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September 02, 2022, 08:53:36 AM |
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Who knows if Leon Edward hid his deadly kick at the right time without the opponent's suspicion by manipulating the movement of his left hook punch, Leon Edward ability deserves thumbs up even though most people say the luck factor but in fact his hard kick has stopped the fight and changed everything, even Usman dominance points for The previous 3 rounds will be wasted, so that's how the fight is because there will be a change in conditions before all rounds end. So how the continuation of the fight of the two since both score draws, will there be a third fight for next year?
Even though it is just a coincidence he really still did it, that is surely impressive enough even though many don't like him as a champion I think that will just motivate him to do even better on his next fight and maybe even better on their rematch I think this will surprise many if he did it the 2nd time for certain debates There is no doubt that Tai Tuivasa is a good fighter, but to be honest, if I look at his body, I think he is going to move slower than a fighter should be able to move, which is somewhat of a concern. So based on that I am also going to say that Gane might have the edge.
However, if someone tells me that Tai Tuivasa doesn't stand a chance of winning, I will not be able to accept this opinion. At some point, I think this will come down to a very close fight, and Gane will do everything to take this fight as far as he can. His goal would be to make his opponent as tired as possible.
Tai Tuivasa is faster than Derrick Lewis, even though he got that body figure and built he manage to pulverize Lewis and KOed him, but Yes Cyril Gane is much faster than Tuivasa, and judging from their fight IQ, I will surely bet for Gane to win it, Tai Tuivasa has a tendency of just pursuing a KO and will surely punch without any care, while Gane is a technical fighter,
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Tai Tuivasa is faster than Derrick Lewis, even though he got that body figure and built he manage to pulverize Lewis and KOed him, but Yes Cyril Gane is much faster than Tuivasa, and judging from their fight IQ, I will surely bet for Gane to win it, Tai Tuivasa has a tendency of just pursuing a KO and will surely punch without any care, while Gane is a technical fighter,
Depends what you mean by fight IQ. Gane has very good movement so in those terms he's quite exceptional given his weight class. However, that Ngannou fight he didn't display all that much fight IQ, especially when it comes to versatility. I mean, I still can't get over how he basically got dominated on the ground, when a lot of us before that fight would've had Gane being the better of the two on the ground. Simply, since Ngannou doesn't have a long history of mixed martial arts, in fact he's relatively new to MMA. I have my doubts about Gane, and I think Ngannou exposed that side of him. Whether or not he has the heart too when the going gets tough. Tai will bring the heat, but Tai is relatively slow, and quite hittable, which suits Gane down to the ground if you ask me.
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September 02, 2022, 11:41:16 AM |
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When it is more or less clear who is going to win in Gane vs Tuivasa fight, I see no obvious winner in Whittaker vs Vettori fight. Bookies see Vettori as an underdog. I see Vettori in a slightly better situation. He is having a fight after a victory, Whittaker after a loss to Adesanya. Even though in a fights against Adesanya, Whittaker looker better than Vettori, but mentally Vettori is prepared better. Whittaker is more stable fighter, but that imho could be his weakness, as he always does same to win. If Vettori would be a creative in this fight, I think he could surprise Robert and win.
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September 02, 2022, 11:50:29 AM |
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When it is more or less clear who is going to win in Gane vs Tuivasa fight, I see no obvious winner in Whittaker vs Vettori fight. Bookies see Vettori as an underdog. I see Vettori in a slightly better situation. He is having a fight after a victory, Whittaker after a loss to Adesanya. Even though in a fights against Adesanya, Whittaker looker better than Vettori, but mentally Vettori is prepared better. Whittaker is more stable fighter, but that imho could be his weakness, as he always does same to win. If Vettori would be a creative in this fight, I think he could surprise Robert and win.
As far as I've watched, Whitetaker always plays with the same game, I know they do same play and win that easy but must be different now . Maybe if he changes his game in this match and redesigns, he can have an advantage against Vettori. I have expressed my opinion for the Gane vs Tuivasa match, there is no need to talk much about it. Only Tuivasa can do a TKO with a lucky punch, the probability of this is very low, rather , I do not foresee it.
