rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;)

[Miz4r]

Life on earth is 3.5 billion years old, the life of the universe is 17 billion years. Before our star was even born life could have existed elsewhere for 13 billion years!!!

Think of what we have discovered about DNA and life in a mere 100 years of modern science. Now fast forward even 1 billion years from now!!!

It is more probable than not that we are simply an experiment in creation by what we either call Aliens or Gods. The religious prefer God because they have no other explanation for it. In a billion years will we have harnessed the knowledge of the suns, the galaxy, DNA, life itself? Will we not be able to travel through space at our will? Will we not be Gods to others? Of course we will. We have historical proof, Columbus was a God to the Americas.

Earth is a fish bowl, a petri dish, a scientific experiment, we are the subjects, for now.

Universe is 13.8 bil years old, not 17 bil
Life on earth is 3.8 bil years old

However, the rest of the post is pure speculation. There is no evidence for or against it.
We need more data, but the simplest analysis suggests that IF intelligent life was widespread, Earth would be colonized long time ago (probably hundreds of millions of years if not billions) just as almost every little island in the Pacific was colonized. In fact, it has been shown that it would take ONLY 4-5 mil years to completely colonize the galaxy once the spread begins.

Do you really think that if we ever go out into space and are able to visit other planets we would actually kick the inhabitors out and create a place for ourselves to live? I would think we would have evolved long beyond such barbaric practices. There will probably be something like the prime directive in Star Trek which would prevent us from interfering with other cultures on other planets. And also life can come in forms we might not even have thought of, things we can't even see with our limited five senses. They may already be all around us without us even noticing them.

[Bitcopia]

It would be nice if this forum was about TA again. Come back Risto!!

[Wary]

It would be nice if this forum was about TA again. Come back Risto!!

TA is so boooring! EI and LSD is much more fun! 

[cAPSLOCK]

It would be nice if this forum was about TA again. Come back Risto!!

Well... perhaps in the wake of the Mallathon talk of drugs and outer space are not entirely inappropriate.

But I feel ya.

[BTCfan1]

so can we assume we will know the auction results start of business day Monday?  9am EST?

[molecular]

so can we assume we will know the auction results start of business day Monday?  9am EST?

I don't think they will publish the results.

[vokain]

so can we assume we will know the auction results start of business day Monday?  9am EST?

I don't think they will publish the results.

I think you can tell from the market price though

[zimmah]

I believe the Universe is absolutely teeming with (intelligent) life, but not all life is in the form we can see or recognize yet. However I think we will make great discoveries in this matter within the next 100 years which will turn our entire world view upside down, if we don't kill ourselves beforehand that is. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we are already being visited, studied and observed by more advanced forms of life, and that they're keeping a low profile on purpose.

Or perhaps 'we' have been visited, and studied by more advanced lifeforms tens of thousands of years ago, and modern man is the result of a little alien manipulation on a 'naturally evolving' ape species. Perhaps this is why modern man is alone in both his tendency and ability to exploit and detach himself from the environment which ultimately created him and sustains him.

This 'revelation' of being part alien came to me on a DMT trip. Although it seemed realer than real at the time, I don't know if its true or not. If it were true, how would we possibly know or 'proev' it, if this alien entity operated on a completely different plane of reality and time scale from what we can comprehend? Would a soldier ant in an ant colony in some university research station be able to even begin to fathom the existence of the teams of scientists who were responsible for ensuring the foundation of the ant colony (perhaps genetically engineered) or what their objectives might be? Of course not.

Sounds possible, people who claim to have been abducted or contacted by alien beings are saying a similar thing as you here. But yeah it's hard to proof unless those beings decide to make themselves visible to the public and give an open press conference to explain everything to us. I've always felt that the reality bubble we humans live in and experience is only a small bubble within a much bigger reality we can't even begin to fathom (yet). Like a fish in the water can't even begin to comprehend things like planets, stars and galaxies maybe we can't even begin to comprehend other things that for other more advanced life forms seem pretty obvious. We humans are able to expand our own reality bubble though, like we used to know nothing about stars and galaxies either. Maybe one day things like telepathy and moving through other dimensions will be just as normal to us as is riding a car now.

