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October 20, 2021, 07:08:48 PM
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Yeah afganistan is facing some terrible times and they need support from ICC as well as other country boards as well. Afganistan is full of talent and if given right guidance they can become a team to beat in the upcoming times. Rashid khan can be one of the best spinners in the test as well like he is in t-20
I do not think that there i no issue for the Afghanistan cricket board but the outside world might take action against them because of the Taliban rule as they do not allow Woman sports at all and Cricket Australia is vocal and they might call off matches against Afghanistan if the situation does not change, the biggest question is what will the ICC's position in this regard, as we are yet to hear any statement from them.
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October 21, 2021, 12:34:34 AM
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Sooner or later Afghanistan will be eliminated from icc n primary reason is there new government has differences with India and India will use icc to restrict them from playing international matches. India investment in Afghanistan has gone down to zero after New take over.
But in the end it will be Afghanistan players that will suffer. They have made huge progress in recent years n chances are that it will be down to zero. Only neutral icc can allow them to play cricket.

Apartheid era South Africa was kicked out from the ICC for discriminating against the racial minorities. Here, Taliban is doing much worse. They are literally exterminating the religious minorities. Given this, the ICC don't have any option other than to terminate them. The funding will stop as well. Because whatever funds being provided to the Afghan cricket board will end up with the Taliban terrorists and they will use those funds to spread terror in neighboring regions. No need to blame the BCCI here. Even the other boards such as the ECB and CA will do the same.

I think until and unless the world recognises the Taliban government they will face such discrimination. Taliban has not done anything well till now to convince the world that they have evolved from what they were in the 90s. You are right it can be a matter of months before ICC decides to remove the Afghan cricket board from the official list of cricket playing nation.

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October 21, 2021, 03:54:54 AM
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I think until and unless the world recognises the Taliban government they will face such discrimination. Taliban has not done anything well till now to convince the world that they have evolved from what they were in the 90s. You are right it can be a matter of months before ICC decides to remove the Afghan cricket board from the official list of cricket playing nation.

The "world" is never going to recognize Taliban, because they are a bunch of murderous terrorists. And they haven't done anything to convince others that they are behaving in a civilized way. I am looking forward to see what the other sports bodies do regarding Afghanistan. FIFA hasn't suspended their membership yet, and on the other hand they have managed to evacuate around 100 football players to Qatar. The ICC has remained mute, despite Afghanistan being one of the test playing nations.

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October 22, 2021, 03:11:36 PM
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I think until and unless the world recognises the Taliban government they will face such discrimination. Taliban has not done anything well till now to convince the world that they have evolved from what they were in the 90s. You are right it can be a matter of months before ICC decides to remove the Afghan cricket board from the official list of cricket playing nation.
The "world" is never going to recognize Taliban, because they are a bunch of murderous terrorists. And they haven't done anything to convince others that they are behaving in a civilized way. I am looking forward to see what the other sports bodies do regarding Afghanistan. FIFA hasn't suspended their membership yet, and on the other hand they have managed to evacuate around 100 football players to Qatar. The ICC has remained mute, despite Afghanistan being one of the test playing nations.
This is your personal statement because you are feeling some pain but sooner of later world must do some better relationship with Afghanistan because they need this otherwise they will face some serious dilemma which is not good for anyone China is working very closely with them, and they are going to invest some good amount for their own sack and Russia is also monitoring this all if these two accepted then surely no way for many other countries even India is crying about this and having some good propaganda on social media no one going to check this all.

Afghanistan and Taliban now fact for this world better join them and have some good and better peace in this region.
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October 22, 2021, 04:34:25 PM
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I think until and unless the world recognises the Taliban government they will face such discrimination. Taliban has not done anything well till now to convince the world that they have evolved from what they were in the 90s. You are right it can be a matter of months before ICC decides to remove the Afghan cricket board from the official list of cricket playing nation.
The "world" is never going to recognize Taliban, because they are a bunch of murderous terrorists. And they haven't done anything to convince others that they are behaving in a civilized way. I am looking forward to see what the other sports bodies do regarding Afghanistan. FIFA hasn't suspended their membership yet, and on the other hand they have managed to evacuate around 100 football players to Qatar. The ICC has remained mute, despite Afghanistan being one of the test playing nations.
This is your personal statement because you are feeling some pain but sooner of later world must do some better relationship with Afghanistan because they need this otherwise they will face some serious dilemma which is not good for anyone China is working very closely with them, and they are going to invest some good amount for their own sack and Russia is also monitoring this all if these two accepted then surely no way for many other countries even India is crying about this and having some good propaganda on social media no one going to check this all.
Afghanistan and Taliban now fact for this world better join them and have some good and better peace in this region.

