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September 16, 2017, 07:06:53 AM


But I am just criticizing it's privacy technology, which is very weak in my opinion.


Well, crack it and claim the bounty. Should be simple really.




I can't. But just because I can't that doesnt mean that an adversary with sufficient resources can't.

Somebody who taps all ISP's can easily deanonimize Dash, and it doesn't even have to be a Government. I can even be a 3rd party company that works with the ISP, who can then sell that data in the black market.

Dash is not anonymous, I have done my research on it, you should too.

Is this what you come up with after toknormals previous post? Oh dear.

Yes I'm sure it is 'easy' to tap 'all' ISPs. And just as easy to then unscamble Dash coin mixing. Or if you are a 3rd party one ISP is enough? Almost trivial really. Thanks for your concern which I've noted.




profitgenerator212 is looking at the wrong direction but i believe he has a grasp of the futility of Dash privacy, which is the first sales pitch of this shitcoin. "the first anonymous crypto" ... well the first anonymous crypto is Bitcoin until...it wasn't anymore.

asking people to crack an encryption here is simply an evasive tactic.

"Blockchain analysis" is the word.

here is an artice to see: https://btcmanager.com/dash-partners-with-coinfirm-to-become-amlkyc-compliant/

and some screenshots to get you guys on your senses.





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Dash now listed on London cryptocurrency exchange


http://www.banklesstimes.com/2017/09/15/dash-now-listed-on-london-cryptocurrency-exchange/

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September 16, 2017, 12:12:31 PM

It is interesting to see these old familiar trolls fall straight back into their obssesive trolling behaviour
(which is most likely nothing more then a mask to cover their insecurity about their own cryptocurrency)

To those trolls in here that know what i'm talking about and are feeling a little blue lately
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Jerry Banfield Proposals Review


This is a story about someone that I think has a less than stellar reputation in the Dash community (no not CS ).  As someone that was pretty new during the ending of the relationship I can only look at the “aftermath.”  I think the issues mostly boil down to personality and temperament.  I may be treading in deep water here but not everyone fits into a specific community.  Dash doesn’t seem to be filled with “high strung, drama loving” folks and Jerry Banfield comes off as very high energy and admits to trying to add “drama” to his videos.

Jerry submitted seven different proposals for creating and advertising videos.  He was funded for 2 and while I don’t have the detailed results it looks like he got viewership levels that where at least as good as other similar proposals.  According to his reporting he spent most of what he received (or more) on Facebook and YouTube advertising.



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September 16, 2017, 01:27:42 PM

I purchased some Dash coins today and still have them on an exchange. I do not feel good to store them there long term and I do not want to store them on a paper wallet. I want to transfer them to a local desktop wallet. What is the best lightweight Dash wallet what does not need to download entire blockchain?
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September 16, 2017, 01:51:57 PM

I purchased some Dash coins today and still have them on an exchange. I do not feel good to store them there long term and I do not want to store them on a paper wallet. I want to transfer them to a local desktop wallet. What is the best lightweight Dash wallet what does not need to download entire blockchain?
"the best" is a matter of taste really. Dash is available on Jaxx http://jaxx.io/ and Exodus https://www.exodus.io/
If you have substantial amount of coins than I would really suggest using some HW wallet - Trezor https://trezor.io/, Ledger Nano S https://www.ledgerwallet.com/products/ledger-nano-s and Keepkey https://www.keepkey.com/ - all of them support Dash.

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September 16, 2017, 01:57:44 PM

Yes. Finally it's the highest time to dash  to reach the sky and the moon. Dash can have a huge involve in cryptocurrency market. I hope it will be the future of the digital and crypto history.
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September 16, 2017, 02:36:43 PM


But I am just criticizing it's privacy technology, which is very weak in my opinion.


Well, crack it and claim the bounty. Should be simple really.




I can't. But just because I can't that doesnt mean that an adversary with sufficient resources can't.

Somebody who taps all ISP's can easily deanonimize Dash, and it doesn't even have to be a Government. I can even be a 3rd party company that works with the ISP, who can then sell that data in the black market.