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I forgot this is the headlining fight. I'm still not used to Tai being the main event just seems unreal how quick he's progressed, and some of the fighters he has actually beat. Almost like a fairy tale. I'd be super impressed, just like I was with the Lewis knock out if he manages to beat Gane though.
Just Gane's different. He's fast, doesn't mind just point scoring, and doesn't take a whole lot of risks. Tai was technically losing up until that elbow against Lewis if my memory serves me well. Gane isn't just going to stand there though, so it'll take a whole different part of the game for Tai to close the space, and that's something we haven't really seen from him. We know what we're getting with him, he's going to load up on his shots, and try to knock Gane out, and I hate to say it, he probably gets caught out with the superior speed, and agility of Gane, and gets knocked out himself. The more, and more I think of it that's the only outcome or a decision to Gane, but Tai hasn't even been five rounds yet, so can he really manage his energy when he pretty much swings to knock you out every other punch?
I feel like Tuivasa is gonna play Gane's game for a couple of rounds and be patient, with himself knowing that it's a 5 rounder. But then Gane is just gonna spam leg kicks until Tuivasa can't take them anymore then starts going ape shit and head hunts... Exactly what Gane wants and is waiting for. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So from a betting perspective I think the over 2.5 at 1.76 is safe and sprinkle some with a couple of bets on Gane to win at R4 and R5. I'll post my lottery ticket after weigh ins.
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I feel like Tuivasa is gonna play Gane's game for a couple of rounds and be patient, with himself knowing that it's a 5 rounder. But then Gane is just gonna spam leg kicks until Tuivasa can't take them anymore then starts going ape shit and head hunts... Exactly what Gane wants and is waiting for. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) So from a betting perspective I think the over 2.5 at 1.76 is safe and sprinkle some with a couple of bets on Gane to win at R4 and R5. I'll post my lottery ticket after weigh ins. I'll be posting my predictions shortly. I'll be going for a win for Gane, but won't be going for a method so obviously I wouldn't recommend putting that on your betting slip, just isn't worth the risk when Tai can bang like he does. What do you guys think about the Robert Whittaker vs Marvin Vettori fight? I'm obviously a bobby knuckles fan, despite him probably being the biggest long time rival of Izzy, but I just feel like this has a boring Vettori win all over it. Probably a decision win. That's my gut feeling anyway, feel like he'll know the threat of Bobby, and will look to take him down, and basically go the lay, and pray route. It's whether or not Bobby has the takedown defense for him, which I'll be honest I do believe he might.
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^ Yeah but it's a lottery ticket. It has to be all the match ups included. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) But yeah.. I'll prolly just put Gane not at the top but around the second or third tier of the ticket. And I wouldn't be putting value plays at the third and up either. And those 50/50 match ups just like Aldo vs the wrestler Merab with the unspellable last name. But I'm glad I chose Aldo as it would've hurt more if I chose the other guy only to lose it all with Usman. And Whitaker should win but the line sucks. Vettori could steal a round imho. The line should be closer.
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What do you guys think about the Robert Whittaker vs Marvin Vettori fight? I'm obviously a bobby knuckles fan, despite him probably being the biggest long time rival of Izzy, but I just feel like this has a boring Vettori win all over it. Probably a decision win. That's my gut feeling anyway, feel like he'll know the threat of Bobby, and will look to take him down, and basically go the lay, and pray route. It's whether or not Bobby has the takedown defense for him, which I'll be honest I do believe he might.
Whittaker has better puncher, while Vettori is better on the ground fight and never get KO'ed, so I think it's either Whittaker will win via decision or Vettori will win via submission. I think it's a 50/50 fight, but since Vettori has better odds than Whittaker, I will bet Vettori. Whoever will win might will fight Adesanya again for the third fight. I don't expect a boring fight when both fighters have different skills, if both of them are good punchers, then it will boring since we will only waiting an one punch that will hit him so badly and put him fell asleep.
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I'm not sure it's 50/50 I would fancy Whittaker, as I do believe he's got the best skill set, I just know Vettori is a determined fighter, and he isn't going to let up. If he gets it to the ground I think it'll stay on ground. Bobby doesn't really have the strength or technique on the ground to stand up from someone like Vettori when he's being mounted or side controlled. Although, like I said Bobby does have decent takedown defense, a bit like Izzy in that regard, and has decent pressure from his kicks. If he can use is kicks for his distance, and he could well put on a vintage display.
