ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[MusaPk]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.

They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports. Even Police forces are not secure there atm, the recent Peshawar blast is an example.

BCCI has refused to play in Pakistan even before Sethi sb took charge of PCB. Australia, England and New Zealand have toured Pakistan and everything went fine. Security of team is not an issue.
Peshawar blast has nothing to do with BCCI stance as they were not touring Pakistan ever since BJP has taken over government in India, india came to Pakistan in 2008 last time. PCB best option is not to travel to India for WC.

[n0ne]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.

They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports. Even Police forces are not secure there atm, the recent Peshawar blast is an example.

BCCI has refused to play in Pakistan even before Sethi sb took charge of PCB. Australia, England and New Zealand have toured Pakistan and everything went fine. Security of team is not an issue.
Peshawar blast has nothing to do with BCCI stance as they were not touring Pakistan ever since BJP has taken over government in India, india came to Pakistan in 2008 last time. PCB best option is not to travel to India for WC.

Pakistan not traveling to India for the WC not gonna cause any loss to the Indian Cricket team or the board. India holds the highest market for cricket and the absence of Pakistan will affect PCB. Already Australia, England, New Zealand, Ireland Women's team and more other teams have toured Pakistan. However India touring Pakistan and other countries touring Pakistan have got lot of difference. The ruling government of India makes big political game, no doubt it it, but we can't assure things will be perfect on Pakistan tour.

[Haunebu]

BCCI has refused to play in Pakistan even before Sethi sb took charge of PCB. Australia, England and New Zealand have toured Pakistan and everything went fine. Security of team is not an issue.
Peshawar blast has nothing to do with BCCI stance as they were not touring Pakistan ever since BJP has taken over government in India, india came to Pakistan in 2008 last time. PCB best option is not to travel to India for WC.

How can you say for sure that security won't be an issue for the Indian team? Can you predict the future or something? There is a huge difference between comparing Pakistan with India and other countries and you know what it is.

It's obviously Pakistan's loss if they skip the upcoming World Cup in India which is why that is their worst option.

[mm2543363580]

How can you say for sure that security won't be an issue for the Indian team? Can you predict the future or something? There is a huge difference between comparing Pakistan with India and other countries and you know what it is.

It's obviously Pakistan's loss if they skip the upcoming World Cup in India which is why that is their worst option.

I dont think there is any difference between India or any other team. Indian players are just ordinary guys like that in Australia, England or Zimbabwe. They have money that doesnt mean they have now become some supernatural creatures. They are not touring just because of political reason. Pakistan is as safe for cricket as any other country.

[keyscore44]

How can you say for sure that security won't be an issue for the Indian team? Can you predict the future or something? There is a huge difference between comparing Pakistan with India and other countries and you know what it is.

It's obviously Pakistan's loss if they skip the upcoming World Cup in India which is why that is their worst option.

I dont think there is any difference between India or any other team. Indian players are just ordinary guys like that in Australia, England or Zimbabwe. They have money that doesnt mean they have now become some supernatural creatures. They are not touring just because of political reason. Pakistan is as safe for cricket as any other country.

India is one of the best countries for cricket. India cricket team is one of the 5 teams in the world. They are developing themselves day by day. Preparing themselves brilliantly for the next World Cup.

[SATWAT]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.

They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports. Even Police forces are not secure there atm, the recent Peshawar blast is an example.

Pakistani won't understand the word No! As they have a weird constructive mind and imagination. They imagine that BCCI would come to the tables and
would say yes to their argument. A board that does not have money is representing a country that is on the verge of economic collapse and still, they have the guts to challenge the most powerful cricket board and an upcoming superpower country.

Being said that! As we Indians know they will now go to China and ask the Chinese for help in cricket lol! Whereas China is asking for help from India to get listed as a cricket team among the playing nations. PCB and the ruling government have become a joke for now. This country was a liar to its citizen and now the citizens know it all because Imran Khan Niyazi exposed the army. A week back I saw their PM on some mainstream media begging for help from India.

You are just a piece of shit and try to ruin this thread in negative way, so please stay in limits and try to grow up because it's a forum for having some positive talk not shit hopefully you will understand and try to post things related to cricket otherwise may be many others also follow like you, and we have big mess up which is never been ideal for you and others chill.

