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September 08, 2014, 04:13:15 PM
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The bull is strong in this one...
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September 08, 2014, 10:30:20 PM
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FUNDAMENTALS UPDATE:

EBay/PayPal moving towards Bitcoin integration via Braintree and Coinbase:

https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/goodbye-passwords-one-touch-hello-bitcoin
http://blog.coinbase.com/post/96987622472/braintree-partners-with-coinbase-to-accept-bitcoin


- Simplified, secure payments via BTC with any merchant in the USA will soon be possible.

- Coinbase probably figures in Ebay's growth strategy.

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September 09, 2014, 07:42:30 AM
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FUNDAMENTALS UPDATE:

EBay/PayPal moving towards Bitcoin integration via Braintree and Coinbase:

https://www.braintreepayments.com/blog/goodbye-passwords-one-touch-hello-bitcoin
http://blog.coinbase.com/post/96987622472/braintree-partners-with-coinbase-to-accept-bitcoin


- Simplified, secure payments via BTC with any merchant in the USA will soon be possible.

- Coinbase probably figures in Ebay's growth strategy.

I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.
These markets seems to be manufactured.
This whole situation reminds me of the Silk Road event last time.

I bet the price of bitcoin will rise very soon.
Too bad I already went all-in weeks ago.
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.



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September 09, 2014, 08:55:57 PM
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Alipay is not included in the IPO, it's no longer a part of Alibaba.

I decided to no longer use a signature, because people were trolling me about it.
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September 10, 2014, 12:17:21 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.
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September 10, 2014, 12:18:46 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.

This.
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September 10, 2014, 12:27:03 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.

This.

Or Jobs would have decided to make his own Apple crypto.  He really liked to control things.

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September 10, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.

This.

Or Jobs would have decided to make his own Apple crypto.  He really liked to control things.

Jobs would have made an apple app that allows you to pay with your bitcoin at the touch of your finger;
that would be a killer app
perhaps, one fingertip for each btc wallet, so you would be limited to 10  Smiley
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September 10, 2014, 03:01:34 AM
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Apple is too reliant on the way things are to touch bitcoin until the money supply/marketcap is much larger, in my opinion.

Apple has $160 billion liquid USD. Bitcoin is just about 6 billion right now, roughly 4% of the total dirty fiat money they hold.

I suspect they will come eventually but we will need another order of magnitude increase. They want to keep people spending money on their new products, their target market is not us Bitcoin fanatics. Yet.


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September 10, 2014, 03:07:18 AM
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Now im super bullish, paypal just energized the community, user data is up everywhere i look.  Think we might see a break out soon.
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September 10, 2014, 05:51:24 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.

This.

Or Jobs would have decided to make his own Apple crypto.  He really liked to control things.

When I heard this:

Quote from: Jony Ive, Senior VP of Technology at Apple (Taken from The 65 minute mark at: http://www.apple.com/live/2014-sept-event/ )
It's driven Apple from the beginning: This compulsion to take incredibly powerful technology, and make it accessible, relevant, and ultimately personal.

I thought to myself: blockchain is an incredibly powerful technology. And we are all waiting for it to become accessible, relevant, and ultimately personal. Who better to do that, and do it well, than Apple? But I don't think they will be in a rush. They'll let other people futz around for a couple years, and then they'll find a way to incorporate it so that 1) it is user friendly and 2) it doesn't betray the fundamental principles of crypto. There are many instances (e.g. the mouse) where Apple was not the first to market; but they were the first to do it really well.

At least that's what I hope.

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September 10, 2014, 06:25:57 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.

This.

Or Jobs would have decided to make his own Apple crypto.  He really liked to control things.

Jobs would have made an apple app that allows you to pay with your bitcoin at the touch of your finger;
that would be a killer app
perhaps, one fingertip for each btc wallet, so you would be limited to 10  Smiley

He would have approached the CEO of bitcoin to make it Apple-only, when that would not work, he would have started an altcoin.
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September 10, 2014, 08:16:06 AM
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jobs would have sued satoshi, accusing him of using apple source code.
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September 10, 2014, 09:23:49 AM
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I think the satoshi FUD is strongly related to the paypal announcement.

Agreed.

At least there is no doubt that we are talking about the highest stakes. To the above update, you may add:

Ebay, Apple, Alibaba, Google to compete for the global online payments market.

- Ebay/PayPal are actively pursuing the incorporation of Bitcoin.

- Apple is partnering with Visa/MC/AmEx. But should this solution prove to be less profitable than a Bitcoin-based one --it is a challenge-- Apple can switch, or it can add Bitcoin. In any case, for antitrust reasons (with recent MS precedent), Apple will probably not be able to shut out alternative payment solutions.

- Google's Wallet seems to lag. Google is still free to incorporate Bitcoin and appears to have contemplated it. Same goes for Amazon.

- Alibaba/Alipay seems more hindered to adopt Bitcoin given Chinese regulations. On the other hand, it is about to issue a very large IPO on the NYSE, I am not sure how being publicly traded on an American exchange impacts its regulatory framework wrt BTC.




Man apple is headed down in a hurry... Jobs would have adopted bitcoin long ago.

This.

Or Jobs would have decided to make his own Apple crypto.  He really liked to control things.

When I heard this:

Quote from: Jony Ive, Senior VP of Technology at Apple (Taken from The 65 minute mark at: http://www.apple.com/live/2014-sept-event/ )
It's driven Apple from the beginning: This compulsion to take incredibly powerful technology, and make it accessible, relevant, and ultimately personal.

I thought to myself: blockchain is an incredibly powerful technology. And we are all waiting for it to become accessible, relevant, and ultimately personal. Who better to do that, and do it well, than Apple? But I don't think they will be in a rush. They'll let other people futz around for a couple years, and then they'll find a way to incorporate it so that 1) it is user friendly and 2) it doesn't betray the fundamental principles of crypto. There are many instances (e.g. the mouse) where Apple was not the first to market; but they were the first to do it really well.

At least that's what I hope.

i would buy applecoin if it had a limited supply.
i hope one day apples does adopt though - that will be one awesome day
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September 10, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
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i would buy applecoin if it had a limited supply.

I wouldn't. Not if tx are censorable by apple and/or my identity known to apple.

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September 10, 2014, 01:01:14 PM
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i would buy applecoin if it had a limited supply.

I wouldn't. Not if tx are censorable by apple and/or my identity known to apple.

I'd be standing around when they are handing them out for free Wink
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September 10, 2014, 01:24:04 PM
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i would buy applecoin if it had a limited supply.

I wouldn't. Not if tx are censorable by apple and/or my identity known to apple.

True. Also they know your location.

I can see someone standing in a shop wanting to buy a cup of coffee and the terminal says "Apple has disallowed this purchase, go to Starbucks it's around the corner". Cheesy

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September 10, 2014, 01:42:08 PM
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Re: iWatch... I mean Apple Watch:

"It also comes with Apple Pay so you can use your watch like a credit card, and trust us, Apple will keep your banking information very secure; just like all those nude pics..."  Undecided
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September 10, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
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Re: iWatch... I mean Apple Watch:

"It also comes with Apple Pay so you can use your watch like a credit card, and trust us, Apple will keep your banking information very secure; just like all those nude pics..."  Undecided

they can't call it iWatch as that's the name of the program they gave to the govt to use with cctv cameras
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