2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Hypnosis00]

Dragons vs Bolts
Northport vs Rain or Shine

These are the games tomorrow, the first game is quite exciting because if McDaniels will, things are going to be hard for the Dragons despite the fact that they have been dominating the teams they beat in their past games. By the way, the betting spread are below.

Dragons -10.5
ROS -3.5

You got 0-2.

Meralco beat the Dragons by 3 points, wow... their import is really legit because he lead the team by scoring 31 points and spoil Nicholson's 50 points performance. I'm wondering what's the ML odds for Meralco.

Also, ROS win but did not cover. 

We are not wrong with your expectation, KJ McDaniels is the answer for the Meralco's struggle, beating the Dragons is not an easy job but they were able to do it. Now, I can say that Meralco can be a championship contender team, this conference has become more unpredictable because of many teams that have good imports.

If we look at the https://pba.ph/standings, it's very close, so it's hard to predict.

[bisdak40]

We are not wrong with your expectation, KJ McDaniels is the answer for the Meralco's struggle, beating the Dragons is not an easy job but they were able to do it. Now, I can say that Meralco can be a championship contender team, this conference has become more unpredictable because of many teams that have good imports.

If we look at the https://pba.ph/standings, it's very close, so it's hard to predict.

With McDaniels' entry to the Meralco Bolts, i could say that they are now a serious contender for the championship trophy, they just need to win most of their remaining games as the standings right now is pretty much tight in the middle and yeah that win on the Dragons was the booster shot that they really needed.

For tonight's game I have bet for NLEX @2.08 against a young and gutsy Converge.

[blockman]

I missed the game of Dragons and I've seen they've lost but what has happened when there's the referee there that's now on the investigation?
What was that wrong call that has been given by that referee for that game? A lot of bashing I'm starting to see again on the refs and the PBA again, about this "cooking" thing "activated".

[harizen]

With McDaniels' entry to the Meralco Bolts, i could say that they are now a serious contender for the championship trophy, they just need to win most of their remaining games as the standings right now is pretty much tight in the middle and yeah that win on the Dragons was the booster shot that they really needed.

KJ McDaniels is really superb. We already witnessed how good he is during his time with TNT and NLEX, and Meralco has a good decision to replace their import before it's getting too late. At least they can still have a chance to avoid being eliminated as long as they will establish continuous wins.

With Mcdaniel's return, Meralco's chance to be back in competition is now possible. Although they will really need to undergo as task tough and hard challenges as they really end up in the lower standing at this conference.

[LogitechMouse]

With McDaniels' entry to the Meralco Bolts, i could say that they are now a serious contender for the championship trophy, they just need to win most of their remaining games as the standings right now is pretty much tight in the middle and yeah that win on the Dragons was the booster shot that they really needed.

KJ McDaniels is really superb. We already witnessed how good he is during his time with TNT and NLEX, and Meralco has a good decision to replace their import before it's getting too late. At least they can still have a chance to avoid being eliminated as long as they will establish continuous wins.

With Mcdaniel's return, Meralco's chance to be back in competition is now possible. Although they will really need to undergo as task tough and hard challenges as they really end up in the lower standing at this conference.

Who here aside from me put a bet on the Bolts before the game against the Dragons? . Congratulations to us. I entered at around 4.06 odd I think, and I won.
If you are watching PBA for quite some time especially when it's a conference where there is an import, you already know what McDaniels can give to his team. He led TNT and NLEX to top spots when he played and now, he is with Bolts that is at the bottom. I just believe in him and put a bet on him and luckily, I won.

Now with regards to the Bolts as a whole, it will be hard for them, but they can still enter the playoffs. They already have 5 losses and for a team to enter the playoffs, it has to be at least 6 wins to have a chance. They only have 5 games left so in order for them to at least have a chance, they need to win at least 4 of their remaining 5 games. It is doable, but it is hard.

[Fredomago]

With McDaniels' entry to the Meralco Bolts, i could say that they are now a serious contender for the championship trophy, they just need to win most of their remaining games as the standings right now is pretty much tight in the middle and yeah that win on the Dragons was the booster shot that they really needed.

KJ McDaniels is really superb. We already witnessed how good he is during his time with TNT and NLEX, and Meralco has a good decision to replace their import before it's getting too late. At least they can still have a chance to avoid being eliminated as long as they will establish continuous wins.

With Mcdaniel's return, Meralco's chance to be back in competition is now possible. Although they will really need to undergo as task tough and hard challenges as they really end up in the lower standing at this conference.

Yeah, his impact as a leader can bring Bolts to a competitive stand, though it's tough now since they needed to keep winning for them to get the spot to move forward, maybe yes it's doable but McDaniels alone can't do it he needs all the locals to play their respective roles in order to snatch the place for the playoff.

