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[Revelations86]

Watching this drop is so painful.   Do you guys recommend sell and buy back lower or hold?

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[tungfa]

Watching this drop is so painful.   Do you guys recommend sell and buy back lower or hold?

i think it is too late to sell (do not fall in the trap and be felt behind)

[sidhujag]

No clue how you researched that and came to that conclusion (you didn't provide any reference) but if you are realy interested in a best privacy then you should make a more serious reasearch in that subject. QC is far more advanced already today than what most ppl do realize.

You may see Mixing as technical inferior and from a crypto technical standpoint it certainly is however the mixing has the clear advantage that you will not be able to break it in afterward ever because it is not a technical fancy encryption on the open block chain for all enternity where you can put QC and whatever else we will see in the future on it later to crack it.

I agree somewhat with you that the MC communication best should be encrypted.
I myself am not even useing DASH privacy features. Not because I don't trust it but because so far it was of no real use to me.
Dash is meanr to become digital cash. The private Send is just a usable addition

Monero on the other hand has the privacy as the only feature and reason for existing. It has it uses.
But honestly I don't understand why ppl always try to reduce Dash to it's PrivateSend mixing feature so they can compare it with something that only offers that feature and nothing more and than somewhat conclude..oh monero is better.

Dash and monero do not play on the same crypto currency level. monero has it's limited use for the one privacy it has.
Dash aims to become an all user all day digital cash.

Seeing moneroens trying to fight dash all years is something very strange to observe. Monero is no alternative to Dash except you limit yourself to the one privacy feature and even on that one be carefully about what you think is safe thing. Truely research it or you will be in for a surprise in the future. You know what happend with moneroes past private transaction.
Because of a mistake or not..you see how dangerous this permanet in blcokchain thing is if it comes to privacy.
 

Look I have said multiple times that Dash does have it's own value, it's just that from a privacy standpoint it's not good, and advertising Dash as a private currency is pretty dishonest in my opinion.

It does have some good scaling system, and it might be even better than Bitcoin. But it has the same privacy problems as any other 1.0 type currency. So on that level I think Monero is better, that's all I said in the article.

Regarding the QC things. I think a lot of them are scaremongerings. Even the DWAVE or what was it's name. That is a total nonsense, it's not even a quantum computer, it's only as quick as a supercomputer in some cases even slower....

I believe the most q-bits that they have successfully put together was like 4 bits which is nowhere near operational, the claims about 64 qbits and 128 qbits are all snake oils.

However even then certain encryption algorihms to my understanding are unbreakable even with quantum computers because only certain operations are vulnerable.

So all this QC scaremingering is nonsense. Monero's encryption is probably not vulnerable to any kind of quantum computing that they can invent in the near future, so I don't worry about that.

you are correct that you wrote a lengthy article, unfortunetely that lengthy article is thoroughly lacking :

* objectivity (a clear bias towards Monero is detectable throughout the article)
* knowledge about Dash, its privacy technology and the inner workings of its budget and governance system (creating a thread on Dashtalk and spending some time on Dash's testnet would have helped a lot i suspect)
* understanding that a good analysis consists of more then just copy & pasting comments from Bitcointalk forum to Steemit (frankly that is just lazy article writing)

Having said all that, i do want to congratulate you on the $5.61 that you raised on Steemit with your article.

    

Maybe I would have been kess biased if I would have not received that treatment from the community.

That being said, again I am not saying that Dash is worthless, it has it's value, obviously, you can see the price.

But I am just criticizing it's privacy technology, which is very weak in my opinion.

I agreed with the article as far as zcash and bitcoin were concerned but struggled to go far into the Dash assessment and didn't reach the Monero part. Your 'research' entailed a chat with someone on this thread. That is no research at all. Frankly I have better things to do with my time. Maybe if I had persisted and managed to read more I might have found some real research, I'll never know. But I do know that noone has yet broken Dash coin mixing, as far as I know there is a significant bounty for someone who does.

Like you I also tried Dash and Monero when I first got interested in anonymity. My experiences with Monero were extremely disappointing and I feel I gave it much more than a fair shot. The full  node was flaky and I couldn't run it. There was not even a graphical wallet, only a website. Dash versus Monero is no contest. I have concluded that Monero offers nothing for me. This is in total contrast to my experience of Dash.