[darewaller]

There are some reasons first is that. India is not coming for Asia Cup in Pakistan. And the second is the economy crisis in Pakistan. ICC world cup asks too much funds so Pakistan has not much funds.
But still waiting for the announcement from the Pakistan Cricket Boad. Hope they will show the final decision soon.

At this point, I don't think that PCB is left with too many options. The most practical thing to do would be to move Asia Cup to a neutral venue and get some compensation from ICC or BCCI to cover the losses. Their economy is crashing and they can't afford a financial penalty from the ICC in case they pull out of the ODI world cup. The fight against pig-4 can't be done alone. PCB need to build strong bonds with other smaller full members and associate nations, if they want to take a stand against the discriminatory policies within the ICC.

Agree right now, PCB is having no luxury to stand against BCCI so better they need to understand this all situation and just go ahead with this Asia Cup in the UAE or any other neutral place with secondly they also need to travel to India for the ODI world cup 2023 which is beneficial for them and their finances.

Now or in near future I have feeling no one can stand against pig-4 because they have strong combination and better control, but things can change even takes time but right now best is gone ahead with this all and try to settle their inner issues which are also complicated and standing against these are never been profitable for them with no other board is going to give them any support.

[savetheFORUM]

I dont think there is any difference between India or any other team. Indian players are just ordinary guys like that in Australia, England or Zimbabwe. They have money that doesnt mean they have now become some supernatural creatures. They are not touring just because of political reason. Pakistan is as safe for cricket as any other country.

India is one of the best countries for cricket. India cricket team is one of the 5 teams in the world. They are developing themselves day by day. Preparing themselves brilliantly for the next World Cup.

Even your statement is partially correct but still this is not all about best and having the best players and team right now BCCI and Indian authorities are having strong power in cricket, and they are using this all for their own sack by right way without having any soft corner for the arch rival Pakistan which is surely going down or already defaulted, but things are going not in their favour just because of bad management so with this all now if Pakistan wants to survive in cricket then surely they need to work on few basics and not doing any wrong decision which give them more headache for the future specially now better just change the venue for the Asia Cricket Cup and allow their players for visiting India to play world cup which is also good and important for them.

[fuguebtc]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.
They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports. Even Police forces are not secure there atm, the recent Peshawar blast is an example.

Pakistani won't understand the word No! As they have a weird constructive mind and imagination. They imagine that BCCI would come to the tables and
would say yes to their argument. A board that does not have money is representing a country that is on the verge of economic collapse and still, they have the guts to challenge the most powerful cricket board and an upcoming superpower country.
Being said that! As we Indians know they will now go to China and ask the Chinese for help in cricket lol! Whereas China is asking for help from India to get listed as a cricket team among the playing nations. PCB and the ruling government have become a joke for now. This country was a liar to its citizen and now the citizens know it all because Imran Khan Niyazi exposed the army. A week back I saw their PM on some mainstream media begging for help from India.

First of all, I do not understand why India is refusing to go to Pakistan for Asia Cup. I suppose we are talking about Asia Cup. It was decided a long time ago. And just because India is showing so much problems does not mean that Asia Cup will have to be taken place in another nation.

But at the same time, I also understand the concerns of India. They are also in the right to not let the players go somewhere where it can become a big issue of life and death. After all, I am going to say that the politics and political situation in Pakistan is not stable at all.

[JSRAW]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.

They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports. Even Police forces are not secure there atm, the recent Peshawar blast is an example.

BCCI has refused to play in Pakistan even before Sethi sb took charge of PCB. Australia, England and New Zealand have toured Pakistan and everything went fine. Security of team is not an issue.
Peshawar blast has nothing to do with BCCI stance as they were not touring Pakistan ever since BJP has taken over government in India, india came to Pakistan in 2008 last time. PCB best option is not to travel to India for WC.

IMO It's pretty unproductive to reply without any facts. I know in general fair amount of pakbros are a bit ignorant when it comes to history but they can at least try to be accurate or honest when it comes to cricket.

The last time Indian team toured there was back in 2005-06, not 2008. This brings us to the second part, yeah I agree BJP invented the time machine and they went back to the timeline when Congress was in power and stopped Indian team to visit Pakistan, evil BJP. #MudiSuldRezine

Sethi and PCB's officials should have some self-respect. They again repeated the same question in ACC meeting which was scheduled in Bahrain and BCCI said No again. I would say Props to Pakistan if they opt to boycott the upcoming WC.