I never used DMT myself but I do remember an LSD trip where I was convinced I had broken my own reality and I was stuck in my own personal hell forever. Time stopped being fluid and chronological and felt like a shattered piece of glass, I was constantly being flung back and forth in time and saw very quick sketches of what was going on around me but it happened really fast and I could make no logical sense of anything at the time. It was extremely confusing and disorienting, losing one's grip on reality like that is probably one of the worst things that can happen to a conscious person. Some of those quick sketches I remember seeing at the beginning of my trip actually happened somewhere at the end according to my friends who were with me at the time, and vice versa, it was all just a jumbled mess until I finally came out of it 2,5 hours later. This trip made me think about how consciousness and time are very closely connected, and how little we humans know about these things. Probably just as much as fish know about our sun and other galaxies.

I think you may have a point.

I sometimes (very rarely) experience déjà-vu, mostly when I have a period of lack of sleep.

However these cases of Déjà-vu are a bid weird. The first time I 'remember' something while I am in a sleep-like state, but probably not actually sleeping. However I try to make sense of these memories but I can't, because things happen and thoughts occur to me that can not possibly be my own thought and actions. For example once I had such a 'memory' from me sitting in a classroom, but I was not even going to school back than. Then, months or even years later when the first few 'scenes' of that memory happen I start to remember the whole scene (which usually lasts 5 to 20 seconds) and I can repeat word-by-word what happens, and I can even remember my own thoughts. And always it is exactly as I remembered it.

It's like I have been there before, but I really haven't.

Time does not appear to be truly linear, it's just how we normally experience it.

How I know that they aren't my own thoughts/actions

I think about things I have never heard of, or about persons I don't even know. (On one occasion I had thoughts about being in love with a person I have not ever met, and didn't know. I was confused, why I was having thoughts about a person I did not even know to exist? Right now I met that person though, a coupe of years ago actually, and indeed I experienced the same scene as I saw it before, but it only made sense the second time, they never make sense the first time).

I am hanging out with people I don't know as if I'm familiar with them.

I am thinking about concepts I don't even understand or know

Such things...

[Its About Sharing]

How did we get on the topic of drugs, instead of TA?

I think it started with It's all about Sharing saying "As Terrence McKenna said, We are a part of Nature, we come from it." on June 15th.

Thank you. Perhaps one of my greatest honors in recent internet memory.

And on a further serious note, this is inevitable. As I've proposed before, Crypto currencies and related technologies are going to shift our
reality some. I really see what is happening as an exponentially shifted Industrial Revolution, or better yet, a NEW AGE.
Boundaries are getting thinner fellas. You can run, but you can't hide.
A taste of the red pill is here.

Its about sharing

[BitchicksHusband]

It is diffucult to calculate the unknowable probabilities.
As an example, Drake equation together with Kepler data suggest that life should be all over the Universe, but so far-no indication of intelligence being present anywhere else-Fermi's paradox. My point is-it is diffucult to calculate the true probability of an event when too many variables are involved.

If you were intelligent, would you call Earth?

If you were intelligent, would you DESIGN Earth?

[BitchicksHusband]

Columbus was a God to the Americas.

your posting is fine, but not this part. columbus was a cruel slave trader. he started a massive exploitation of people, slave trade with small girls for sex, introduced bad diseases and much more.

http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/od/thevoyagesofcolumbus/a/09columbustruth.htm (and much more)

most of the "americans" do not celebrate columbus day at all, rather, they hate that day.

and about discovering america, the name you should have in your head is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leif_Erikson

Do you have an ACTUAL historical reference (not a PC "history book" style reference) to Columbus being a slave trader?

[BitchicksHusband]

Life on earth is 3.5 billion years old, the life of the universe is 17 billion years. Before our star was even born life could have existed elsewhere for 13 billion years!!!

Think of what we have discovered about DNA and life in a mere 100 years of modern science. Now fast forward even 1 billion years from now!!!

It is more probable than not that we are simply an experiment in creation by what we either call Aliens or Gods. The religious prefer God because they have no other explanation for it. In a billion years will we have harnessed the knowledge of the suns, the galaxy, DNA, life itself? Will we not be able to travel through space at our will? Will we not be Gods to others? Of course we will. We have historical proof, Columbus was a God to the Americas.

Earth is a fish bowl, a petri dish, a scientific experiment, we are the subjects, for now.

Universe is 13.8 bil years old, not 17 bil
Life on earth is 3.8 bil years old

However, the rest of the post is pure speculation.

Sounds like all speculation then.  How many times has the supposed age of the universe changed in the last 20 years?  Why believe it this time?

[David Latapie]

I believe the Universe is absolutely teeming with (intelligent) life, but not all life is in the form we can see or recognize yet. However I think we will make great discoveries in this matter within the next 100 years which will turn our entire world view upside down, if we don't kill ourselves beforehand that is. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we are already being visited, studied and observed by more advanced forms of life, and that they're keeping a low profile on purpose.