I missed the game of Dragons and I've seen they've lost but what has happened when there's the referee there that's now on the investigation?
What was that wrong call that has been given by that referee for that game? A lot of bashing I'm starting to see again on the refs and the PBA again, about this "cooking" thing "activated".

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

[Sanitough]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

[Johnyz]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Money will always speak and there is too much politics with PBA, I'm just wondering if those big companies will really fight just because of the miss calls with the referees, I'm sure they also have a deal in private, after all they are all business men who knows how to deal with this kind of situation.

It's just sad to see the wrong calls and the effort of the players are being wasted. Well, what we can expect for PBA though they can suspend that referee but I'm sure they will not do anything to address this issues, they will just ignore it.

[Baofeng]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Yes, this is one reason that I don't watch the PBA to be honest in the last couple of years, on the Pangilinans and Cojuangcos are always in the finals. And most of the time they are giving favors by the refs and even the commissioner himself. Gone are the days wherein it was really that competitive and players are really literally go and kill themselves inside the court just to get a win (yeah, maybe I'm absurd, but you know what I mean). Or maybe I really old school and have seen the early years of the PBA and now I can't understand how the league turn out to be like this.

[Yatsan]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Money will always speak and there is too much politics with PBA, I'm just wondering if those big companies will really fight just because of the miss calls with the referees, I'm sure they also have a deal in private, after all they are all business men who knows how to deal with this kind of situation.

It's just sad to see the wrong calls and the effort of the players are being wasted. Well, what we can expect for PBA though they can suspend that referee but I'm sure they will not do anything to address this issues, they will just ignore it.

Makes it unfortunate. I won't say I miss the old days in this league 'coz what's happening at the present was also evident before as what my father have told me (he's a Ginebra fan btw for more than a decade). Money is power in the Philippines no matter what industry that is, it will always rule which kills the enjoyment of everything. Right now there are many on going leagues and on the others, they are worse to the extent wherein some professional players are taking an eye with what is happening and being seen on national television. When it comes on PBA to be specific, I guess politics is more evident with the players' line up in the first place. You can see teams which are full of 'big names' (well it is not really a bad thing if we are talking about business, the franchise can just afford buying whoever they want), which somewhat kills the excitement. Even before the playoffs you could already expect whose teams would meet in the finals LOL.

However, if you'd get use to it, you'll just find a way to atleast enjoy a bit. There are still players who are really good despite of not being in the spotlight.

[Russlenat]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Yes, this is one reason that I don't watch the PBA to be honest in the last couple of years, on the Pangilinans and Cojuangcos are always in the finals. And most of the time they are giving favors by the refs and even the commissioner himself. Gone are the days wherein it was really that competitive and players are really literally go and kill themselves inside the court just to get a win (yeah, maybe I'm absurd, but you know what I mean). Or maybe I really old school and have seen the early years of the PBA and now I can't understand how the league turn out to be like this.

They are controlling this league, the fact that they have plenty of teams, only tells they are in control, just like a corporation where they own the majority of the stocks, they always have the voting power and influence. Well, I hope they'll change this league for the better, only one team for an owner, that will make the league more competitive and more independent.

[Shamm]

Do you think that changing their import will help the team reach the playoffs? In general, a team need at least 6 wins in order to secure a spot in the playoffs. It will be hard for KJ, but I guess he can do it since he already did with NLEX on his last stint.

With their worst standing right now, no choice after all but to really made some changes that's why yes, changing their import is necessary.

We know the capability of KJ McDaniels that if only the pandemic didn't delay the last year's PBA, we might see NLEX competing at the top.

KJ McDaniels now played on all MVP teams, starting from Talk N Text, NLEX, and now, Meralco.

As you said above mate is correct KJ Mc Daniels played in Talk N Text and NLEX before and now he is in Meralco which is pretty good as we all know how KJ McDaniel play in the court which is he can really carry his team to victory and we all know that stats of KJ McDaniel his average points  are greater or bigger than other imports, which is the most important in the team because if their import is good then our local players will be play good as well.

[Scripture]

As you said above mate is correct KJ Mc Daniels played in Talk N Text and NLEX before and now he is in Meralco which is pretty good as we all know how KJ McDaniel play in the court which is he can really carry his team to victory and we all know that stats of KJ McDaniel his average points  are greater or bigger than other imports, which is the most important in the team because if their import is good then our local players will be play good as well.

There's no doubt about the talent of KJ, but considering the current standing of Meralco it will be hard for him to carry the whole team going into the playoff.
Their local players should contribute more and help their import to get a score, unfortunately this might be already late for them and playing with the other team, Meralco is on a verge of being eliminated here, too bad for their franchise for this conference. KJ should look for a better team next time where he can get a big help from other players.

[Sanitough]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Money will always speak and there is too much politics with PBA, I'm just wondering if those big companies will really fight just because of the miss calls with the referees, I'm sure they also have a deal in private, after all they are all business men who knows how to deal with this kind of situation.