Terrorists popping up here n there and blowing the majids and innocent police officers but sure security of players is not an issue at all. Security is the biggest issue for Indian team, that's why everyone from the PCB keeps offering Presidential security to every visiting team. Think about repercussions if something goes wrong, even if there is a 1% chance. Pakistan is in mess on the Western front already and it takes one security lapse to make matter worse and our Borders will become red hot.

Indians are focused on the economy and other stuff. Virtually can't afford to have another useless distraction on the border just because some privileged people want to watch cricket between India and Pakistan.

[BobK71]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.
They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports. Even Police forces are not secure there atm, the recent Peshawar blast is an example.

Pakistani won't understand the word No! As they have a weird constructive mind and imagination. They imagine that BCCI would come to the tables and
would say yes to their argument. A board that does not have money is representing a country that is on the verge of economic collapse and still, they have the guts to challenge the most powerful cricket board and an upcoming superpower country.
Being said that! As we Indians know they will now go to China and ask the Chinese for help in cricket lol! Whereas China is asking for help from India to get listed as a cricket team among the playing nations. PCB and the ruling government have become a joke for now. This country was a liar to its citizen and now the citizens know it all because Imran Khan Niyazi exposed the army. A week back I saw their PM on some mainstream media begging for help from India.

First of all, I do not understand why India is refusing to go to Pakistan for Asia Cup. I suppose we are talking about Asia Cup. It was decided a long time ago. And just because India is showing so much problems does not mean that Asia Cup will have to be taken place in another nation.

But at the same time, I also understand the concerns of India. They are also in the right to not let the players go somewhere where it can become a big issue of life and death. After all, I am going to say that the politics and political situation in Pakistan is not stable at all.

In the history of the world, the terrorist activities that happened in Pakistan cricket did not happen in any other country. Moreover ‍terrorist attacks are often happen in Pakistan. Law enforcement in the country is not very good. Moreover, international cricket was banned in their country for a long time and no country agreed to play there even if they got permission. However, in recent times, a few countries have started playing there again. If a country is still not willing to play in Pakistan due to security reason there is nothing to do. But I have no idea what are the negative impacts of playing in Pakistan or why India want to change the venue of the Asia Cup.

[pakhitheboss]

A final decision on whether Pakistan will host the 2023 Asia Cup is now expected in March, after an Asian Cricket Council (ACC) meeting in Bahrain failed to reach a breakthrough. They will meet again in a month's time, around the next set of ICC meetings.

Ultimately it will be hosted in UAE. Most probably Pakistan would boycott the Asia cup. I do not think they can afford to boycott ODIWC otherwise they will lose the ICC money. PCB cannot afford to lose that amount considering the present economic condition of Pakistan.
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[ZAINmalik75]

BCCI recently said No (for the 100th time). This answer is not going to change, no matter how hard Sethi Saab or PCB try.

BCCl always show that they are independent cricket board but it's totally wrong , they took every decision on BJP leader order, and that the reason of BCCI declineing indian visit to Pakistan. But Anyway if India took venue from Pakistan and shit it to UAE, then Pakistan will also demand ICC to shit world cup venue from India to UAE otherwise Pakistan will not participate in world cup as a result India will lose all handsome revenue which will generate from Pakistan and India match.

They won't risk the player's life for cricket despite getting presidential-level security and rightly so, as life is more important than sports.

Even world championship team england, most world cup winner team Australia, the horror dream of India newZealand can visit Pakistan then why not india, why just indian player are in danger in Pakistan, I think Pakistan should solve Thier security problem just like they solve the newZealand security concerns lol 😂😂

[BobK71]

A final decision on whether Pakistan will host the 2023 Asia Cup is now expected in March, after an Asian Cricket Council (ACC) meeting in Bahrain failed to reach a breakthrough. They will meet again in a month's time, around the next set of ICC meetings.

Ultimately it will be hosted in UAE. Most probably Pakistan would boycott the Asia cup. I do not think they can afford to boycott ODIWC otherwise they will lose the ICC money. PCB cannot afford to lose that amount considering the present economic condition of Pakistan.
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If they want participate in ODI cricket, they will probably also participate in the Asia Cup. Money is not the main point in this issue, they have to do this for their reputation. Moreover, although UAE is not their own venue, they have been conducting cricket matches at that venue for a long time. They can accept that venue. However, there is still no news about the final decision. I think it will be a big disaster for them financially if they don't participate in World Cup cricket.

