[DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too

[eleuthria]

So what you're saying is even if I *do* solve one or two shares an hour, they will be stale/worthless, since the block will already have been solved?  Makes sense.

And just to confirm what you already though, my 4200 series card is not supported from all the research I've been able to do.

As long as you have long polling, you will not be submitting stales (outside of latency issues where a share is submitted in the time window between an LP sending and you receiving).  Since shares don't have any type of progress, you're not "losing" any mining time when changing work to the new work sent by the longpoll.

However, I will say that there is absolutely no reason anybody should be CPU mining at this time.   Even with free electricity, you will wear out your components faster, especially on a laptop.  You're essentially trading months/years of use of your laptop for pennies.

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[os2sam]

So what you're saying is even if I *do* solve one or two shares an hour, they will be stale/worthless, since the block will already have been solved?  Makes sense.

And just to confirm what you already though, my 4200 series card is not supported from all the research I've been able to do.

Pretty much, except for really long blocks, hence the reason to use small PPS pool.

Too bad about the 4200, but my 4670 only does 34.5 Mhash/s.  I wouldn't bother with that anymore, but I run that machine 24/7 as a file and print server so I figured why not mine with it.  And I used it for training purposes mainly.  It's AGP and that was the only AGP GPU I could find still.
Sam

[btc_artist]

However, I will say that there is absolutely no reason anybody should be CPU mining at this time.   Even with free electricity, you will wear out your components faster, especially on a laptop.  You're essentially trading months/years of use of your laptop for pennies.

Fair observation.  At this point I'm only mining to learn how to do it.  I'll have to get a GPU or three if I decide to get serious about this.

Pretty much, except for really long blocks, hence the reason to use small PPS pool.

Thanks.  I will look for a small pool to play around in.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Thanks for the info Sam.  I will look for a Catalyst driver for my 4200 if it is supported.  In the meantime I have switched to the Ufasoft miner and I'm now getting 1.2 Mhash/s. After a few minutes, it still hasn't appeared on my deepbit account page, but I'll let it run for awhile and see if it shows up.

The Mobility 4200 is not supported.

http://developer.amd.com/sdks/AMDAPPSDK/pages/DriverCompatibility.aspx

CPU mining is very likely to be unproductive.  A 1.2MH/s you will earn on average 1 share per hour or about $0.07 per month.  You likely will consume 10x to 50x as much in power.

[os2sam]

However, I will say that there is absolutely no reason anybody should be CPU mining at this time.   Even with free electricity, you will wear out your components faster, especially on a laptop.  You're essentially trading months/years of use of your laptop for pennies.

Fair observation.  At this point I'm only mining to learn how to do it.  I'll have to get a GPU or three if I decide to get serious about this.

Pretty much, except for really long blocks, hence the reason to use small PPS pool.

Thanks.  I will look for a small pool to play around in.

Have fun but don't splash around too much.  I would suggest a PPS pool until you get your AMD GPU's.

I was trying to get you the links to the Hardware Comparison and Mining Rig's but the site seems to be down or gone.  Here are the links in case someone else knows where they are now.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_rig

Sam

[btc_artist]

Have fun but don't splash around too much.  I would suggest a PPS pool until you get your AMD GPU's.

I was trying to get you the links to the Hardware Comparison and Mining Rig's but the site seems to be down or gone.  Here are the links in case someone else knows where they are now.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_rig

Thanks, I'll try to snag those links out of Google cache.

[dietwice]

Hello,

I had to be paid about an hour ago and I see that payment in the log (https://deepbit.net/payments), but I don't see it in my wallet and when I try to see the transaction details (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3dea894a2f2c5a37c48513db618dabc695c08370f45e228279c2619d9745f592) it says "No such transaction".

Are there any problems with payouts?

Thanks.

[dishwara]

Hello,

I had to be paid about an hour ago and I see that payment in the log (https://deepbit.net/payments), but I don't see it in my wallet and when I try to see the transaction details (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3dea894a2f2c5a37c48513db618dabc695c08370f45e228279c2619d9745f592) it says "No such transaction".

Are there any problems with payouts?

Thanks.

No problem with payouts & the link shows 0.77900625 btc in the transaction & address.

[dietwice]

I've checked again later and all were ok, thanks.

[soptik]

Hello,

I had to be paid about an hour ago and I see that payment in the log (https://deepbit.net/payments), but I don't see it in my wallet and when I try to see the transaction details (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3dea894a2f2c5a37c48513db618dabc695c08370f45e228279c2619d9745f592) it says "No such transaction".

Are there any problems with payouts?

Thanks.