Dash is not anonymous, I have done my research on it, you should too.

Is this what you come up with after toknormals previous post? Oh dear.

Yes I'm sure it is 'easy' to tap 'all' ISPs. And just as easy to then unscamble Dash coin mixing. Or if you are a 3rd party one ISP is enough? Almost trivial really. Thanks for your concern which I've noted.




profitgenerator212 is looking at the wrong direction but i believe he has a grasp of the futility of Dash privacy, which is the first sales pitch of this shitcoin. "the first anonymous crypto" ... well the first anonymous crypto is Bitcoin until...it wasn't anymore.

asking people to crack an encryption here is simply an evasive tactic.

"Blockchain analysis" is the word.

here is an artice to see: https://btcmanager.com/dash-partners-with-coinfirm-to-become-amlkyc-compliant/

and some screenshots to get you guys on your senses.







Thanks for articulating it out for me, I didnt had the words to properly explain myself, but you hit the nail on it's head.

Yep, Blockchain analysis, metadata, they don't need to crack the TLS enctyption that the nodes might use to relay mixing transactions. They can just look at DNS leaks, crash reports, you name it.

Like this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/nsa-windows_n_4520514.html

There are thousands of other ways to obtain metadata by going around the encryption stuff. So the fact that Dash claims to be private when there are thousands of ways to break or circumvent that anonymization process is just ridiculous.

It's not only that buy saying that something is private, which is clearly not is hishonest, and it might put activists in danger.


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Dmitriy Baimuratov on Dash Business Adoption in Ukraine


Dmitriy Baimuratov of CryptoGroup has been spearheading the integration of Dash into businesses in Ukraine, including making local news headlines for using Dash to pay at the Givi Rubenstein restaurant in Kiev. I spoke with Baimuratov about the progress and challenges facing Dash adoption in Ukraine.


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September 16, 2017, 03:28:18 PM

Looks like we are speeddiving into the 0.08 range now.. lets hope Dash builds some support in the mid 0.08 range.

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I purchased some Dash coins today and still have them on an exchange. I do not feel good to store them there long term and I do not want to store them on a paper wallet. I want to transfer them to a local desktop wallet. What is the best lightweight Dash wallet what does not need to download entire blockchain?

For those who actually need to download the entire blockchain or for those that are looking for a more convient and faster way to download the blockchain,
Dash has a bootstrap (2.3 GB) that you can download and place in the Dash installation directory. You only need to sync the whole thing afterwards.

Link : https://github.com/UdjinM6/dash-bootstrap

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September 16, 2017, 05:06:04 PM



Thanks for articulating it out for me, I didnt had the words to properly explain myself, but you hit the nail on it's head.

Yep, Blockchain analysis, metadata, they don't need to crack the TLS enctyption that the nodes might use to relay mixing transactions. They can just look at DNS leaks, crash reports, you name it.

Like this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/30/nsa-windows_n_4520514.html

There are thousands of other ways to obtain metadata by going around the encryption stuff. So the fact that Dash claims to be private when there are thousands of ways to break or circumvent that anonymization process is just ridiculous.

It's not only that buy saying that something is private, which is clearly not is hishonest, and it might put activists in danger.

God I'm sick of yours guys shit.  If there thousands of ways to break or circumvent the anonymization....then fuck'n do it...or shut the fuck up!  I've been hearing your guys bullshit for eons...and still crickets!  