[MusaPk]

IMO It's pretty unproductive to reply without any facts. I know in general fair amount of pakbros are a bit ignorant when it comes to history but they can at least try to be accurate or honest when it comes to cricket.

The last time Indian team toured there was back in 2005-06, not 2008. This brings us to the second part, yeah I agree BJP invented the time machine and they went back to the timeline when Congress was in power and stopped Indian team to visit Pakistan, evil BJP. #MudiSuldRezine

Bhai saab India was in Pakistan in 2008 for Asia Cup and its Asia cup once again for which India is not coming not a bilateral series.
I have stats of that here https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/asia-cup-2008-298014/india-vs-sri-lanka-final-335358/full-scorecard

Sethi and PCB's officials should have some self-respect. They again repeated the same question in ACC meeting which was scheduled in Bahrain and BCCI said No again. I would say Props to Pakistan if they opt to boycott the upcoming WC.

Terrorists popping up here n there and blowing the majids and innocent police officers but sure security of players is not an issue at all. Security is the biggest issue for Indian team, that's why everyone from the PCB keeps offering Presidential security to every visiting team. Think about repercussions if something goes wrong, even if there is a 1% chance. Pakistan is in mess on the Western front already and it takes one security lapse to make matter worse and our Borders will become red hot.

Indians are focused on the economy and other stuff. Virtually can't afford to have another useless distraction on the border just because some privileged people want to watch cricket between India and Pakistan.

I remind you again that India is not touring Pakistan since 2008. They refused to play in Pakistan well before this latest blast in Peshawar and the excuse is same that they don't wanna go to Pakistan due to government orders.
I saw in news today that PCB has also announced not to participate in ODI world cup, which in my opinion is a good decision. Since no financial gain is superior to National Pride and dignify.

[JSRAW]

IMO It's pretty unproductive to reply without any facts. I know in general fair amount of pakbros are a bit ignorant when it comes to history but they can at least try to be accurate or honest when it comes to cricket.

The last time Indian team toured there was back in 2005-06, not 2008. This brings us to the second part, yeah I agree BJP invented the time machine and they went back to the timeline when Congress was in power and stopped Indian team to visit Pakistan, evil BJP. #MudiSuldRezine

Bhai saab India was in Pakistan in 2008 for Asia Cup and its Asia cup once again for which India is not coming not a bilateral series.
I have stats of that here https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/asia-cup-2008-298014/india-vs-sri-lanka-final-335358/full-scorecard

PCB's all argument is based on bilateral (MOU), not Asia Cup, hence no one counts it even within the PCB (in fact BCCI wanted to add this to strengthen their case but PCB rejected it). You can check the official MOU reports which were sent by PCB to BCCI after Mumbai terrorist attack, it got rejected by the latter (during Congress rule), then PCB challenged this in ICC’s Dispute Resolution Committee in 2015 (during BJP rule), in context of 2012-13 series and they lost the case and ended up paying million dollars to BCCI because BCCI never signed the MOU. The Mumbai attack and this rejected MOU draft created this cycle and like it or not but it'll go on for another decade or so, doesn't matter who is sitting in New Delhi, be it Congress or BJP.

PS : I should've mentioned this MOU case in my previous post so my mistake. I thought it was a well known incident.

Sethi and PCB's officials should have some self-respect. They again repeated the same question in ACC meeting which was scheduled in Bahrain and BCCI said No again. I would say Props to Pakistan if they opt to boycott the upcoming WC.

Terrorists popping up here n there and blowing the majids and innocent police officers but sure security of players is not an issue at all. Security is the biggest issue for Indian team, that's why everyone from the PCB keeps offering Presidential security to every visiting team. Think about repercussions if something goes wrong, even if there is a 1% chance. Pakistan is in mess on the Western front already and it takes one security lapse to make matter worse and our Borders will become red hot.

Indians are focused on the economy and other stuff. Virtually can't afford to have another useless distraction on the border just because some privileged people want to watch cricket between India and Pakistan.