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I'm not sure it's 50/50 I would fancy Whittaker, as I do believe he's got the best skill set, I just know Vettori is a determined fighter, and he isn't going to let up. If he gets it to the ground I think it'll stay on ground. Bobby doesn't really have the strength or technique on the ground to stand up from someone like Vettori when he's being mounted or side controlled. Although, like I said Bobby does have decent takedown defense, a bit like Izzy in that regard, and has decent pressure from his kicks. If he can use is kicks for his distance, and he could well put on a vintage display.
If you ask me I think we are going to see all three rounds and fight not going to distance in this co-main event. Vettori never lost by KO or by submission in his carrier, and Whittaker is not known for wining with KO very often. I can't believe this good odds on Vettori to win and I don't think he should be such a big underdog in this fight, but I am taking this gift. https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc-fight-night-gane-vs-tuivasa/whittaker-robert-vs-vettori-marvin-62ccea0491dacec1b98851e1
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Yeah, I'll be making a cheeky little bet on Vettori just for his wrestling ability if can get Whittaker down, and down early I think he'll see a lot of success. Probably be a boring fight for those that want to see some striking action, but the best path to victory for Vettori would be the lay, and pray tactic, while doing occasional damage to really put a stamp on things.
Here's my predictions:
Ciryl Gane Marvin Vettori Roman Kopylov John Makdessi Jarno Errens Charles Jourdain Abusupiyan Magomedov Nassourdine Imavov Michal Figlak Cristian Quiñonez Ailin Perez
Seriously, there's a lot of fights here which is a toss up for me. I'll be staying away from a lot of these fights in terms of betting. My favourites to get the job done would be Gane, Vettori, Magomedov, and Nassourdine Imavov.
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Tomorrow my parlay will be like 90% completed if Ciryl Gane dominates Tui. I just went ML because I want to keep it safe. If Ciryl Gane will continue to fight smart, Tui might get tired in the championship rounds. So it is either a gassed-out Tui gets stopped in the championship rounds or his toughness will be able to help him finish the fight but will lose on the scorecards. The last remaining bet will be Chimaev taking his lamb. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I would have added Whittaker on my parlay but I want Vettori to win. Because I don't want to see a trilogy between Whittaker and Adesanya. Oh, wait! Pereira will beat Adesanya. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Depends what you mean by fight IQ. Gane has very good movement so in those terms he's quite exceptional given his weight class. However, that Ngannou fight he didn't display all that much fight IQ, especially when it comes to versatility. I mean, I still can't get over how he basically got dominated on the ground, when a lot of us before that fight would've had Gane being the better of the two on the ground. Simply, since Ngannou doesn't have a long history of mixed martial arts, in fact he's relatively new to MMA.
I have my doubts about Gane, and I think Ngannou exposed that side of him. Whether or not he has the heart too when the going gets tough. Tai will bring the heat, but Tai is relatively slow, and quite hittable, which suits Gane down to the ground if you ask me.