I have the same problem - transaction is in payment history, but it still isn't in blockchain (searched after 1 hour). Was the deepbit payout system changed to send transaction not imediately but after some time?

EDIT: Trasaction finally arrived - after some 70 minutes.

[Crypt_Current]

Any plans to start merged mining?

[[Tycho]]

So what you're saying is even if I *do* solve one or two shares an hour, they will be stale/worthless, since the block will already have been solved?  Makes sense.

Not worthless if your miner supports long polling. But not really profitable.
The average time to generate a share at 435 Khps is 2 hours, 44 minutes, and 33 seconds

[[Tycho]]

I have the same problem - transaction is in payment history, but it still isn't in blockchain (searched after 1 hour). Was the deepbit payout system changed to send transaction not imediately but after some time?
EDIT: Trasaction finally arrived - after some 70 minutes.

Nothing was changed. Sometimes we have a long round and sometimes there are too many transactions to include.
It's normal. You just need to wait until it gets confirmed if you see the transaction in your payments history.

[cablepair]

However, I will say that there is absolutely no reason anybody should be CPU mining at this time.   Even with free electricity, you will wear out your components faster, especially on a laptop.  You're essentially trading months/years of use of your laptop for pennies.

Fair observation.  At this point I'm only mining to learn how to do it.  I'll have to get a GPU or three if I decide to get serious about this.

Pretty much, except for really long blocks, hence the reason to use small PPS pool.

Thanks.  I will look for a small pool to play around in.

Have fun but don't splash around too much.  I would suggest a PPS pool until you get your AMD GPU's.

I was trying to get you the links to the Hardware Comparison and Mining Rig's but the site seems to be down or gone.  Here are the links in case someone else knows where they are now.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_rig

Sam

I think the wiki is getting DDoSd or something, its crazy slow for me

any case heres a mirror:

http://btcnetwork.com/wiki/index.php?title=BitCoin_Mining_Hardware_CPU/GPU_Comparison

[os2sam]

I think the wiki is getting DDoSd or something, its crazy slow for me

any case heres a mirror:

http://btcnetwork.com/wiki/index.php?title=BitCoin_Mining_Hardware_CPU/GPU_Comparison

Thanks, I've got it bookmarked.
Sam

[cablepair]

cool and if your ever bored and want to mirror more stuff from the official wiki feel free to start some more pages on that wiki - back months ago when the wiki was down for a couple of days I put that up to serve as a mirror for times like that

[Fiyasko]

Is anyone else's MH/s speed being Misread? I have 24/7 miners going, I've altered nothing,
By math, Im doing 2600mh/s
By Deepbit Readings, Im doing 2700mh/s
About 40hrs ago i started to be being read from deepbit as only doing 2200mhash/s
.....
So i checked my end for miner down's or failing clocks, or stales, Nothings changed.
But yet im being under calculated by 400mh/sec
Now i know the way that deebit measures how fast miners are going isnt entirely accurate, But a 400mh/s miscalculation lastin for a day now? Thats just Messed Up.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Is anyone else's MH/s speed being Misread? I have 24/7 miners going, I've altered nothing,
By math, Im doing 2600mh/s
By Deepbit Readings, Im doing 2700mh/s
About 40hrs ago i started to be being read from deepbit as only doing 2200mhash/s
.....
So i checked my end for miner down's or failing clocks, or stales, Nothings changed.
But yet im being under calculated by 400mh/sec
Now i know the way that deebit measures how fast miners are going isnt entirely accurate, But a 400mh/s miscalculation lastin for a day now? Thats just Messed Up.

By math?  What does your miner say.

How many shares have you submitted in last 24 hours? 

Deepbit (and any pool) hashing speed indicator is based on shares (the only thing deepbit or any pool can see).

BTW: Deepbit uses a rolling 15min IIRC for speed calculation so just because it showed 2200 a day ago and now doesn't mean it was constantly 2200 over last 24 hours.

[Fiyasko]

I have one rig running at 1108mh/s (1x6990 and 1x5830)
Another with dual 6870's running at 614mh/s 
Another with another 6990 running at 828mh/s
and my brothers comp running at 198mh/s with his 5770

"Average in last 24 hours: 1666814"

[DeathAndTaxes]

I have one rig running at 1108mh/s (1x6990 and 1x5830)
Another with dual 6870's running at 614mh/s 
Another with another 6990 running at 828mh/s
and my brothers comp running at 198mh/s with his 5770

"Average in last 24 hours: 1666814"

Wait 1,666,814 shares in 24 hours?  Sure about that?  That is like 80GH/s.