I remind you again that India is not touring Pakistan since 2008. They refused to play in Pakistan well before this latest blast in Peshawar and the excuse is same that they don't wanna go to Pakistan due to government orders.
I saw in news today that PCB has also announced not to participate in ODI world cup, which in my opinion is a good decision. Since no financial gain is superior to National Pride and dignify.

Covered 2008 part with MOU related stuff. Also covered the security/gov topic in my previous post.

I am counting on PCB to boycott the WC. I am all in for Drama and meltdown, more powers to PCB and their cheerleaders.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

A final decision on whether Pakistan will host the 2023 Asia Cup is now expected in March, after an Asian Cricket Council (ACC) meeting in Bahrain failed to reach a breakthrough. They will meet again in a month's time, around the next set of ICC meetings.

Ultimately it will be hosted in UAE. Most probably Pakistan would boycott the Asia cup. I do not think they can afford to boycott ODIWC otherwise they will lose the ICC money. PCB cannot afford to lose that amount considering the present economic condition of Pakistan.
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If they want participate in ODI cricket, they will probably also participate in the Asia Cup. Money is not the main point in this issue, they have to do this for their reputation. Moreover, although UAE is not their own venue, they have been conducting cricket matches at that venue for a long time. They can accept that venue. However, there is still no news about the final decision. I think it will be a big disaster for them financially if they don't participate in World Cup cricket.

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup. 
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

[Haunebu]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup. 
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

Lame fears? How dumb are you shill? Would you be willing to travel to Pakistan where bombings happen on a regular basis putting your life at risk? I don't think you would which is why you need to improve your brainpower.

Cricketers are humans at the end of the day which is why their safety matters the most to them just like any other human being.

[elevates]

This is really tough for any country to leave rights of hosting any event,  just because of their lame fears how can ICC change the venue of Asia Cup.  
If all of a sudden something happened in Pakistan right before this meeting this is not their fault . These things can happen  in any country .

You might be living among terrorists or I guess you are now least bothered with what is happening near you. We Indians are living in peace and yes we do fear for our lives. After Modi became the PM of our country we have not seen any terrorist activities like what used to happen when Congress was in power. Our country is more focused on the growth & upliftment of every citizen economically and to an extent, our PM has been able to do it.

Indian cricket has thrived without a single bilateral series with Pakistan but unfortunately, Pakistan has not, and nor has the country.  BCCI does not need revenue from a single match, ODIWC, and Asia Cup. BCCI has IPL and now it has WIPL.

Except for the Punjab province of Pakistan, all other provinces are struggling and people are dying for food. When Pakistan cannot provide food security to its own citizens how can it provide life security to Indian players? Think about it! Rather thinking about India or BCCI.

[savetheFORUM]

Sethi and PCB's officials should have some self-respect. They again repeated the same question in ACC meeting which was scheduled in Bahrain and BCCI said No again. I would say Props to Pakistan if they opt to boycott the upcoming WC.

Terrorists popping up here n there and blowing the majids and innocent police officers but sure security of players is not an issue at all. Security is the biggest issue for Indian team, that's why everyone from the PCB keeps offering Presidential security to every visiting team. Think about repercussions if something goes wrong, even if there is a 1% chance. Pakistan is in mess on the Western front already and it takes one security lapse to make matter worse and our Borders will become red hot.

Indians are focused on the economy and other stuff. Virtually can't afford to have another useless distraction on the border just because some privileged people want to watch cricket between India and Pakistan.

I remind you again that India is not touring Pakistan since 2008. They refused to play in Pakistan well before this latest blast in Peshawar and the excuse is same that they don't wanna go to Pakistan due to government orders.
I saw in news today that PCB has also announced not to participate in ODI world cup, which in my opinion is a good decision. Since no financial gain is superior to National Pride and dignify.

Even I have feeling here talk is completely waste of time, and we have nothing positive about this all because final decisions are coming from the relative authorities and boards but still I have feeling PCB is saying they will not go for the World Cup is not right decision because with these things can go worst for them, and they can lose funds and many more things even I have feeling India is trying hard for destroy Pakistani cricket with their power which is not possible but still right now if they have some sense they have to visit India for the world cup and also try to move Asia Cup in any other country which could be beneficial for them on and off the field but still last decision is coming from PCB and Government of Pakistan in March so lets wait and watch how things will be ended for this all.