ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Theones]

Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

Good to see slow and proper cricket in the form of test matches after volatile T20 WC. If you see Pakistan T20 squad it still has hassan Ali. I think hassan must be given some rest to regain his form. Hafeez is drooped and in form Iftikhar Ahmed is in the squad. Shoaib malik is also in squad, he must also be replaced by some young player.
Test squad is not announced , it may be announced during T20s.

[Maidak]

Right after the T20 world cup, Pakistan will be visiting Bangladesh to play three one day international and three test matches starting form 19 November. Seeing the current form of both the teams in the recent world cup, i think Pakistan should white wash the series however, not to forget, Bangladesh have a good record in their home ground and they are one of those teams who play better cricket at home.

Pakistan is very good in T20 but not same good in tests and ODI. On the other hand Bangladesh must be looking for some wins against Pakistan to overcome there bad performance in T20 WC. Bangladesh has never won a test match against Pakistan,  so Pakistan need to be careful to maintain that record. Bangladesh holds a record of 3-0 in ODI series against Pakistan in 2015.

Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

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Bangladesh is better at one-day internationals than t20 or test cricket. But Bangladesh is going through a really bad form right now and that will obviously affect their performance. And with all the politics going on in the Bangladesh cricket board and the players having problems with the board and the coaches, there might be a lot of problems that will reflect on their performance.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Zimbabwe women's team faced Bangladesh in the second ODI match today. The women's team of Bangladesh is very experienced now. The Zimbabwean team is still much weaker than them. Zimbabwe lost all their wickets today and managed to collect only 121 runs. Which was a very easy goal for the Bangladesh team. Bangladesh lost just one wicket and reached their target.

[DanWalker]

That's very much correct. Pakistan failed to provide adequate security to SL team back in 2009 and they are facing consequences till date. I also agree with what Ramiz Raja (chairman PCB) was saying that all boards must understand each other problems and must cooperate. I am convinced that big 3 and NZ wont care for problems of small boards since they have enough money in there bag. But situation can become tough for such boards also like the Christ Church situation.

The Christchurch attack was committed by a "lone wolf" terrorist. The probability of a major terrorist incident occurring in New Zealand is still a than thousand times lower than the case with Pakistan. So what happened in Christchurch can't be used to justify, or reduce the significance of what occurred in Karachi. And it has nothing to do with the pig-4 classification. Western countries do take security very seriously. Even teams like Ireland or Netherlands would do the same, if they are faced with similar issues.

I agree that western countries take the security thing very seriously. But that doesn't mean the other countries don't. And yes in the case of Pakistan, I think better measurements could be taken for the security of the players. And yes no crime is justifiable. But what I want to say is maybe it would be better if all of us don't just blame the government and talk about how they could have handled the situation better. Because blaming is not gonna make a difference.

[StLucifer]

Zimbabwe women's team faced Bangladesh in the second ODI match today. The women's team of Bangladesh is very experienced now. The Zimbabwean team is still much weaker than them. Zimbabwe lost all their wickets today and managed to collect only 121 runs. Which was a very easy goal for the Bangladesh team. Bangladesh lost just one wicket and reached their target.

Frankly first time i heard about Zimbabwe womens cricket team as  I have not seen them play in big tournaments. Yes Bangladesh team is surely way better team than Zimbabwe in womens cricket as they have lot more experience, they play against top sides as well so playing against Zimbabwe was a pretty easy match for them and hence they won this match with ease.

[mm2543363580]

I agree that western countries take the security thing very seriously. But that doesn't mean the other countries don't. And yes in the case of Pakistan, I think better measurements could be taken for the security of the players. And yes no crime is justifiable. But what I want to say is maybe it would be better if all of us don't just blame the government and talk about how they could have handled the situation better. Because blaming is not gonna make a difference.

Western countries also took covid19 pandemic very serious that's why they all went to play IPL during the peak of covid19 in India. I am sure if PCB is so much wealthy as BCCI is of today, no country will refuse to play cricket there. Money plays a key role these days in every aspect of life.
Boards less Big-4 must sit together and demand ICC for there rights. Only this way they can solve there problems otherwise they will be abused by big-4 in future too.

