[POOL] Coinotron

[Bitcoin.Greece]

Fuck these stales and issues ive moved to wemineltc.com and will never look back, they are frigan awesome they even have google authenticator!

[Balthazar]

they even have google authenticator!

That's no news.

[RHWN]

I have around 7,5% rejected... Why is the number so much higher here than notroll for an example?

[Mad_Max]

Hi.

Sorry if this question is already asked(i check only few last pages of thread), but why pool grant less coins than intended / shown on the main page (Reward system).
I am use PPC pool now.
I check few times - reward always less. ~the equivalent of an additional commission of 5%.
For example i open (refresh) Reward system. It says Share value = 0.00866979. (i use RBPPS system)
Wait while miner complete next accepted share (or few but before new block change).
Refresh stats in account and count how many coins added (new balance - old balance, including unconfirmed, or just current round reward column).
In this example it was 0.0082 PPC per 1 share for me.
0.082/0.00866979 - 5.5% less if compared to normal Share value.
I check 0.00866979(number from main page) - it is a correct value to current diff at this block and already include 2% pool commission:
406.75*98%*8/367819.4=0.00866979

One more example (after diff change):
406.75*98%*8/370678.4=0.008602929115913 (0.00860291 on reward section)
From my stats
0.16459231-0.15641953 = 0.00817278 i.e. 5% less (~7% total commission)

Near the same was for TRC - but i not mine TRC now and not save exact numbers...

So what's going on?

P.S.
Last real rewards (0.00820297 per accepted share) is almost precisely between RBPPS(-2%)=0.00862032 wich i use and PPS (-12%)=0.00774069 wich i never uses on this pool.

[RobbieMor]

Is the sie still down?  Is anyone mining? I keep geting -
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:34:16] Started cgminer 2.11.3
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:34:16] Probing for an alive pool
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:35:16] No servers were found that could be used to get work from.
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:35:16] Please check the details from the list below of the servers you have input
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:35:16] Most likely you have input the wrong URL, forgotten to add a port, or have not set up workers
I use the same settings I used before the attack.

[Fcx35x10]

site seems to be down for me

[coinotron]

Hi.

Sorry if this question is already asked(i check only few last pages of thread), but why pool grant less coins than intended / shown on the main page (Reward system).
I am use PPC pool now.
I check few times - reward always less. ~the equivalent of an additional commission of 5%.
For example i open (refresh) Reward system. It says Share value = 0.00866979. (i use RBPPS system)
Wait while miner complete next accepted share (or few but before new block change).
Refresh stats in account and count how many coins added (new balance - old balance, including unconfirmed, or just current round reward column).
In this example it was 0.0082 PPC per 1 share for me.
0.082/0.00866979 - 5.5% less if compared to normal Share value.
I check 0.00866979(number from main page) - it is a correct value to current diff at this block and already include 2% pool commission:
406.75*98%*8/367819.4=0.00866979

One more example (after diff change):
406.75*98%*8/370678.4=0.008602929115913 (0.00860291 on reward section)
From my stats
0.16459231-0.15641953 = 0.00817278 i.e. 5% less (~7% total commission)

Near the same was for TRC - but i not mine TRC now and not save exact numbers...

So what's going on?

P.S.
Last real rewards (0.00820297 per accepted share) is almost precisely between RBPPS(-2%)=0.00862032 wich i use and PPS (-12%)=0.00774069 wich i never uses on this pool.

PPC. Here is explanation:
This is just rough estimation of reward not reward itself.

You must remember that during the round we don't know what will be the value of solved block. In other words block value changes because of algorithm of constant correction of difficulty. This is property of PPC and FRC.
And I'm just guessing what this new value will be based on value of last known solved block.
 
It is calculated like this:
Current round reward = 0.95 * Previous Block value
This affects share value as well.

When pool solves block we know its exact value and use that value in reward calculation. ( no 0.95 multiplier )

TRC has constant block value = 25. But there is another catch. TRC difficulty changes rapidly. Sometimes it increases/decreases by 50% in just 1 round. There are Coinotron rounds when network difficulty changed 3 times. Share value changes together with difficulty. It complicates calculations. Calculations based on number of submitted shares and share value at the end of the round give you in such cases wrong results.

[Mad_Max]

Hmm
So in other words these additional 5% is a kind of insurance is temporarily holds for the event of a sharp drop in the value of  next round block?

Although not understand why it is needed in RBPPS reward system? In RBPPS a whole reward (not just 5%) is holded not only to the moment when the value of the next block becomes known, but until it full confirmation (additional 520 blocks).
Why is it needed in PPS system(+variable block value) is understandable - because where the money can be withdrawn immediately after accounting before the end of the round.

Side issue- Obtained for such a scheme of calculation you have to store the data on number of shares received prom each of the miners in each mined block(round) separately (or at least 520 of the latter) to count values of shares corrently?

[lophie]

MAAAAAN.... just saw

2013-04-27: If you used same password on any other site, please change it ASAP !!

Now this is ambiguous! I thought YOU were hacked and you are suggesting we change the credentials in other sites if it is the same..... had to come here to get a clarification...

[Patrick||Rodgers]

I'm getting 23% stales and half the hashing rate stated in my miner.  Is there some magic setting?

[ajareselde]

dont use this pool until they fix it. owners should shut it down until they fix all this stales and rejects..
pathetic

[BlackPrapor]

I'm getting only a fraction of coins from what I should be getting, less than a half. I've got the expected amount yesterday, but today I've been robbed by this pool, maybe its stat server is broken or something. My rejects and stales are below 0.5%, no problems on my side.

[coinotron]

FYI

I think I solved high stales percentages issue. There were several huge botnets mining at Coinotron. I blocked them.

[stoppots]

 
wats the current share difficulty?
 

[coinotron]

wats the current share difficulty?
 

https://www.coinotron.com/coinotron/AccountServlet?action=home

[paladin281978]

coinotron

why are delayed auto payment FRC
much more than 25 minutes - passed a few hours.

[rammy2k2]

coinotron

why are delayed auto payment FRC
much more than 25 minutes - passed a few hours.

I have same problem too ... autopayment of  frc not working

[coinotron]

coinotron

why are delayed auto payment FRC
much more than 25 minutes - passed a few hours.

Hot wallet was empty. I've just transferred coins to hot wallet. Payouts have been sent.
My apologies for any inconvenience caused.

[BeneQ]

Hi

This is my first  post in this thread  then please forgive me any  mistake   


I want to   mine  FreiCoin  at  CoinoTron  using  cgminer

with current  setting :cgminer -o stratum+tcp://coinotron.com:3334 -u xxxxc -p xxxx

got  a lot :  stratum connrction to pool  interrupted  :/

Can  someone  give me  a  proper  command line for   cgminer   please

[Tigggger]

Hi

This is my first  post in this thread  then please forgive me any  mistake   


I want to   mine  FreiCoin  at  CoinoTron  using  cgminer

with current  setting :cgminer -o stratum+tcp://coinotron.com:3334 -u xxxxc -p xxxx

got  a lot :  stratum connrction to pool  interrupted  :/

Can  someone  give me  a  proper  command line for   cgminer   please

FreiCoin is:

cgminer -o http://coinotron.com:8322 -u xxxx -p xxxx