There is no doubt that Tuivasa can surely brawl, and he has the most dependable chin in the heavyweight that withstands even Lewis, but for me, the most prominent fight IQ will go for Bon Gamin, and Gane's fight with Francis Ngannou surely exposed him for simply going to their plan, but Francis Ngannou has good instinct and I think that Ciryl Gane, has learned something on that fight, and he will surely show it on this fight, and no doubt his not really ready for Francis Ngannou, but seeing Tai Tuivasa now on the weigh-ins pretty much there are some improvements but there are a lot of advantage for Cyril Gane in this fight, for me so I am still going for Bon Gamin,
Here are my picks for the UFC Fight Night: Gane vs. Tuivasa Ciryl Gane VS Tai TuivasaTai Tuivasa's advantage would be his durable chin, he can surely brawl inside the octagon, and if Gane doesn't have the power to make his punch very effective of doesn't hurt Tuivasa then that would be his loss because when Tuivasa counters that will surely inflict a lot of pain for Gane, while Ciryl Gane has good movement and speed even though this is the heavyweight division his speed and movement was a prominent for the Light Heavyweight, for me his height and reach advantage could be the advantage just like what he did to Derrick Lewis, this could happen against Tai Tuivasa but if Tuivasa could be hurt by Gane's punches, Robert Whittaker VS Marvin VettoriFor me, Robert Whittaker is surely great in striking but he can not underestimate Vettori because Marvin Vettori can submit a Jui Jitsu black belt fighter, pretty much he has decent ground game, but surely Vettori also has a great chin for those Whittaker feints pretty much I am 50/50 in this because Whittaker has great striking and has decent takedown defense aswell, but for me, I will surely take Vettori's good chin to withstand's Whittaker's strikes so I am going for Marvin Vettori, Ailin Perez VS Stephanie EggerThe Sexy Twerking Fighting kitten Ailin Perez is super hot that she could light the Octagon on fire, and this is her Debut for the UFC, while Egger has a decent record that could make my Fighting kitten has the disadvantage here, but for me I feel like Ailin Perez has a decent striking while Egger has surely had a ground game, but I will still go with Ailin Perez, she surely has a lot to show for the UFC and this is her debut I think she will never fail on this for her first time,
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Tomorrow my parlay will be like 90% completed if Ciryl Gane dominates Tui. I just went ML because I want to keep it safe. If Ciryl Gane will continue to fight smart, Tui might get tired in the championship rounds. So it is either a gassed-out Tui gets stopped in the championship rounds or his toughness will be able to help him finish the fight but will lose on the scorecards. The last remaining bet will be Chimaev taking his lamb. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I would have added Whittaker on my parlay but I want Vettori to win. Because I don't want to see a trilogy between Whittaker and Adesanya. Oh, wait! Pereira will beat Adesanya. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'd say there's a very good chance. However, considering the odds are only 1.18 for Gane, it might be worth cashing out if you're being offered a decent amount. The amount of times a massive favourite has shit the bed (for a lack of a better term), and caused me a few k has been far too often in my opinion. Obviously, up to you I don't want you to be angry if he does end up winning ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) , since that's probably the most likely outcome, and most users here agree on that.
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September 03, 2022, 11:21:22 AM |
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I'd say there's a very good chance. However, considering the odds are only 1.18 for Gane, it might be worth cashing out if you're being offered a decent amount. The amount of times a massive favourite has shit the bed (for a lack of a better term), and caused me a few k has been far too often in my opinion.
Yeah I think Gane seems high likely wouldn't lose and it's not worth to bet him when the odds only 1.18, I would rather to bet him Gane via decision since the fight will going for distance. I don't expect a submission end as Gane isn't have a good ground fight, but he's good to avoid/prevent a ground fight like Adesanya. The bookies predict Gane will win via KO, but I don't think Tuivasa will easily fell sleep if Gane can hit him.
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Yeah, I'll be making a cheeky little bet on Vettori just for his wrestling ability if can get Whittaker down, and down early I think he'll see a lot of success. Probably be a boring fight for those that want to see some striking action, but the best path to victory for Vettori would be the lay, and pray tactic, while doing occasional damage to really put a stamp on things.
Here's my predictions:
Ciryl Gane Marvin Vettori Roman Kopylov John Makdessi Jarno Errens Charles Jourdain Abusupiyan Magomedov Nassourdine Imavov Michal Figlak Cristian Quiñonez Ailin Perez
Seriously, there's a lot of fights here which is a toss up for me. I'll be staying away from a lot of these fights in terms of betting. My favourites to get the job done would be Gane, Vettori, Magomedov, and Nassourdine Imavov.
I really like the underdog picks. I'd include Buckley and Wood in there too. Lol. But yeah I avoided making my lottery ticket as this card smells like pie shitter everywhere. And I'm kinda lazy doing it if I'm not betting it. I just have a small bet on the over 2.5 for the main event and Gane to win at R4 and same bet at R5. The line on Vettori is tempting but I'll just pass and save it for the next event. Weigh in results, everybody made weight. Ciryl Gane (247) vs Tai Tuivasa (266) Marvin Vettori (186) vs Robert Whittaker (186) Alessio Di Chirico (186) vs Roman Kopylov (186) Nasrat Haqparast (155) vs John Makdessi (154.5) Jarno Errens (146) vs William Gomis (146) Charles Jourdain (145.5) vs Nathaniel Wood (146) Abusupiyan Magomedov (186) vs Dustin Stoltzfus (186) Michal Figlak (156) vs Fares Ziam (156) Joaquin Buckley (186) vs Nassourdine Imavov (186) Gabriel Miranda (155.5) vs Benoit Saint-Denis (156) Christian Quinonez (136) vs Khalid Taha (135) Stephanie Egger (145) vs Ailin Perez (144.5) Enjoy the event guys.