[eaLiTy]

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Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

If Pakistan is playing with the same level of intensity that they displayed during the T20 World Cup they will defeat Bangladesh without much struggle. I am not sure what are the major changes in the team for ODI and Test but still Pakistan have a good team. The strength of Bangladesh revolves around certain players especially Shakib Al Hasan to deliver and if they fail the team will be in trouble most of the time.

[GbitG]

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Pakistan is a far better team than Bangladesh. They will easily win the series the T20 series. About the test series after the recent win in the T20 world cup, the team will be full of confidence and I am sure they will try to win the test series too but in the past, they have played very badly the test format. So it is a dice situation but we will be enjoying some good cricket.

If Pakistan is playing with the same level of intensity that they displayed during the T20 World Cup they will defeat Bangladesh without much struggle. I am not sure what are the major changes in the team for ODI and Test but still Pakistan have a good team. The strength of Bangladesh revolves around certain players especially Shakib Al Hasan to deliver and if they fail the team will be in trouble most of the time.

In this current tour of Bangladesh we have just 3 Twenty/20 and 2 test matches after watching Bangladesh in Twenty/20 World Cup, surely Pakistan can beat them in both formats because Bangladesh team is not having some good maturity, and they are losing cricket passion also which is very big threat for them. Few months back they were very good, but their current form is no world-class now Afghanistan with many difficulties and having no home advantage doing much better than Bangladesh. Right now we can hope some better fight from them in these both formats against Pakistan.
Shakib ul Hassan saga is also having very serious impact on this team performance he was a good player but just because of his behaviour now he is losing all respect and better future right now he is gaining money nothing else good in his credit.

[bilal_jan321]

If Pakistan is playing with the same level of intensity that they displayed during the T20 World Cup they will defeat Bangladesh without much struggle. I am not sure what are the major changes in the team for ODI and Test but still Pakistan have a good team. The strength of Bangladesh revolves around certain players especially Shakib Al Hasan to deliver and if they fail the team will be in trouble most of the time.

So far Pakistan has announced only T20 squad. Hassan Ali is still part of the team, the only change is Hafeez is replaced by Iftikhar Ahmed. Hafeez voluntary refused to be part of this squad, leaving slot for young player. I was hoping same from Malik but he is going with squad.
It very sad to see Bangladesh team not performing good in any format. Hope they will take this opportunity to revive there performance.

[eaLiTy]

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Shakib ul Hassan saga is also having very serious impact on this team performance he was a good player but just because of his behaviour now he is losing all respect and better future right now he is gaining money nothing else good in his credit.

The only concerns is his physical fitness, he was injured during the World Cup which had an impact on how they performed after that. I am not sure about his behavior and whether that is having an impact. He is the best player from Bangladesh ever and he should be given that respect which i think is lacking from the administrators as he is always fighting with the board.

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So far Pakistan has announced only T20 squad. Hassan Ali is still part of the team, the only change is Hafeez is replaced by Iftikhar Ahmed. Hafeez voluntary refused to be part of this squad, leaving slot for young player. I was hoping same from Malik but he is going with squad.
It very sad to see Bangladesh team not performing good in any format. Hope they will take this opportunity to revive there performance.

Hasan Ali had a bad tournament but he was performing well before that, you should not crucify a player from one bad tournament and more over the UAE pitches were not helping seam bowlers, you need to be express quick or have subtle variations to be a good bowler in those pitches.

Shoaib Malik and Hafeez must be given the freedom on what they want to do with their career. You cannot replace them all of a sudden because of age, they are still performing well and if Pakistan can find a potential player that could replace him, then we can think about replacing him.

[goku19]

If Pakistan is playing with the same level of intensity that they displayed during the T20 World Cup they will defeat Bangladesh without much struggle. I am not sure what are the major changes in the team for ODI and Test but still Pakistan have a good team. The strength of Bangladesh revolves around certain players especially Shakib Al Hasan to deliver and if they fail the team will be in trouble most of the time.

So far Pakistan has announced only T20 squad. Hassan Ali is still part of the team, the only change is Hafeez is replaced by Iftikhar Ahmed. Hafeez voluntary refused to be part of this squad, leaving slot for young player. I was hoping same from Malik but he is going with squad.
It very sad to see Bangladesh team not performing good in any format. Hope they will take this opportunity to revive there performance.

