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September 22, 2017, 03:26:52 PM

iCEBREAKER on fire this week Wink - posts all individually thought out. Excellent !

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He needs a girlfriend ASAP.

Who needs a girlfriend when you're aspiring to an ATH in mockery and insults. If he sticks with it he'll reach a climax round about the same time as the Dash price :-)
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September 22, 2017, 03:32:05 PM

Its awesome to see Monerons Clown Posse so engaged...and caring.  LOL.   Love it... oh by the way...how's Fluffy doing with his DASH masternodes?!?  Rumours have it that you guys are running a bunch of masternodes.  We're on to you Monerons.  Wink
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September 22, 2017, 03:44:31 PM

I am not confused about Monero and Zcash. Both have opaque blockchains.

No you don't get it. The monero Blockchain can be verified by the pubkey, which only you should have anyway the transactions in the block don't matter from decentralization point of view, the crypto is solid and the format is probably not malleable. So it works perfectly.

While Zcash is totally dark, which means that it totally relies on the trusted initialization phase. And Dash is totally open with "optional" privacy whic is also very weak.

Monero is both trustless and private, it's the golden mean between decentralization and privacy.

No you don't get it  Tongue

A pubkey doesn't verify the Monero blockchain, only one single transaction. (thanks for pointing that out chilly2k) (and elaborated on in great detail by toknormal) Trust is required in abundance that opaque blockchains are legit. This is why I don't like zcash, and also one reason (among many others) why I don't like Monero. A bug was caught recently in cryptonote coins which would have allowed undetected coin minting. I'm almost sure fluffypony wouldn't do it on purpose but still, how are you ever sure this isn't happening or will never happen via some other bug?


* What if nodes/miners decide to censor or discriminate transactions above 10,000$...

You're conflating fungibility of the coin supply with "fungibility" of the transacting environment.

They are distinct.


No they are not. You either have fungibility or not. You can't pretend to have fungibility while actually not having it.

It's the same as privacy on Dash. You either have it or you dont. If the TX can be traced back via some blockchain analysis, then you neither have privacy nor fungibility. So why pretend that you do?




Thats a big if. It has never happened, despite the big bounty on offer for someone who manages it. Not to mention rival developers of other coins also having vested interest in breaking Dash private send. Stating that it is easy doesn't make it so. 
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Dash Meetups Catch on Across Africa


Dash adoption and awareness has made progress across Africa, with particular success stories in Ghana and Nigeria.

Cryptocurrency has the ability to offer financial services, in many cases superior to those offered by the banking system, to the unbanked. Dash in particular has a focus on being a cheap and easy-to-use digital cash, which can have serious implications to alleviate issues affecting the third world. In Africa in particular, this message is catching on thanks to a series of meetups organized by motivated activists.
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-meetups-catch-on-across-africa/

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So Monerons continue to feel the need to advertise on the Dash thread? Old news! Cheesy

Big Dash conference in 2 days, stay tuned.

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September 22, 2017, 07:59:50 PM

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September 22, 2017, 08:19:24 PM

Damn, Dash price is rising fast now :



Will it breach 0.1 in two days ? Stay tuned...



peace out

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September 22, 2017, 08:32:43 PM

So Monerons continue to feel the need to advertise on the Dash thread? Old news! Cheesy

Big Dash conference in 2 days, stay tunned.

What typically happens at these conferences? asking for a n00b

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September 22, 2017, 08:38:44 PM

So Monerons continue to feel the need to advertise on the Dash thread? Old news! Cheesy

Big Dash conference in 2 days, stay tunned.

What typically happens at these conferences? asking for a n00b

https://dash.keynote.ae/agenda/

Specially the announcements and the state of Dash should be interesting....

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September 22, 2017, 08:55:42 PM

So Monerons continue to feel the need to advertise on the Dash thread? Old news! Cheesy

Big Dash conference in 2 days, stay tunned.

What typically happens at these conferences? asking for a n00b

https://dash.keynote.ae/agenda/

Specially the announcements and the state of Dash should be interesting....

thanks for the link. looks pretty awesome.

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Dash Meetups Catch on Across Africa


Dash adoption and awareness has made progress across Africa, with particular success stories in Ghana and Nigeria.