Watch this and ponders

Christophe Adami - Finding life we can't imagine

The main reason why we did not find extrasolar planets for so long is that we did not know where to find. Well, Adami is proposing a solution to this "we were not looking at the right place" problem for the matter of alien life. And this is a damn seducing idea
Plus, it works for biologic life, digital life and memetic life.

One of my favourite TED talks

[molecular]

so can we assume we will know the auction results start of business day Monday?  9am EST?

I don't think they will publish the results.

I think you can tell from the market price though

US Marshal's #bitcoin auction results out within 3 hours.  Should be strong.

(@dan_pantera)

I guess that means "results to participants".

[nioc]

Life on earth is 3.5 billion years old, the life of the universe is 17 billion years. Before our star was even born life could have existed elsewhere for 13 billion years!!!

Think of what we have discovered about DNA and life in a mere 100 years of modern science. Now fast forward even 1 billion years from now!!!

It is more probable than not that we are simply an experiment in creation by what we either call Aliens or Gods. The religious prefer God because they have no other explanation for it. In a billion years will we have harnessed the knowledge of the suns, the galaxy, DNA, life itself? Will we not be able to travel through space at our will? Will we not be Gods to others? Of course we will. We have historical proof, Columbus was a God to the Americas.

Earth is a fish bowl, a petri dish, a scientific experiment, we are the subjects, for now.

Universe is 13.8 bil years old, not 17 bil
Life on earth is 3.8 bil years old

However, the rest of the post is pure speculation.

Sounds like all speculation then.  How many times has the supposed age of the universe changed in the last 20 years?  Why believe it this time?

Because our measurements keep getting better to the point that the changes to our estimations get smaller each time.  The last change was due to the information from the Planck satellite which has given us the most precise measurements of the cosmic microwave background radiation.  It detects variations to, if I remember correctly, of around a millionth of a degree.  This changed our best estimate from 13.7 to 13.8 billion years.  You will still see it listed as 13.7 in some places.

Theories are nice but you must do experiments to test them.  

 

[Its About Sharing]

Just wanted to share some of my Gann charts. I have back-tested the ratio's used (comparing many and finding the best over time). Past charts have been very accurate and if you closely study these you will see they are fairly accurate.

The first chart is my "down chart" and the second is my "up" chart. The down chart is longer term and I based the up chart on the break of the downtrend (of course.)
Basically, the red diagonal lines and the black lines are resistance lines. The red bands are resistance/support and the green bands are "boosts" (usually).

On this first chart we are very close to resistance (red) just above current levels. But if we break that then resistance would be the double red band above and to the right.



You can see that the double green band acted as a spring to move up from. And now we are once again in it.
Being above the red diagonal line is significant. That was HEAVY resistance, so we are in a good place overall.

[eat_more_fruit]

TL; DR: We are at 650 in the beginning of July, 2014.

Looks like this particular prediction will come out right. On rpietila's time zone, it may even be exact.

But how long will the price stay at $650? It looks like it is just passing through on its way to higher ground. How high? I guess we need to know more about just what happened at the auction before saying much. But I take it the almighty floodgates will not open just yet; for that, we need the Lawsky announcement on NYS regulatory framework, followed by the SEC's on the Winklevoss ETF.  

On the heels of those two events, we will quickly be able to assess the accuracy of certain other, longer-term predictions.  

[thefunkybits]

TL; DR: We are at 650 in the beginning of July, 2014.

Looks like this particular prediction will come out right. On rpietila's time zone, it may even be exact.

Risto is a boss, this is spooky accurate.

[ArticMine]

The going rate before the announcement was 650 so anything below is already a discount.

Well it looks like the coins at auction went for a premium. https://twitter.com/barrysilbert and https://twitter.com/BitcoinBreak/status/483698871802277889. The question now becomes: How big a premium?

One thing is becoming clear those who sold in anticipation of this auction are likely taking a loss. The question again becomes: How big a loss?

[criptix]

The going rate before the announcement was 650 so anything below is already a discount.

Well it looks like the coins at auction went for a premium. https://twitter.com/barrysilbert and https://twitter.com/BitcoinBreak/status/483698871802277889. The question now becomes is how big a premium?

One thing is becoming clear those who sold in anticipation of this auction are likely taking a loss. The question again becomes how big a loss.

i think the question is more when do these people start to realize and panic buy?