[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[noobtrader]

Ouch.  Dash's poor design decisions and resultant bad architecture reliant on trusted 3rd party Masternodes are not fixable problems.

Evan is like the sweaty stressed meme guy deciding which red button to press:
1. Leave InstantSend broken and abandon claim to be digital cash, or,
2. fork Decred and move the entire Dash coin distribution to a new blockchain via 1:1 airdrop.

But option 1 isn't viable because Dash's code was copy/pasted from an ancient Bitcoin release, full of exploitable zero-day bugs and thousands of commits behind Core 0.15.

If your friends want to test their theories I'd be happy to fund such research.  Let's see how many bad apples it takes to spoil the entire bunch.

Since exchanges are at risk of being drained using double-spent Dash, we need to put on our white hats and secure the vulnerable funds before the black hats get them first.

Another way to prevent loss would be to use Chris Jeffery's oomkiller attack to brick Masternodes until the network is paralyzed or at least segmented into uselessness.

I'll give 1 BTC to the first person who publishes modified weaponized Masternode code capable of carrying out this experiment.

The sooner we shut this scam down the better.  The pictures of poor desperate Venezuelans and retarded Iowan children being OneCoined trigger my sheepdog instincts.  

Give me 10 btc and a month and u got a deal

did you guys just announce to the world of your criminal intent ?   EDIT :  again ? like the last time icetrollero promises to exposes Dash's weakness ? LOL

[qwizzie]

Network Strength Comparison with regards to Sybil-Attack

Monero : 1000 full nodes
Cost to setup a full node : $5 per node
Cost of Sybil Attack : $5 x 1000 = $5000
Network Strength on itself : Weak
Network Strength against Sybil Attack : Very Weak

Dash : 4552 masternodes
Cost to setup a masternode : $346,010 per masternode
Cost of Sybil Attack : $346,010 x 4552 = $1,575,037,520
Network Strength on itself : Strong
Network Strength against Sybil Attack : Very Strong

Note : There is currently not enough Dash circulating around to even try a Sybil Attack

[qwizzie]

Dash price outbreak in progress : stay tuned...

[kslavik]

Dash price outbreak in progress : stay tuned...

Huge buys on bithump. Koreans definetly liked Dash. I'll aim for ATH in btc. Than I might short it.

[wepobid]

everyone, I want to buy antminer d3 15gh/s dash miner .. from nodecrypto.com... anyone pre order this??

[kointrend]

Dash price outbreak in progress : stay tuned...

Huge buys on bithump. Koreans definetly liked Dash. I'll aim for ATH in btc. Than I might short it.

Impressive, 58% of the market  

Come on, eat just five millions to pass litecoin  

edit: Done! 

[kostepanych2]

Lol, I mined 24 darkcoins in the beginning of 2014 with the GPU of my desktop PC.
It's good that I not sold it off in that time  .

[afbitcoins]

Not to mention slow transaction times, bloated blockchain, almost non existant official releases, not very many full nodes on the network, and of course the opaque blockchain in which you have to trust there is no bad actor stealthily minting coins they shouldn't. But apart from that. Hey at least Monero has a graphical UI these days. It took a while.

Whoah hold on there buddy that is pure disinformation.

From what I researched Monero has over 1k nodes, well geographically dispersed, pretty decent for a project of it's size, while Dash's Masternode allegations still stand, due to it's costly nature we don't know whether it's the orignal devs setup the Masternodes or not, I personally highly doubt that many people have that much money to throw out on a node so, at the very least people should be vigilant about the Masternodes. So a sybil attack is more probable on Dash.

And you also seem to confuse Monero with Zcash. It's Zcash that has a totally non-transparent blockchain with "trusted" initialization. Monero is decentralized and trustless.


Now I don't know about "bloated blockchain", that's such a redundant term, almost everyone uses it to criticize a competitor. And the last time I sent a Monero TX (wasn't that long ago), the TX confirmed pretty quickly with decent fees.


So I think you are just trying to discredit Monero here from a competitor's point of view.


You are right on the GUI part though, I really had to learn the console commands just to make a wallet, pretty gruesome nerdy work, but I think it was worth it. A better GUI and possible mobile apps and such should be put out in the future though.

These are my actual first hand experiences when I tried using Monero. Admittedly from a while back, more than a year ago. But the experience was aweful. Maybe things have improved. I didn't know the number of nodes had crept up, last time I looked it was less than one thousand. I am not confused about Monero and Zcash. Both have opaque blockchains. You don't seem to get it, despite toknormals posts on the subject. Ah well. You can take a horse to water but not make it drink. By the way the ONLY reason I am even mentioning Monero is because you popped up on here going on about Monero versus Dash like its some kind of competition. 

