[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[HomoHenning]

it was a long time ago since I have informed myself about the current dev status. does anybody know it? when is the evolution release?

[qwizzie]

it was a long time ago since I have informed myself about the current dev status. does anybody know it? when is the evolution release?

https://github.com/dashpay/dash-roadmap

[profitgenerator212]

I might be sticking around here, who knows I might buy some Dash too, these trolls here almost convinced me.

I'll probably buy an equal amount of Monero and Dash so that I won't have to worry about the fighting between the communities and hedge it out, may the best one win.

[iCEBREAKER]

it was a long time ago since I have informed myself about the current dev status. does anybody know it? when is the evolution release?

Current Dash status = InstantSend has been broken for weeks and no concrete plan (much less working code) has been released to fix the problem of evil Masternode collusion.

That's what happens when you trust 3rd parties like Masternodes.  Your shit gets broken and the world laughs at you.  Every.   Single. Time.

Dash is used to being a laughingstock (often literally the punchline in Core devs' jokes) because of its InstaMine, IPv6, ATM, debit, and privacy/honesty/decentralization failures.

But this time is different.  Leaving InstantSend broken removes all warrants to claim Dash is digital cash, as does the atrocious lack of fungibility created by the giveaway to Coinalytics.

More acutely, Dash is based on an ancient, creaky, dilapidated version of Bitcoin that is full of exploitable 0-day bugs, such as recently disclosed at the Breaking Bitcoin conference.

Worst of all for bagholders, Dash's Evolution is languishing in The Land Of Vaporware while an emerging LTC/DCR/VIA alliance of altcoins are successfully initiating cross-chain atomic swaps.

Dash can't do atomic swaps and can't support Lightning because of Evan The Incompetent Instaminer's idiotic refusal to use segwit for fixing transaction malleability, etc.

Decred and Lightning today showed the world what happens when you prioritize technology over marketing.

https://twitter.com/decredproject/status/910224860625780736


Meanwhile, Dash still hasn't blinded the Masternodes and thus cannot solve its tiny little problem with InstanSend being completely phuX0R'd and unfixable within the self-imposed 2-week deadline.

Apparently the point of Dash is to fund scams like MaxCoin Keiser's Russian vacation, a butt-ugly rented plane, and subsidize an obese self-loathing man-hating racist virtue-signalling blue-hair SJW who shops for problem glasses and generally attention whores under color of TrumpHate.

[qwizzie]

I think we will pass Litecoin in marketcap pretty soon as it seems to be stuck in a downward spiral, while Dash seems to be doing the exact opposite.
I know at least one troll that is not gonna like that, a very icey troll ... a very dull icey troll.

The jealous are possessed by a mad devil and a dull spirit at the same time.
- Johann Kaspar Lavater

Edit : you are now free to delete and repost your post again icey, i know you are thinking about it. Just remember :

[sidhujag]

it was a long time ago since I have informed myself about the current dev status. does anybody know it? when is the evolution release?

Current Dash status = InstantSend has been broken for weeks and no concrete plan (much less working code) has been released to fix the problem of evil Masternode collusion.

That's what happens when you trust 3rd parties like Masternodes.  Your shit gets broken and the world laughs at you.  Every.  Single. Time.

Dash is used to being a laughingstock (often literally the punchline in Core devs' jokes) because of its InstaMine, IPv6, ATM, debit, and privacy/honesty/decentralization failures.

But this time is different.  Leaving InstantSend broken removes all warrants to claim Dash is digital cash, as does the atrocious lack of fungibility created by the giveaway to Coinalytics.

More acutely, Dash is based on an ancient, creaky, dilapidated version of Bitcoin that is full of exploitable 0-day bugs, such as recently disclosed at the Breaking Bitcoin conference.

Worst of all for bagholders, Dash's Evolution is languishing in The Land Of Vaporware while an emerging LTC/DCR/VIA alliance of altcoins are successfully initiating cross-chain atomic swaps.

Dash can't do atomic swaps and can't support Lightning because of Evan The Incompetent Instaminer's idiotic refusal to use segwit for fixing transaction malleability, etc.

Decred and Lightning today showed the world what happens when you prioritize technology over marketing.

https://twitter.com/decredproject/status/910224860625780736


Meanwhile, Dash still hasn't blinded the Masternodes and thus cannot solve its tiny little problem with InstanSend being completely phuX0R'd and unfixable within the self-imposed 2-week deadline.