No I have done my research separately, I have read topics on stackexchange about some of the encryption system, and read the wikis too. I didn't want it to be too technical. I just pointed out my view on it.

You seem not to understand quantum computing. Dwaves 2k qbit is not a full computer its annealing so only good for.certain things. Google and ibm will have 100 qbit ones end of year. These are general purpose versions! Exciting for some.not so exciting for others. Assymetric encryption is vulnerable. Sha384 and above is safe for now but less is not. I know of an attack on bitcoin even with one way hashes of pubkeys to create base58 addresses but i wont scare the community. I will solve the issues though and am doing research on PQ algos that will be safe. A new elliptical curve is generally needed and one way hashing.

Btw 80 qbits can simulate an entire human body down to cell level.

[qwizzie]

Watching this drop is so painful.   Do you guys recommend sell and buy back lower or hold?

The drop may have been painful too watch, but i think it only effected Dash on its fiat value. Now that large amounts of Bitcoin have been sold, i suspect some of that
will flow back to altcoins and therefore also to Dash.

I think Dash will be breaking into the 0.08 btc range pretty soon and just continue its long-term uptrend.
Basicly what Dash lost in fiat value, it will gain in btc value over time.

You can keep an eye on both the fiat and btc value of Dash here : https://coinalyze.net/



(i asked them to add Kraken and Bithumb as well)

Just be glad you are not into Litecoin at this moment (at least i hope you are not) :




If this continues, i see Dash overtaking Litecoin's marketcap pretty soon :



Poor Icey...

[solidus-crypto]

Good luck - looks very interesting

[afbitcoins]

Watching this drop is so painful.   Do you guys recommend sell and buy back lower or hold?

i think it is too late to sell (do not fall in the trap and be felt behind)

Yes when you get a strong feeling to sell its generally time to resist that urge or even buy. Similar when it is going up and you want to buy more. Thats when you should actually be selling. Easy to say, not easy to do sometimes though.

[profitgenerator212]

But I am just criticizing it's privacy technology, which is very weak in my opinion.

Well, crack it and claim the bounty. Should be simple really.

I can't. But just because I can't that doesnt mean that an adversary with sufficient resources can't.

Somebody who taps all ISP's can easily deanonimize Dash, and it doesn't even have to be a Government. I can even be a 3rd party company that works with the ISP, who can then sell that data in the black market.

Dash is not anonymous, I have done my research on it, you should too.

[toknormal]

Somebody who taps all ISP's can easily deanonimize Dash

That isn't "de-anonymising Dash". That's de-anonymising ISP accounts.

I have done my research on it.

Well, one type of "research" at least



See here for more details.

[profitgenerator212]

You seem not to understand quantum computing. Dwaves 2k qbit is not a full computer its annealing so only good for.certain things. Google and ibm will have 100 qbit ones end of year. These are general purpose versions! Exciting for some.not so exciting for others. Assymetric encryption is vulnerable. Sha384 and above is safe for now but less is not. I know of an attack on bitcoin even with one way hashes of pubkeys to create base58 addresses but i wont scare the community. I will solve the issues though and am doing research on PQ algos that will be safe. A new elliptical curve is generally needed and one way hashing.

Btw 80 qbits can simulate an entire human body down to cell level.

I do understand the dangers of QC, I am just skeptical about the existence of any. It may very well be a scaremongering tactic or a marketing gimmick to sell some computers.

Until I dont see an actual one I will remain skeptical because this is an extraordinary tech and requires extraordinary evidence. Of course by then it will be too late, so I agree, post quantum cryptography is a priority.

[NibiruHybrid]

All Chinese Exchanges May Stop Trading, Crypto Crash Continues

All cryptocurrency exchanges in China may soon stop trading, news which has had a heavy negative impact of the cryptocurrency markets.