It's just sad to see the wrong calls and the effort of the players are being wasted. Well, what we can expect for PBA though they can suspend that referee but I'm sure they will not do anything to address this issues, they will just ignore it.

Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games. 

[Fredomago]

No need to worry as PBA commissioner will always be there to save refs ass. If there's any investigation, I'm pretty sure it will be quick to forget, Com. Marcial can't do anything against MVP's group of company, we know that right?

They will not do anything if the order is coming from them to rig the game. PBA is known to be a rigged basketball league so it's not surprising to see a ref trying to favor a certain team to win, whether it's Pangilinan or Cojuangco's team, it doesn't matter as long as the order is coming from above.

Money will always speak and there is too much politics with PBA, I'm just wondering if those big companies will really fight just because of the miss calls with the referees, I'm sure they also have a deal in private, after all they are all business men who knows how to deal with this kind of situation.

It's just sad to see the wrong calls and the effort of the players are being wasted. Well, what we can expect for PBA though they can suspend that referee but I'm sure they will not do anything to address this issues, they will just ignore it.

Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games. 

Indeed! the business will continue even there's a lot of rumors and controversies as long as they are being paid and fans continue to buy tickets, then Marcial will continue to follow orders from the giant companies who really running the league. Though that kind of controversy can bring more hate for this league, especially that the involve team is a visiting one which will re-think their participation again after experiencing this bad call from the referee.

Moving forward, still got a lot of games to watch and bet on. We just need to treat this as normal scenery from PBA, then leave it behind and try to analyze and pick for your next bet..

[harizen]

What an impressive performance is again shown by Converge last night.

They played without an import the whole second half and still, dominate the NLEX Road Warriors by a big lead. What's more, if their import, Quincy Miller, is able to play the whole game, we might expect that a much big lead happened.

Converge Head Coach Ayo is already showing his coaching skills. He knows well how to rotate his players and almost the entire active roster on that game was given a good playing time. We often don't see a coach using all the entire players in a game with provided good playing time.

[agustina2]

Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games. 

But let's also consider that Meralco as an underdog able to close out the game with the Dragons. That said violation that being missed call by a referee doesn't change the fact that Meralco keeps up with the foreign team in the first place, I think only a few imagined that Meralco would win.

Dragons are a tough team but the underdog Meralco finds a way to keep the game close. Even if there's a miss call, we should give credit to Meralco for winning that game. About the ref, a suspension is really a must as refs should not influence the result of the game especially in crucial times.

[Russlenat]

Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games. 

But let's also consider that Meralco as an underdog able to close out the game with the Dragons. That said violation that being missed call by a referee doesn't change the fact that Meralco keeps up with the foreign team in the first place, I think only a few imagined that Meralco would win.

Dragons are a tough team but the underdog Meralco finds a way to keep the game close. Even if there's a miss call, we should give credit to Meralco for winning that game. About the ref, a suspension is really a must as refs should not influence the result of the game especially in crucial times.

Thanks to their new import because without him, Meralco will continue to tank. Only 2 teams have defeated the Dragons so far, Ginebra and Meralco and they are not anymore the number 1 team as Magnolia had already replaced them. I like what's happening, it only proved that there's no team now that is a heavy favorite to win the finals.

[Japinat]

Ginebra vs SMB is the main attraction tonight. Ginebra is -4.5, I guess it's a good point spread considering Fajardo is still not back.

I know SMB won their last game but Ginebra is just too good for SMB who is not a complete team so far.
Or, if I'm a bit doubtful, I might wait for an opportunity to get a better value through live betting.

[Fredomago]

Suspending the ref will be their sole action, and it's not a big problem as they can always find a replacement, and the league will continue running with a ruined reputation. Well, we are still watching PBA games, so despite their reputation, we still love to watch PBA games. 

But let's also consider that Meralco as an underdog able to close out the game with the Dragons. That said violation that being missed call by a referee doesn't change the fact that Meralco keeps up with the foreign team in the first place, I think only a few imagined that Meralco would win.

Dragons are a tough team but the underdog Meralco finds a way to keep the game close. Even if there's a miss call, we should give credit to Meralco for winning that game. About the ref, a suspension is really a must as refs should not influence the result of the game especially in crucial times.

Thanks to their new import because without him, Meralco will continue to tank. Only 2 teams have defeated the Dragons so far, Ginebra and Meralco and they are not anymore the number 1 team as Magnolia had already replaced them. I like what's happening, it only proved that there's no team now that is a heavy favorite to win the finals.

And when the second round take place then we will all realize that it's just like the same drama either SMC or MVP will be there in the finals, though now only one of them can get the ticket since the Bay Area is really bringing a lot of competitiveness, but I'm not closing the possibilities that a solo franchise will manage to move forward, I'm noticing the hard work of Converge import and how the locals are competing alongside of him.

A good sign that the team is really trying to make their presence be felt by the league. Remember back the old Alaska they are also doing their presence be recognized.