[K~Ehleyr]

It's only Monero people who ever bring up Monero in this thread, and then claim there's some kind of competition.  Comparing Dash and Monero nowadays is like comparing an iPhone and a paperclip.  Sure, if you want to hold documents together you're better choosing the paperclip, but then declaring the iPhone inferior because your papers fell on the floor just makes you look stupid.

[afbitcoins]

It's only Monero people who ever bring up Monero in this thread, and then claim there's some kind of competition.  Comparing Dash and Monero nowadays is like comparing an iPhone and a paperclip.  Sure, if you want to hold documents together you're better choosing the paperclip, but then declaring the iPhone inferior because your papers fell on the floor just makes you look stupid.

 

Coin market cap looks nice just now, only Dash in green. And currently sitting above Litecoin

[stealth923]

It's only Monero people who ever bring up Monero in this thread, and then claim there's some kind of competition.  Comparing Dash and Monero nowadays is like comparing an iPhone and a paperclip.  Sure, if you want to hold documents together you're better choosing the paperclip, but then declaring the iPhone inferior because your papers fell on the floor just makes you look stupid.

Quote of the month haha gold!

[Diego24]

It's only Monero people who ever bring up Monero in this thread, and then claim there's some kind of competition.  Comparing Dash and Monero nowadays is like comparing an iPhone and a paperclip.  Sure, if you want to hold documents together you're better choosing the paperclip, but then declaring the iPhone inferior because your papers fell on the floor just makes you look stupid.

Monero has Fluffypony ... with a guy like that in your team, your coin is supposed to fail hard.

[iCEBREAKER]

It's only Monero people who ever bring up Monero in this thread, and then claim there's some kind of competition. 

There is some kind of competition.  More than one kind, but let's just focus on ring signatures vs DarkSend (now RingCT vs PrivateSend).

Do you know that although Evan is a smart, dedicated Dev, his solution to anonymity is NOT the best solution out there?

Google 'ring signiture,' google 'monero,' google 'darkwallet,' and you will find that you have put your trust a good solution, but NOT the best solution.

You dark loyalist's have a wierd saviour complex about your dev. He is alright, but he has nothing on the dev's of ring signature coins. They are hackers. They are genuine cryptographers. Evan Duffield is an everyday software designer who wanted to have a go at solving the anonymity problem.

Ring signatures are going to be implemented in V2. I will begin development immediately after I opensource V1.

I work on this full time.

That was three years ago.  Now it's 2017 and Dash's PrivateSend is still expensive, slow and ineffectual compared to Monero's RingCT.

IIRC gmax calld it "harmful garbage." 

[Diego24]

It's only Monero people who ever bring up Monero in this thread, and then claim there's some kind of competition.  

There is some kind of competition.  More than one kind, but let's just focus on ring signatures vs DarkSend (now RingCT vs PrivateSend).

As far as I remember Monero people have always claimed their coin was special but then I got shocked when I heard that Monero had a flaw that could allow people to create Monero out of thin air. I know they supposedly fixed it recently but the question is if we can trust this modification  . And then they have this idiot in their team called Fluffypony that doesn't help the team's credibility. 

[ilic]

The higher the price of DASH the more these Monero losers hijack the DASH thread.  

They must absolutely hate the fact they backed the wrong horse!!

Keep the shit talk coming mofos, if anything it just discredits Monero even more and pushes people to DASH!!  You sure as hell dont see DASH supporters crashing the Monero thread every day badmouthing it, even though it probably deserves it.  DASH supporters are a little better than that.

[qwizzie]

Interesting pull request : https://github.com/dashpay/dash/pulls

Cool, it got integrated into 12.2

Also it looks like we get more details about Instantsend and its security concerns in 3 days :

[Diego24]

Cool story.  Now let's get back on topic.

It is not a story.

https://getmonero.org/2017/05/17/disclosure-of-a-major-bug-in-cryptonote-based-currencies.html

You are very worried about Dash ... maybe you should start worrying about your own coin.

 

[NibiruHybrid]

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[NibiruHybrid]

Damn - Monero has some really big problems right now!

I'm not really surprised to see Monero trolls in the Dash thread trying to kick up a stink as we're the coin to beat and launched before they did.

Can someone please explain to me why Monero Avg Transactions Fees are over $100 for last 5 days!!!!

No Fluff just Facts!

See here: https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jOcZuioPUZ6g9O/giphy.gif

[Diego24]

Damn - Monero has some really big problems right now!

I'm not really surprised to see Monero trolls in the Dash thread trying to kick up a stink as we're the coin to beat and launched before they did.

Can someone please explain to me why Monero Avg Transactions are over $100 for last 5 days!!!!

No Fluff just Facts!

See here: https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jOcZuioPUZ6g9O/giphy.gif

Lol, poor Monzero