@Sithara007  The world should not recognize the Taliban, they should recognize the mystery spin-off, Rashid Khan. They should see the incredible performance of Mohammed Nabi. Afghanistan is a really promising nation for cricket. They produced players like Rashid, Nabi, Shehzad, Zadran who r really good players and assets of the country. And now they are security at stake so ICC should take steps about their security and safety.

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October 22, 2021, 07:10:25 PM
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So guys last India vs England series still alive. India is leading 2-1 but England now has good chance to tie the series considering Ben stokes and Jofra might come back next year and they could possibly win the match because its one-off test match along with white ball series.
Fifth England-India Test rescheduled for next year

^ If Jofra and Ben come back then I think England has a genuine chance of winning the series because they are two-star players of England who paved the way for their world cup win and the England team can depend on their performance in needed situations. Ben Stokes is one of the best all-rounders and Archer is one of the best bowlers who can help the team tremendously. So England can get their hopes up if these two players play for them against India.

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October 22, 2021, 07:41:32 PM
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The world should not recognize the Taliban, they should recognize the mystery spin-off, Rashid Khan. They should see the incredible performance of Mohammed Nabi. Afghanistan is a really promising nation for cricket. They produced players like Rashid, Nabi, Shehzad, Zadran who r really good players and assets of the country. And now they are security at stake so ICC should take steps about their security and safety.
This is just funny nothing else because Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi and Zardan are not bigger than Afghanistan right now world facing some serious issues just because of this country so hopefully this all will be settled in near future because it's very important for all parties.

Afghanistan is really mystery country for world in last 4 centuries we never have peace here, and they are doing still doing incredible things against most powerful countries of the world. But, now hopefully we will have some changes and youths able to perform good in cricket and soccer because they need some good things for entertainment as well.

If ICC ban Afghanistan then surely it's could be very bad for Afghanistan and ICC because this never help to spread this game.
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October 23, 2021, 02:47:52 AM
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^ If Jofra and Ben come back then I think England has a genuine chance of winning the series because they are two-star players of England who paved the way for their world cup win and the England team can depend on their performance in needed situations. Ben Stokes is one of the best all-rounders and Archer is one of the best bowlers who can help the team tremendously. So England can get their hopes up if these two players play for them against India.

In case of Ben Stokes, it needs to be seen whether he can perform up to his pre-injury level. And Jofra always perform poorly against India. But who knows? If they prepare some bouncy, seaming pitches, then the England bowlers may be able to trouble the Indians. But more than Jofra, I would say that James Anderson represents a bigger threat for the Indians. And as far as batting is concerned, they are dependent on Joe Root. The addition of Stokes may strengthen their middle order, if he manages to score runs.

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October 23, 2021, 03:11:17 AM
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^ If Jofra and Ben come back then I think England has a genuine chance of winning the series because they are two-star players of England who paved the way for their world cup win and the England team can depend on their performance in needed situations. Ben Stokes is one of the best all-rounders and Archer is one of the best bowlers who can help the team tremendously. So England can get their hopes up if these two players play for them against India.

In case of Ben Stokes, it needs to be seen whether he can perform up to his pre-injury level. And Jofra always perform poorly against India. But who knows? If they prepare some bouncy, seaming pitches, then the England bowlers may be able to trouble the Indians. But more than Jofra, I would say that James Anderson represents a bigger threat for the Indians. And as far as batting is concerned, they are dependent on Joe Root. The addition of Stokes may strengthen their middle order, if he manages to score runs.

@Sithara007 you’re right post an injury a player always takes time to recover, but Ben Stokes can recover strongly as he has that winning desire in him. Also with Jofra it’s a confidence issue, and once he’s able to cross this barrier then he’ll be able to perform well against any opponent including team India.
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The world should not recognize the Taliban, they should recognize the mystery spin-off, Rashid Khan. They should see the incredible performance of Mohammed Nabi. Afghanistan is a really promising nation for cricket. They produced players like Rashid, Nabi, Shehzad, Zadran who r really good players and assets of the country. And now they are security at stake so ICC should take steps about their security and safety.
This is just funny nothing else because Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi and Zardan are not bigger than Afghanistan right now world facing some serious issues just because of this country so hopefully this all will be settled in near future because it's very important for all parties.