Malik is still in pakistan t20 squad which means that they are still seeing him play in the 2022 T20 world cup which is to be happened in australia. It is not too far away and they can do that, i think in hafeez can continue for one more year in t20 and then both of them can retire.
And yes really hope that bangladesh come back to form as they are a promising side, but just not done well recently.

[og kush420]

Malik is still in pakistan t20 squad which means that they are still seeing him play in the 2022 T20 world cup which is to be happened in australia. It is not too far away and they can do that, i think in hafeez can continue for one more year in t20 and then both of them can retire.
And yes really hope that bangladesh come back to form as they are a promising side, but just not done well recently.

Bangladesh wasn't able to win any test match against Pakistan till date. They were very close to winning test against Pakistan in 2003, thanks to responsible innings by inzamam Pakistan manage to win that test. Seeing the current form of Bangladesh I don't think there are much chances of Bangladesh winning any test match.

[Shagnasty]

Malik is still in pakistan t20 squad which means that they are still seeing him play in the 2022 T20 world cup which is to be happened in australia. It is not too far away and they can do that, i think in hafeez can continue for one more year in t20 and then both of them can retire.
And yes really hope that bangladesh come back to form as they are a promising side, but just not done well recently.

Bangladesh wasn't able to win any test match against Pakistan till date. They were very close to winning test against Pakistan in 2003, thanks to responsible innings by inzamam Pakistan manage to win that test. Seeing the current form of Bangladesh I don't think there are much chances of Bangladesh winning any test match.

Frankly speaking Bangladesh has never done wonders in test matches and not beaten good teams in test matches. Only some times in their conditions they beaten side like england when they were not at their best but beating any asian team in test matches as they are good against spin as well and main problem is bagladesh dont have good fast bowlers for test matches.

[Theones]

Frankly speaking Bangladesh has never done wonders in test matches and not beaten good teams in test matches. Only some times in their conditions they beaten side like england when they were not at their best but beating any asian team in test matches as they are good against spin as well and main problem is bagladesh dont have good fast bowlers for test matches.

T20 series against Bangladesh will start on 19 Nov 2021 and test will start from 26 Nov 2021. From betting perspective odds will be in favor of Pakistan though I haven't checked yet. I am afraid the way Bangladesh cricket is going, ICC will remove there Test status very soon and that will not be good for Bangladesh future cricket. Bangladesh cricket board must sit and think seriously about there team revival.

[HUSTLER]

Frankly speaking Bangladesh has never done wonders in test matches and not beaten good teams in test matches. Only some times in their conditions they beaten side like england when they were not at their best but beating any asian team in test matches as they are good against spin as well and main problem is bagladesh dont have good fast bowlers for test matches.

T20 series against Bangladesh will start on 19 Nov 2021 and test will start from 26 Nov 2021. From betting perspective odds will be in favor of Pakistan though I haven't checked yet. I am afraid the way Bangladesh cricket is going, ICC will remove there Test status very soon and that will not be good for Bangladesh future cricket. Bangladesh cricket board must sit and think seriously about there team revival.

I also have not checked but I am 100% sure that pakistan would be clear favorites and odds on pakistan will not be very much. So betting on winning before match can be risky. Yes during inplay odds will change and we may get good odds to place the bet at that time.
Yes they should Improve the quality of their test teams, and may be the series against pakistan could prove good for them.

[ene1980]

T20 series against Bangladesh will start on 19 Nov 2021 and test will start from 26 Nov 2021. From betting perspective odds will be in favor of Pakistan though I haven't checked yet. I am afraid the way Bangladesh cricket is going, ICC will remove there Test status very soon and that will not be good for Bangladesh future cricket. Bangladesh cricket board must sit and think seriously about there team revival.

Pakistan will be the favorite going into the match but Pakistan is touring Bangladesh and on home soil they always have an advantage as they defeated other strong teams but after watching the World Cup they might not be a force in the shorter format but i am expecting them to perform well in the Test series. It wont be a one sided match and we can expect good competitive cricket in the Test format and the Test status is safe with Bangladesh when teams like Zimbabwe have Test status.