Cryptocurrency has the ability to offer financial services, in many cases superior to those offered by the banking system, to the unbanked. Dash in particular has a focus on being a cheap and easy-to-use digital cash, which can have serious implications to alleviate issues affecting the third world. In Africa in particular, this message is catching on thanks to a series of meetups organized by motivated activists.
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-meetups-catch-on-across-africa/

And here is Cryptolib's article on what is planned for this year:  https://dash-africa.com/cryptolib-announces-promotional-programme/

BTW, if you haven't voted for his proposal yet, please do, it's an essential and very inexpensive proposal considering all the work he does!  Thanks!
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September 23, 2017, 01:42:42 AM

Guys, please answer, since when does monero have a masternode? where is this information at?

It was already answerred, Monero does not have masternodes.

Well then why do people keep on saying it has one wtf. Are there any other plans for implementing a masternode???
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September 23, 2017, 02:11:06 AM

monero disscussion is ok at here?
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September 23, 2017, 02:12:50 AM

monero disscussion is ok at here?


its a dash announcement board... so no... im going to guess that its not

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The Monero blockchain can NOT be verified with a pubkey.  A Monero Transaction Can be verified,  That is a BIG difference. 
Yes thanks for correction.

Why would you want to verify other's transactions? That is the entire point, that you shouldn't.

If the protocol and the encoding procedure is bug-free, then it's just as valid transaction even if it's masked. And we know the whole point of hash functions and public key cryptography is that you cant recreate the same data from different source, collision protection.

If that mechanism is sound, then who cares what the transaction is, nobody can steal your money and nobody even knows who and how much money they have. Only those that you do business with will.

That is the whole point. You don't need a public ledge, a rich list, and such. It's very privacy invasive.

It’s all based on trust: trust in the “hopium” than that the client you happen to be using actually faithfully implements the protocol; trust in the ‘experts’ that the chain is ok when either some rogue group says it isn’t or when your own client software says it isn’t; trust in developers that the code isn’t doing some mad corrupt leakage out to an address that nobody can see or audit; trust in a centralised encryption algorithm that it won't be sprung open with a can opener a few years down the line to reveal every transaction in history. (A 'viewkey' doesn't in the least change this fact by the way. All a viewkey is is a private key with read-only privilages, it isn't a substitute for a fully transparent chain).


Just as with Dash's hopium that the Masternode system won't be broken or abused in some way.

By the way we are dealing with open source software here, so if you are really concerned about bugs then you can do something about it too. Hire a programmer or fix the code yourself, it's open, anybody can help.

Again you seem to confuse this with Zcash. Monero is nowhere are opaque as Zcash and it is transparently setup. There is no need to trust and I highly doubt and kind of "leakage" of secret coins is there, just as it can't happen in BTC or any other coins.

Monero doesn't reduce the security that Bitcoin has through it's protocol (to avoid minting or stealing unauthorized money). It just adds privacy to it, as an extra.



No you don't get it  Tongue

A pubkey doesn't verify the Monero blockchain, only one single transaction. (thanks for pointing that out chilly2k) (and elaborated on in great detail by toknormal) Trust is required in abundance that opaque blockchains are legit. This is why I don't like zcash, and also one reason (among many others) why I don't like Monero. A bug was caught recently in cryptonote coins which would have allowed undetected coin minting. I'm almost sure fluffypony wouldn't do it on purpose but still, how are you ever sure this isn't happening or will never happen via some other bug?


Yes correct about the verification as pointed above.

Not correct about the comparison with Zcash. Zcash is entirely masked, and totally requires a trusted setup to initialize the encryption with some random number I think.

Monero is transparently built, thus the encryption is more solid. I mean the whole point why people don't use XOR is because the random numbers can be tampered with.

So Monero uses good encryption that addresses this exact issue. With Zcash there are just too many things that could go wrong or already did but we dont know yet.




Thats a big if. It has never happened, despite the big bounty on offer for someone who manages it. Not to mention rival developers of other coins also having vested interest in breaking Dash private send. Stating that it is easy doesn't make it so. 

Ok so you think that somebody could mint secretly Monero, but you don't think that somebody else can already deanonimized Dash completely?

Pretty biased logic.


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Damn, Dash price is rising fast now :



Will it breach 0.1 in two days ? Stay tuned...



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Damn, Dash price is rising fast now :



Will it breach 0.1 in two days ? Stay tuned...



peace out
DASH is very good coin, I make a lot of profit with this coin

Yes there is a lot of potential. I think it has a chance of breaching 0.1
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