As reported by Washington Post researcher Luna Lin, Chinese regulators have required that exchanges make plans to shut down by the day’s end:

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/chinese-exchanges-may-stop-trading-crypto-crash-continues/

[yaoye0o]

All Chinese Exchanges May Stop Trading, Crypto Crash Continues

All cryptocurrency exchanges in China may soon stop trading, news which has had a heavy negative impact of the cryptocurrency markets.

As reported by Washington Post researcher Luna Lin, Chinese regulators have required that exchanges make plans to shut down by the day’s end:

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/chinese-exchanges-may-stop-trading-crypto-crash-continues/

and then? what should i do ,i hold btc eth dash ltc now , i already lost half of my cash . can you give me some advisment

[sidhujag]

You seem not to understand quantum computing. Dwaves 2k qbit is not a full computer its annealing so only good for.certain things. Google and ibm will have 100 qbit ones end of year. These are general purpose versions! Exciting for some.not so exciting for others. Assymetric encryption is vulnerable. Sha384 and above is safe for now but less is not. I know of an attack on bitcoin even with one way hashes of pubkeys to create base58 addresses but i wont scare the community. I will solve the issues though and am doing research on PQ algos that will be safe. A new elliptical curve is generally needed and one way hashing.

Btw 80 qbits can simulate an entire human body down to cell level.

I do understand the dangers of QC, I am just skeptical about the existence of any. It may very well be a scaremongering tactic or a marketing gimmick to sell some computers.

Until I dont see an actual one I will remain skeptical because this is an extraordinary tech and requires extraordinary evidence. Of course by then it will be too late, so I agree, post quantum cryptography is a priority.

9 qubit already exists.. goto the cloud and give it a try. Its easy to.scale once its done. Just a matter of time.

[afbitcoins]

But I am just criticizing it's privacy technology, which is very weak in my opinion.

Well, crack it and claim the bounty. Should be simple really.

I can't. But just because I can't that doesnt mean that an adversary with sufficient resources can't.

Somebody who taps all ISP's can easily deanonimize Dash, and it doesn't even have to be a Government. I can even be a 3rd party company that works with the ISP, who can then sell that data in the black market.

Dash is not anonymous, I have done my research on it, you should too.

Is this what you come up with after toknormals previous post? Oh dear.

Yes I'm sure it is 'easy' to tap 'all' ISPs. And just as easy to then unscamble Dash coin mixing. Or if you are a 3rd party one ISP is enough? Almost trivial really. Thanks for your concern which I've noted.

[MasterMined710]

Dash/Fiat Trading Pairs Added to CEX.io Exchange

Cryptocurrency exchange CEX.io has added Dash, including fiat currency trading pairs.

CEX.io is a UK-based cryptocurrency exchange with over one million users worldwide. With the new integration, Dash trading pairs have been added for USD, GBP and EUR, facilitating the buying of Dash directly for users around the world without having to first go through Bitcoin. According to Dash Core CEO Ryan Taylor, this addition is a particular achievement because of CEX.io’s selectivity:

“We are especially proud to see Dash added as the latest digital currency on CEX.IO’s platform, as they are very selective about the currencies they choose to add. For me, it further validates that Dash is now clearly among the few digital currencies that are relevant for consumers.”
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dashfiat-trading-pairs-added-cex-io-exchange/

[BossBee]

But I am just criticizing it's privacy technology, which is very weak in my opinion.

Well, crack it and claim the bounty. Should be simple really.

I can't. But just because I can't that doesnt mean that an adversary with sufficient resources can't.

Somebody who taps all ISP's can easily deanonimize Dash, and it doesn't even have to be a Government. I can even be a 3rd party company that works with the ISP, who can then sell that data in the black market.

Dash is not anonymous, I have done my research on it, you should too.

  Profitgenerator doing research lol
This guy's been hard shilling Synereo and wildspark for almost a year, a project that's been in development since 2015, that's recently been completed and released to the public and wasn't even worthy enough to get a pump in the largest bull market to date. This guy has zero reputation right now for his FA abilities

[qwizzie]

Dash/Fiat Trading Pairs Added to CEX.io Exchange

Cryptocurrency exchange CEX.io has added Dash, including fiat currency trading pairs.