Apparently the point of Dash is to fund scams like MaxCoin Keiser's Russian vacation, a butt-ugly rented plane, and subsidize an obese self-loathing man-hating racist virtue-signalling blue-hair SJW who shops for problem glasses and generally attention whores under color of TrumpHate.

The problem is they cannot use.block hash.because they do not keep track of masternodes at a per block level.. its a p2p list thats sent prior to.syncing.. in order.to solve.the problem you have to  come up with a deterministic quorum that involves the hash of the block along with input and collateral output.. just using collateral output and tx input gives offchain analysis attack.vectors that make the odds that evam posted in the whitepaper far less convincing for having a quorum you own with minimal number of masternodes.

 I saw this attack was possible before it was posted but didnt really know it can cause double spends so i kept.it between myself and a few others as we just chuckled about it.. but turns out more serious than I had thought..correct me if im wrong.but in order to fix it i think the entire masternode system would need to be reworked as a coloured coin type of implementation.

I also saw a recent push on reworking instantx and not sure if that actually solved the problem more than just patching it by allowing a 15 second window for instantx to complete.. im not sure how that actually prevents any attack here.

[BossBee]

I think we will pass Litecoin in marketcap pretty soon as it seems to be stuck in a downward spiral, while Dash seems to be doing the exact opposite.
I know at least one troll that is not gonna like that, a very icey troll ... a very dull icey troll.

The jealous are possessed by a mad devil and a dull spirit at the same time.
- Johann Kaspar Lavater

Edit : you are now free to delete and repost your post again icey, i know you are thinking about it. Just remember :

I've never seen a guy so terrified on a forum in my life like icey is, poor thing. . . But on the other hand this community should feel honored to have such a passionate dedicated person pouring so much of their irreplaceable time into Dash. 

[Diego24]

existing Masternode owners will sell and only big pockets will be able to afford buying them out and setting up their own Masternodes. According to this argument, the network will then become centralized around these wealthy players.[/size]

This argument can be used for every coin. Big money can buy all Bitcoin, Ethereum miners too.

[Diego24]

I might buy some Dash too

Shit, that means time to flee Dash 

[NibiruHybrid]

US Students Lead On-Campus Dash Promotion, Crowdfund Trip to London Conference

A pair of aspiring Dash developers from Iowa State University have successfully crowdfunded a trip to the Dash conference in London using Dash donations.

August Domanchuk and Jacob Hemmerich, two computer engineering students at Iowa State University with a passion for Dash, are in the process of starting a cryptocurrency student organization on campus and have already hosted several Dash events, including getting their whole dorm floor involved in Dash. They sought to attend the first Dash conference in London this weekend, but as university students with a limited budget, were unable to secure the funding for a transatlantic flight on such short notice. They then turned to the Dash community to help crowdfund their trip through cryptocurrency donations, promising to donate the proceeds to a computer science charity if they fell short of their goal.

Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/us-students-lead-campus-dash-promotion-crowdfund-trip-london-conference/

[profitgenerator212]

I never said that Dash itself is useless, I am just totally unsatisfied with it's privacy promises.

However it can't be worse than BTC or LTC for that matter, in fact in some aspects it's better. And it's relatively cheap.

So that is some potential value there. If Dash would integrate mandatory privacy like Monero did, then it could easily reach the value of ETH.

[BossBee]

I never said that Dash itself is useless, I am just totally unsatisfied with it's privacy promises.

However it can't be worse than BTC or LTC for that matter, in fact in some aspects it's better. And it's relatively cheap.

So that is some potential value there. If Dash would integrate mandatory privacy like Monero did, then it could easily reach the value of ETH.

Dash gives the option of private sending funds because it's anticipating future political attacks that WILL be conducted by governments against fully anonymous coins and the affect that will have on mass adoption. Zoom out on a Macro, political, social, and financial field while considering their interconnectedness and ask your self what will the climate of these sectors be like in 5, 10, 50 years and that's what the Dash devs and Evan have been doing since year one.
Dash plays chess while the majority of crypto is playing checkers and if you look at Dash and still classify it as an anon coin you're a checker a player. It shed the anon niche and dark name for loftier goals of Governance and scale ability which it now stands at the fore front of.

[aigeezer]

If Dash would integrate mandatory privacy like Monero did, then it could easily reach the value of ETH.

