistics ever so slightly due to the "quantum" nature of shares ... you can only submit an entire share, so there is always some work wasted when working on stale shares or dumping the share in progress due to a long polling notification to move on to new work], you would probably find that your payout from the pool would indeed be 3% under what you would have made solo.  Again, that would be over a long period of time.  Even with difficulty included, if you are using reasonable hardware, you will, over a long time, average out to that same ~97% of solo mining.  There are always individuals who escape the odds over long periods of time; especially in a large population, however, the mining population is not really all that large.  Probably in the several thousands if I had to guess [some of those have huge hashing power though and I bet they can report convergence on 97% over time much more quickly].

[[Tycho]]

I'm using the proportional payout method, but I wanted to know if there's any way to view what my estimated proportion is. I'm currently using three GTX465s, and I'm going to be building a new rig specifically for mining soon, but until that time, I wanted to see what would be more profitable; pay per share or proportional.

Open your advanced settings page and look if the option for hiding percentage is enabled. If the percentage display is not hidden, you will see your proportion on the account page.

[frycicle]

Ugh, I'm having connection problems.