CEX.io is a UK-based cryptocurrency exchange with over one million users worldwide. With the new integration, Dash trading pairs have been added for USD, GBP and EUR, facilitating the buying of Dash directly for users around the world without having to first go through Bitcoin. According to Dash Core CEO Ryan Taylor, this addition is a particular achievement because of CEX.io’s selectivity:

“We are especially proud to see Dash added as the latest digital currency on CEX.IO’s platform, as they are very selective about the currencies they choose to add. For me, it further validates that Dash is now clearly among the few digital currencies that are relevant for consumers.”
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dashfiat-trading-pairs-added-cex-io-exchange/

Nice timing, with the Dash Conference in London and all  

Link : https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-funds-first-ever-dash-conference-london/

[profitgenerator212]

  Profitgenerator doing research lol
This guy's been hard shilling Synereo and wildspark for almost a year, a project that's been in development since 2015, that's recently been completed and released to the public and wasn't even worthy enough to get a pump in the largest bull market to date. This guy has zero reputation right now for his FA abilities

Not true. Wildspark only exists since a few months. What they have worked on before that was the infrastructure of a blockchain tech, which I don't know how entagled it is with the app itself. The fact that they have put together a cool app in a short amount of time that has the potential to go viral is by itself admirable. It is a cool project.

[TanteStefana2]

Hey guys!  Sorry I don't hang out here very much anymore, I've gotten really busy with family.  BUT I feel the need to talk about one of the people that works tirelessly for Dash.  His name is Abdul Salam Mahamadu, and goes by Cryptolib on slack and I think also the Dash forum.  Cryptolib is a BIG TIME activist and has been involved in numerous projects in Ghana, Africa.  He realizes that economic solutions are essential for Africa to grow and shake corruption and poverty, and he sees cryptocurrency, espcecially Dash, as the key to make it happen.

JZA has even done presentations at his meetups via video, it's amazing how small the world is becoming!  Anyway, Cryptolib has a proposal up to help him fund his "Dash Road Show"  The thing is, ... LOL ... I'm sure most of us have gotten phishing emails from some country in Africa so many times, that we're weary of the authenticity of anyone from there.  I can only guess this is the reason why his very low budget proposal is not doing well.

I want you all to know, Cryptolib, Abdul Salam Mahamadu, is AWESOME!!!  He is the REAL THING.  He is honest and full of goodness as far as I've seen.  You can look him up on the web!  <--- er... does that date me?  Google him! <--- probably still dates me...

OK, here is his VERY reasonable proposal: https://www.dashcentral.org/p/DASHROADSHOWGHANA1 

No, I don't think Dash will see a huge increase in value for funding Cryptolib, Africans are not rich, they're not going to immediately go pour billions of dollars into Dash, raising the price to the moon and beyond.  So WHY fund this proposal?

Because, if Dash is accepted everywhere, in every corner of the world, it becomes the world currency.  There is a treasure trove of talent completely suppressed under corruption and just plain economic suppression.  We may not see adoption in Africa pushing Dash prices to the moon, but if we can open doors, open trade, open avenues for talent to earn money, because they have access to a world who values their product/talent, Dash WILL benefit in the next generation to come. 

Without control of money, wide spread corruption can not survive.  In the United States of America, In Europe, In China, or in Africa.  This might mean peace for our children, and yes I sound like I'm a dreamer, but believe me, an old lady, the world has been in an amazing change in my lifetime, and if we can help it continue to move in the right direction, all Dash people can be immensely proud of being a part of all this!

Please vote, and please vote yes on Cryptolib's Dash Roadshow!

[Lebubar]

I have done my research on it.

Well, one type of "research" at least

This was really funny

[akuzn]

  Profitgenerator doing research lol
This guy's been hard shilling Synereo and wildspark for almost a year, a project that's been in development since 2015, that's recently been completed and released to the public and wasn't even worthy enough to get a pump in the largest bull market to date. This guy has zero reputation right now for his FA abilities

Not true. Wildspark only exists since a few months. What they have worked on before that was the infrastructure of a blockchain tech, which I don't know how entagled it is with the app itself. The fact that they have put together a cool app in a short amount of time that has the potential to go viral is by itself admirable. It is a cool project.

good stuff, researcher