That's a curious viewpoint, since Monero itself (presently $96.56 at Coinmarketcap) did not reach the value of ETH ($288.53) despite having "mandatory privacy". Meanwhile, Dash ($340.27) has much higher US$ value than either, which suggests that the market is relatively comfortable with its present trajectory. Even if your view is based on market cap rather than coin value, Monero with its "mandatory privacy" is far below ETH so adding "mandatory privacy" to Dash would seem unlikely to propel it "to easily reach the value of ETH".

My own sense of "value" is not based on market cap fwiw, because market cap is an abstraction that tells me nothing about which goods and services I can buy with the coins in my wallet.

Either way, I'll stick with Dash over the other two - ymmv, which is fine, but I don't understand why you would want to come to the Dash thread and suggest that the coin become something other than Dash, especially something of lower value.

[excellence]

Was this an ICO or a mineable currency?

[MasterMined710]

Dash Conference in Venezuela Draws Over Double Projected Attendees

The first in a series of Dash conferences in Venezuela received over double the expected attendees, as over a thousand have registered for the rest of the conferences.

This year, a series of 12 conferences in Venezuela was funded by the masternode network, scheduled to take place every month in Caracas. The first conference took place this week, and over twice the projected number of attendees came. Eugenia Alcalá Sucre, Dash Caracas lead and organizer of the conference, was very impressed with the turnout:

https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-conference-in-venezuela-draws-over-double-projected-attendees/

[Lebubar]

I never said that Dash itself is useless, I am just totally unsatisfied with it's privacy promises.

However it can't be worse than BTC or LTC for that matter, in fact in some aspects it's better. And it's relatively cheap.

So that is some potential value there. If Dash would integrate mandatory privacy like Monero did, then it could easily reach the value of ETH.

Also to mention that Monero made their privacy model sacrificing some other aspects:  (bringing problems that already have BTC, but without nobody using it ):
-Scaling. During the recent xmr pump the blocks were nearly full already with much less TX/day than btc. (and tx accumulation in mempool)
-Fee. Did you saw that monero have the highest average fee per transactions?

[WastedLTC]

Was this an ICO or a mineable currency?

mineable and still mineable...   way before the days of ICOs

[profitgenerator212]

If Dash would integrate mandatory privacy like Monero did, then it could easily reach the value of ETH.

That's a curious viewpoint, since Monero itself (presently $96.56 at Coinmarketcap) did not reach the value of ETH ($288.53) despite having "mandatory privacy". Meanwhile, Dash ($340.27) has much higher US$ value than either, which suggests that the market is relatively comfortable with its present trajectory. Even if your view is based on market cap rather than coin value, Monero with its "mandatory privacy" is far below ETH so adding "mandatory privacy" to Dash would seem unlikely to propel it "to easily reach the value of ETH".

Monero doesn't have the community size but it has the privacy.

Dash has the community size but it doesnt have privacy, but it is at least decentralized (if this masternode thing would sort itself out eventually) and well organized.

ETH is neither private nor decentralized and it's almost to say pretty unprofessionally organized especially in the DAO fiasco, the ETH Foundation has overwhelming influence and I don't think that is good for a project of that magnitude.

-Fee. Did you saw that monero have the highest average fee per transactions?

I guess privacy has it's own price too.

[HomoHenning]

it was a long time ago since I have informed myself about the current dev status. does anybody know it? when is the evolution release?

https://github.com/dashpay/dash-roadmap

thank you! It seems I had a six senth for this:

DashPay Wallet Alpha (September 2017)

should be announced soon or?

[K~Ehleyr]

I really don't understand why people keep claiming that Dash isn't private or "isn't as private as XY coin".  Dash's privacy so far has not been broken.  What better can you ask for??  No, PrivateSend isn't compulsory and, quite frankly, if it were, Dash would suddenly render itself useless to many real world transactions where users actually want or need to prove their transactions.  Fully private/hidden/buried/appearing only as a dream is great for some users, but that's one use-case that only appeals to one subset of users.  By having optional privacy, Dash is useful for SO MUCH MORE!!!!!!!!!  Not to mention that the Dash blockchain is fully auditable, which is essential for long term value and large scale adoption.  A currency built on a non-transparent blockchain is, in monetary terms, equivalent to magic beans.

Maybe some people don't like how Dash does privacy.  That's fine, go use some other coin.  Choice is a wonderful thing.  But please stop saying Dash isn't private or has weak privacy, unless you can fucking prove it.  Mathematically and empirically, not anecdotally or hypothetically.