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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 16 (45.7%)
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November 11, 2023, 01:18:50 PM
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RHJ is back, and with him, TNT might start winning again.

TNT is currently dominating the game, outscoring Converge by a double-digit margin. I'm concerned that Converge might end up winless this season, especially considering their struggles against teams like Blackwater, let alone stronger ones like SMB, TNT, Ginebra, and others. The local players are performing well, particularly Oftana. It seems like his confidence has surged after participating in the international competition. It's interesting to note that he and RHJ, who was part of different teams that faced in the Asian Cup Finals, are now teammates and the top scorers of the team.
It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

I thought it would be an easy win for TNT, but it turned out to be a close game that even went to overtime. TNT was lucky to snatch this one, but it was quite a nail-biter. Anyway, I think RHJ needs to improve his game, but it's understandable as he was coming back from a health problem, so he probably isn't at 100% yet in this game. However, what matters is that they won the game. Next time, they just have to make sure they know how to take care of their big lead.

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November 11, 2023, 01:27:17 PM
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RHJ is back, and with him, TNT might start winning again.

TNT is currently dominating the game, outscoring Converge by a double-digit margin. I'm concerned that Converge might end up winless this season, especially considering their struggles against teams like Blackwater, let alone stronger ones like SMB, TNT, Ginebra, and others. The local players are performing well, particularly Oftana. It seems like his confidence has surged after participating in the international competition. It's interesting to note that he and RHJ, who was part of different teams that faced in the Asian Cup Finals, are now teammates and the top scorers of the team.
It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

I thought it would be an easy win for TNT, but it turned out to be a close game that even went to overtime. TNT was lucky to snatch this one, but it was quite a nail-biter. Anyway, I think RHJ needs to improve his game, but it's understandable as he was coming back from a health problem, so he probably isn't at 100% yet in this game. However, what matters is that they won the game. Next time, they just have to make sure they know how to take care of their big lead.

Better luck next time for bettors who trusted TNT to win with the spread. I'm not sure what the handicap was in this game, but given RHJ's return and Converge's poor performance against Blackwater, I'm guessing it was at least -5.5 for TNT, which they didn't cover despite the win.

Looking ahead, we have two games tomorrow. The first is Northport vs. ROS, while the second is Phoenix vs. Magnolia. We'll see if Rivero can still deliver against a tougher team.


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November 11, 2023, 02:13:16 PM
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RHJ is back, and with him, TNT might start winning again.

TNT is currently dominating the game, outscoring Converge by a double-digit margin. I'm concerned that Converge might end up winless this season, especially considering their struggles against teams like Blackwater, let alone stronger ones like SMB, TNT, Ginebra, and others. The local players are performing well, particularly Oftana. It seems like his confidence has surged after participating in the international competition. It's interesting to note that he and RHJ, who was part of different teams that faced in the Asian Cup Finals, are now teammates and the top scorers of the team.
It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

I thought it would be an easy win for TNT, but it turned out to be a close game that even went to overtime. TNT was lucky to snatch this one, but it was quite a nail-biter. Anyway, I think RHJ needs to improve his game, but it's understandable as he was coming back from a health problem, so he probably isn't at 100% yet in this game. However, what matters is that they won the game. Next time, they just have to make sure they know how to take care of their big lead.

Better luck next time for bettors who trusted TNT to win with the spread. I'm not sure what the handicap was in this game, but given RHJ's return and Converge's poor performance against Blackwater, I'm guessing it was at least -5.5 for TNT, which they didn't cover despite the win.

Looking ahead, we have two games tomorrow. The first is Northport vs. ROS, while the second is Phoenix vs. Magnolia. We'll see if Rivero can still deliver against a tougher team.
I'm actually expecting to have a good spread with this game but it looks like Converge will not lose that easily but still TNT got a lucky break win and take a win. RHJ will improve more for sure, good thing he came back and become more healthy.  I'm still analyzing the game for tomorrow before I place my bet, can't wait to see their Rookies doing a big impact on their game.
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November 11, 2023, 02:40:05 PM
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It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

Yeah, it's good to see RHJ back and right night they are ahead by 6 points with 3 minutes to go in the fourth quarter. RHJ did not score heavily here as he's got only 14 points but he got a lot of help from the locals, especially from Calvin Oftana who has now 18 points in the game.