DASH is not for you..great.  Then move along....but for those that care about how pro-active we are being towards securing our code...read the following:
http://www.banklesstimes.com/2017/08/03/dash-invites-crowd-to-hack-its-blockchain/

we are putting our DASH where our mouth is! Are you?  Didn't think so....
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September 16, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
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September 16, 2017, 06:57:34 PM

Cheesy Profitgenerator doing research lol
This guy's been hard shilling Synereo and wildspark for almost a year, a project that's been in development since 2015, that's recently been completed and released to the public and wasn't even worthy enough to get a pump in the largest bull market to date. This guy has zero reputation right now for his FA abilities
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I was giving my objective comments in the AMP thread. I told people when to sell and when to buy. But profitgenerator didn't like that. So he tried to have me banned there. He demanded positive comments only and FUDders should be banned. Now look at him spreading true nonsense and FUD in the Dash thread. This guy is shameless.
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September 16, 2017, 07:29:43 PM

I purchased some Dash coins today and still have them on an exchange. I do not feel good to store them there long term and I do not want to store them on a paper wallet. I want to transfer them to a local desktop wallet. What is the best lightweight Dash wallet what does not need to download entire blockchain?

I will wait till novemebre to buy.
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Monero vs. Dash

I have completed my analysis on Dash and Monero on the privacy aspect, basically the 2 only currencies that are even worth analysing, the others are really not even worth my time.

I have wrote this lengthy, but throrough article about the subject, the Dash community might find it interesting:

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@profitgenerator/dash-vs-monero


I agreed with the article as far as zcash and bitcoin were concerned but struggled to go far into the Dash assessment and didn't reach the Monero part. Your 'research' entailed a chat with someone on this thread. That is no research at all. Frankly I have better things to do with my time. Maybe if I had persisted and managed to read more I might have found some real research, I'll never know. But I do know that noone has yet broken Dash coin mixing, as far as I know there is a significant bounty for someone who does.

Like you I also tried Dash and Monero when I first got interested in anonymity. My experiences with Monero were extremely disappointing and I feel I gave it much more than a fair shot. The full  node was flaky and I couldn't run it. There was not even a graphical wallet, only a website. Dash versus Monero is no contest. I have concluded that Monero offers nothing for me. This is in total contrast to my experience of Dash.

Without reading any article and even I am not a pro. Dash is more anonymous and private than Monero because with dash you see the coins mixed.
with Monero you see nothing and maybe the coins are sent to ........ before the destination address you are sending to. who knows what they are hidding.
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I purchased some Dash coins today and still have them on an exchange. I do not feel good to store them there long term and I do not want to store them on a paper wallet. I want to transfer them to a local desktop wallet. What is the best lightweight Dash wallet what does not need to download entire blockchain?

I will wait till novemebre to buy.
Why till november ? Isn't the price going to go up after 24 september Dash conference ? Who knows what good news wil come out ...
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Dash is more anonymous and private than Monero because with dash you see the coins mixed.
with Monero you see nothing

Amen to that.

One of the most succinctly stated distinctions between a store of value and a worthless payment rail I've seen.

In blockchains:

 • transparency...is what makes them valuable

 • fungibility...is what makes them private

That's why these two need to be decoupled so that they can be optimised independently of each other. It's also why Dash's privacy model constitutes a far more valuable token than one where you simply bury the entire blockchain under a layer of thick, syrupy encryption that gives cover to corruption and lets "wounds" go septic long before they're even known about.

The "SSL" of crypto: Ok for momentary transfers but potentially toxic for storing value.
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Dash is more anonymous and private than Monero because with dash you see the coins mixed.
with Monero you see nothing

Amen to that.

One of the most succinctly stated distinctions between a store of value and a worthless payment rail I've seen.

In blockchains:

 • transparency...is what makes them valuable

 • fungibility...is what makes them private

That's why these two need to be decoupled so that they can be optimised independently of each other. It's also why Dash's privacy model constitutes a far more valuable token than one where you simply bury the entire blockchain under a layer of thick, syrupy encryption that gives cover to corruption and lets "wounds" go septic long before they're even known about.

The "SSL" of crypto: Ok for momentary transfers but potentially toxic for storing value.


Yes things like this can be happening an noone knows, or maybe some dev like fluffy pony might know  Wink know what I mean  Wink  Wink  Wink

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptonote-currency-bug-allowed-creation-unlimited-number-coins/

Transparency is vital for trust, Monero has none. Look at the trust needed for genesis of zcash. Its the same. Big problem for privacy coins.
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