Afghanistan is really mystery country for world in last 4 centuries we never have peace here, and they are doing still doing incredible things against most powerful countries of the world. But, now hopefully we will have some changes and youths able to perform good in cricket and soccer because they need some good things for entertainment as well.

If ICC ban Afghanistan then surely it's could be very bad for Afghanistan and ICC because this never help to spread this game.

The ICC should see Afghanistan as a team and not look in their political issues. Even though we know that Afghanistan Talibans are threat to the world but this has nothing to do with cricket. If they are playing good cricket, then ICC should not ban them.
By the way, is there any news which hints that ICC may impose ban on Afghanistan cricket board or is it just speculation ?

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October 23, 2021, 11:35:49 AM
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The ICC should see Afghanistan as a team and not look in their political issues. Even though we know that Afghanistan Talibans are threat to the world but this has nothing to do with cricket. If they are playing good cricket, then ICC should not ban them.
By the way, is there any news which hints that ICC may impose ban on Afghanistan cricket board or is it just speculation ?

Unfortunately we can't expect anything from icc on such matters. The new regime in Afghanistan don't have good relations with big 3, rest you can understand yourself. One of the biggest concern is whether new government allow cricket team to play under the old afghan flag or not? The other concerns include whether woman's are allowed to play cricket? There are many if else which need to be cleared by new Afghanistan government in order to keep playing the cricket.

Cricket Australia will cancel the Test match against Afghanistan in November if women are not allowed to play the sport under the Taliban regime. source



Nothing much to say about SA Aus match. So far Aussies bowlers have done there job, seems like SA will be restricted to 120. It will be an easy target to chase for Australia.

Second match will be interesting,  odds are favouring Eng but WI is equally good in T20. I have placed my bet on WI. Wish me luck.
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October 23, 2021, 01:51:08 PM
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The ICC should see Afghanistan as a team and not look in their political issues. Even though we know that Afghanistan Talibans are threat to the world but this has nothing to do with cricket. If they are playing good cricket, then ICC should not ban them.
By the way, is there any news which hints that ICC may impose ban on Afghanistan cricket board or is it just speculation ?
After this T20 CWC we will have some better idea what's going to happen in ICC about Afghanistan because right now they are busy with this all. I am feeling most chances ICC will ban Afghanistan because few big are not happy with this all which happening in Afghanistan, so they will use their own power and ban them. Taliban will never allow women in cricket, and they will never compromise with this all so its can happen in near future. But right now, these all are speculations we have to wait from both sides about this what is clearly coming because I feel they have to allow Afghanistan but still it's all about power and personal ego.
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The ICC should see Afghanistan as a team and not look in their political issues. Even though we know that Afghanistan Talibans are threat to the world but this has nothing to do with cricket. If they are playing good cricket, then ICC should not ban them.
By the way, is there any news which hints that ICC may impose ban on Afghanistan cricket board or is it just speculation ?

This is a very stupid suggestion. If politics has nothing to do with cricket, then why the ICC banned apartheid era South Africa from international cricket for almost three decades? Zimbabwe was suspended recently for something far less serious. And in Afghanistan the Taliban is butchering thousands of innocent people every day. And you suggest that the ICC should continue to fund the Afghan board with $5 million in funds every year, so that it can be stolen by the Taliban and used for terrorist activities?

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This is a very stupid suggestion. If politics has nothing to do with cricket, then why the ICC banned apartheid era South Africa from international cricket for almost three decades? Zimbabwe was suspended recently for something far less serious. And in Afghanistan the Taliban is butchering thousands of innocent people every day. And you suggest that the ICC should continue to fund the Afghan board with $5 million in funds every year, so that it can be stolen by the Taliban and used for terrorist activities?
You got a point there, ICC have interfered in the past and they might intervene but not sure what position they are going to take. When South Africa was banned from Cricket the political situation was far different from where we live now. Have to wait and see what decision the ICC is going to take.