[Sithara007]

Pakistan will be the favorite going into the match but Pakistan is touring Bangladesh and on home soil they always have an advantage as they defeated other strong teams but after watching the World Cup they might not be a force in the shorter format but i am expecting them to perform well in the Test series. It wont be a one sided match and we can expect good competitive cricket in the Test format and the Test status is safe with Bangladesh when teams like Zimbabwe have Test status.

I don't think that Bangladesh will have any sort of home advantage. Against New Zealand, they were able to make use of the home advantage because the New Zealand bowlers struggled against spin on a track that resembled more like a dust bowl. But Pakistani batsmen are very talented in handling spin bowlers and they themselves have some of the best spinners in the world right now. So in case Bangladesh prepare dust bowls, then it will end up helping the Pakistanis. Bangladesh may be competitive, but Pakistan will be the favorites.

[Maidak]

Pakistan will be the favorite going into the match but Pakistan is touring Bangladesh and on home soil they always have an advantage as they defeated other strong teams but after watching the World Cup they might not be a force in the shorter format but i am expecting them to perform well in the Test series. It wont be a one sided match and we can expect good competitive cricket in the Test format and the Test status is safe with Bangladesh when teams like Zimbabwe have Test status.

I don't think that Bangladesh will have any sort of home advantage. Against New Zealand, they were able to make use of the home advantage because the New Zealand bowlers struggled against spin on a track that resembled more like a dust bowl. But Pakistani batsmen are very talented in handling spin bowlers and they themselves have some of the best spinners in the world right now. So in case Bangladesh prepare dust bowls, then it will end up helping the Pakistanis. Bangladesh may be competitive, but Pakistan will be the favorites.

The main problem is Bangladesh is kind of in no form. They have their inside problem going on. Pakistan is surely the favorite here. And one of the main reasons why Bangladesh failed in the world cup is that they had no preparations for or the pitches that will be played in the world cup. They met their tracks suitable to themselves and that's why they failed so miserably.

[GbitG]

Pakistan will be the favorite going into the match but Pakistan is touring Bangladesh and on home soil they always have an advantage as they defeated other strong teams but after watching the World Cup they might not be a force in the shorter format but i am expecting them to perform well in the Test series. It wont be a one sided match and we can expect good competitive cricket in the Test format and the Test status is safe with Bangladesh when teams like Zimbabwe have Test status.

I don't think that Bangladesh will have any sort of home advantage. Against New Zealand, they were able to make use of the home advantage because the New Zealand bowlers struggled against spin on a track that resembled more like a dust bowl. But Pakistani batsmen are very talented in handling spin bowlers and they themselves have some of the best spinners in the world right now. So in case Bangladesh prepare dust bowls, then it will end up helping the Pakistanis. Bangladesh may be competitive, but Pakistan will be the favorites.

The main problem is Bangladesh is kind of in no form. They have their inside problem going on. Pakistan is surely the favorite here. And one of the main reasons why Bangladesh failed in the world cup is that they had no preparations for or the pitches that will be played in the world cup. They met their tracks suitable to themselves and that's why they failed so miserably.

Currently, mostly countries facing due to very weak domestic system they are not funding like we have in Australia, England and India its biggest threat to their international exposure. It needs some good investment which is not coming, so they have serious ups and downs in their International forms as well all countries need to have some good and quality domestic system which give some good confidence to their players for all situations Australian really investing some good, so they are having some good benefits from this in all formats recently we have some good in India as well but still need time for having good results. In Asia, we have no good country who can spend and in this way.

[Sithara007]

The main problem is Bangladesh is kind of in no form. They have their inside problem going on. Pakistan is surely the favorite here. And one of the main reasons why Bangladesh failed in the world cup is that they had no preparations for or the pitches that will be played in the world cup. They met their tracks suitable to themselves and that's why they failed so miserably.

The tracks that they prepared at Mirpur against New Zealand were pathetic. They were not of international quality. Bangladesh was able to sweep the series, since the inexperienced New Zealand batsmen couldn't handle the spinners in these tracks. But then they had to play the world cup matches in UAE and Oman, where the pitches were very flat. And this was when the Bangladeshi bowlers struggled to contain the batsmen. Remember that innings from Chris Greaves of Scotland?