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I really like the underdog picks. I'd include Buckley and Wood in there too. Lol. But yeah I avoided making my lottery ticket as this card smells like pie shitter everywhere. And I'm kinda lazy doing it if I'm not betting it. I just have a small bet on the over 2.5 for the main event and Gane to win at R4 and same bet at R5. The line on Vettori is tempting but I'll just pass and save it for the next event.
Yeah, Buckley I'd be tempted, but you never know what version you're going to get with him. He's looked brilliant, practically knocking out everything in front of him, and then sometimes he just looks out of ideas. Interesting that you think Tai will survive past the third at least too. I nearly made a bet where Gane wins via decision. I'm just not sure I should pull the trigger on it. Tai leaves himself open, but personally I don't see Gane as a killer, and I think he'll be hesitant knowing Tai loves a dog fight.
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I'd say there's a very good chance. However, considering the odds are only 1.18 for Gane, it might be worth cashing out if you're being offered a decent amount. The amount of times a massive favourite has shit the bed (for a lack of a better term), and caused me a few k has been far too often in my opinion. Obviously, up to you I don't want you to be angry if he does end up winning ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) , since that's probably the most likely outcome, and most users here agree on that. Stake odds right now are 1.16 for Ciryl Gane while 5.20 for Tai Tuivasa If I bet for Gane with 0.001 BTC I would get a total payout of 0.00116 BTC it is not really a profitable win but still, a win is a win, and I have acquired $ 3.18 USD if the price of Bitcoin never change, so I would likely stay away from betting because I don't have that much likely if you got a big amount to bet then get bigger cash for Gane, or if he wants a risky one bet for Tuivasa for that same amount I would likely get $83.50 if converted to USD if Tuivasa wins, but I would rather stay away from betting for now, Yeah I think Gane seems high likely wouldn't lose and it's not worth to bet him when the odds only 1.18, I would rather to bet him Gane via decision since the fight will going for distance. I don't expect a submission end as Gane isn't have a good ground fight, but he's good to avoid/prevent a ground fight like Adesanya. The bookies predict Gane will win via KO, but I don't think Tuivasa will easily fell sleep if Gane can hit him.
If he can not hurt Tuivasa with his punches then the fight might end up in a decision, I surely doubt Ciryl Gane's power back then that he can not knockout Lewis, but he did, but Tuivasa is super durable than Lewis so he would likely have problem with him, surely if you hit Tuivasa harder and he doesn't budge then a counter will likely to follow up for Gane and that could make a win for Tuivasa, I surely don't look for just a Gane win here, I really think that Tuivasa has a way of defeating Gane aswell, but it is just slim, and I can not see it happening,
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For anyone who is interested main event Ciryl Gane vs Tai Tuivasa is starting now, earlier than usual so tune in live! I am expecting to see KO win for any of this two guys, and this would be second KO win in this main card. Gane looks very cool and relaxed and my pick is on him. 🥊 🥊
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September 04, 2022, 01:20:53 AM |
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For anyone who is interested main event Ciryl Gane vs Tai Tuivasa is starting now, earlier than usual so tune in live! I am expecting to see KO win for any of this two guys, and this would be second KO win in this main card. Gane looks very cool and relaxed and my pick is on him. 🥊 🥊
Gane didn't fail you. Like we expect Gane won without a doubt. Tai showed his strength that it took 3 rounds to defeat him. Earlier in the fight, it was really intense when Tai hit Gane hard. Not worth betting like what YuginKadoya said. Other cards are hard to speculate. There was speculation that Vetorri will win, but he didn't. If you didn't bet on Gane vs Tuivasa because of the odds. Will you bet on Diaz vs Chimaev since it seems very positive Chimaev will win?
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