The issue with CA is that the Taliban is having a strict view on woman and they will be deprived of their freedom which does not bode well to the society we are living.
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This is a very stupid suggestion. If politics has nothing to do with cricket, then why the ICC banned apartheid era South Africa from international cricket for almost three decades? Zimbabwe was suspended recently for something far less serious. And in Afghanistan the Taliban is butchering thousands of innocent people every day. And you suggest that the ICC should continue to fund the Afghan board with $5 million in funds every year, so that it can be stolen by the Taliban and used for terrorist activities?
You got a point there, ICC have interfered in the past and they might intervene but not sure what position they are going to take. When South Africa was banned from Cricket the political situation was far different from where we live now. Have to wait and see what decision the ICC is going to take.

The issue with CA is that the Taliban is having a strict view on woman and they will be deprived of their freedom which does not bode well to the society we are living.

I am sure ICC will take the decision after the T20 worldcup. I think Afganistan players should move to other countries if possible and join their team. Most new cricketing nation are looking for good players and they are willing to hire them.

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I am sure ICC will take the decision after the T20 worldcup. I think Afganistan players should move to other countries if possible and join their team. Most new cricketing nation are looking for good players and they are willing to hire them.

Most of the Afghan players are currently based in Qatar and the UAE. I guess they will continue to participate in various franchise T20 leagues. But I don't think that Afghanistan as a team would be allowed to play international cricket. The stance from BCCI is not yet known, but the cricket boards from Australia, New Zealand and England are in favor of banning Afghanistan. Obviously the ICC don't want to take this step, when the T20 World Cup is ongoing. I guess the decision will come soon after the completion of this tournament.

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I am sure ICC will take the decision after the T20 worldcup. I think Afganistan players should move to other countries if possible and join their team. Most new cricketing nation are looking for good players and they are willing to hire them.

Most of the Afghan players are currently based in Qatar and the UAE. I guess they will continue to participate in various franchise T20 leagues. But I don't think that Afghanistan as a team would be allowed to play international cricket. The stance from BCCI is not yet known, but the cricket boards from Australia, New Zealand and England are in favor of banning Afghanistan. Obviously the ICC don't want to take this step, when the T20 World Cup is ongoing. I guess the decision will come soon after the completion of this tournament.

It does not matter what BCCI plans to do but if most big boards are in favour of banning Afghanisthan then BCCI too will follow. ICC has to comply with these big boards as they are the revenue-generating boards for ICC. I pity those player and the youngsters who were trying to make a career out of cricket.

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October 24, 2021, 03:34:27 PM
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I am sure ICC will take the decision after the T20 worldcup. I think Afganistan players should move to other countries if possible and join their team. Most new cricketing nation are looking for good players and they are willing to hire them.
Most of the Afghan players are currently based in Qatar and the UAE. I guess they will continue to participate in various franchise T20 leagues. But I don't think that Afghanistan as a team would be allowed to play international cricket. The stance from BCCI is not yet known, but the cricket boards from Australia, New Zealand and England are in favor of banning Afghanistan. Obviously the ICC don't want to take this step, when the T20 World Cup is ongoing. I guess the decision will come soon after the completion of this tournament.

Well, Afghanistan cricket board getting band will be really sad for all the cricket lovers as they have produced a lot of really quality players in recent times but judging the situation of Afghanistan maybe it's just better for everyone that Afghanistan players do not play any international matches soon. Because here the safety of the players is involved. And we have to remember that in cricket we don't have as many teams playing as like football so losing a test playing nation is a big problem. And I know this is going to create a lot of fuss which in my opinion ICC does not want right now and maybe that is the reason they are not still taking any decisions about this.

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October 25, 2021, 03:00:31 AM
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Well, Afghanistan cricket board getting band will be really sad for all the cricket lovers as they have produced a lot of really quality players in recent times but judging the situation of Afghanistan maybe it's just better for everyone that Afghanistan players do not play any international matches soon. Because here the safety of the players is involved. And we have to remember that in cricket we don't have as many teams playing as like football so losing a test playing nation is a big problem. And I know this is going to create a lot of fuss which in my opinion ICC does not want right now and maybe that is the reason they are not still taking any decisions about this.

They just don't want to create any unnecessary controversy during the world cup. However I expect the suspension immediately after the completion of the tournament. I feel bad about the future of young cricketers in Afghanistan, but hopefully the ICC will divert the funds to other promising countries such as Nepal, Namibia, Kenya and Papua New Guinea. It is a bit harsh, but the ICC or the international community can't afford to provide any sort of legitimacy to brutal regimes such as the Taliban and the ISIS.

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