I've read an article today that TNT has terminated the contract of Mikey Williams, so this means that he will no longer play for TNT or in the PBA, to say the least.

TnT almost loss this game but by the help of individual they finish the match lead up to 3 point which is 1 game position. But anyways they show us a good matchup. Also  Jason Castro doing very well even in his age he can still  assist to carry thier team into victory and now they have already 1-1 standing which pretty good win today to tie thier records. Tomorrow Northport vs Rain or shine and the second game is Phoenix vs magnolia maybe I'll go for Rain or shine and magnolia tomorrow.


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November 11, 2023, 02:58:29 PM
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It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

Yeah, it's good to see RHJ back and right night they are ahead by 6 points with 3 minutes to go in the fourth quarter. RHJ did not score heavily here as he's got only 14 points but he got a lot of help from the locals, especially from Calvin Oftana who has now 18 points in the game.

I've read an article today that TNT has terminated the contract of Mikey Williams, so this means that he will no longer play for TNT or in the PBA, to say the least.

TnT almost loss this game but by the help of individual they finish the match lead up to 3 point which is 1 game position. But anyways they show us a good matchup. Also  Jason Castro doing very well even in his age he can still  assist to carry thier team into victory and now they have already 1-1 standing which pretty good win today to tie thier records. Tomorrow Northport vs Rain or shine and the second game is Phoenix vs magnolia maybe I'll go for Rain or shine and magnolia tomorrow.




Castro seems needs to adjust and go back in time, without Mickey and Roger TNT is really needed him, Oftana can't do it alone plus the fact that earlier even RHJ is back he needed to rest late in the third quarter not sure because any injury but TNT needs to survive without him and good thing that they manage to escape that game as Converge manage to force the game into OT. I was thinking to place some spare for the handicap but I doubt them since RHJ is playing, sorry missed but that's gambling hahaha..


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November 12, 2023, 01:33:27 AM
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Castro seems needs to adjust and go back in time, without Mickey and Roger TNT is really needed him, Oftana can't do it alone plus the fact that earlier even RHJ is back he needed to rest late in the third quarter not sure because any injury but TNT needs to survive without him and good thing that they manage to escape that game as Converge manage to force the game into OT. I was thinking to place some spare for the handicap but I doubt them since RHJ is playing, sorry missed but that's gambling hahaha..

TNT needs the young guys to step up; Castro can't be playing heavy minutes considering his age. He isn't LeBron, so there's a likelihood that he'll get injured, and TNT will miss a reliable point guard. They are still in the running this season; they secured their first win. They just have to play smarter next time and manage Castro's minutes effectively. Additionally, RHJ needs to step up his game.

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November 12, 2023, 03:06:34 AM
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Castro seems needs to adjust and go back in time, without Mickey and Roger TNT is really needed him, Oftana can't do it alone plus the fact that earlier even RHJ is back he needed to rest late in the third quarter not sure because any injury but TNT needs to survive without him and good thing that they manage to escape that game as Converge manage to force the game into OT. I was thinking to place some spare for the handicap but I doubt them since RHJ is playing, sorry missed but that's gambling hahaha..

TNT needs the young guys to step up; Castro can't be playing heavy minutes considering his age. He isn't LeBron, so there's a likelihood that he'll get injured, and TNT will miss a reliable point guard. They are still in the running this season; they secured their first win. They just have to play smarter next time and manage Castro's minutes effectively. Additionally, RHJ needs to step up his game.

They don't have as many scorers compared to SMB and Ginebra, so if Castro can maintain his consistency, perhaps in the next game, they'll also need contributions from their veterans like Ryan Reyes, Khobuntin, and Heruela. Oftana is expected to remain consistent, having done so twice in a row already. With the team undermanned, missing Pogoy and now with Williams reportedly out fo the team, they need to make the most of what they have.

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November 13, 2023, 12:51:47 PM
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Castro seems needs to adjust and go back in time, without Mickey and Roger TNT is really needed him, Oftana can't do it alone plus the fact that earlier even RHJ is back he needed to rest late in the third quarter not sure because any injury but TNT needs to survive without him and good thing that they manage to escape that game as Converge manage to force the game into OT. I was thinking to place some spare for the handicap but I doubt them since RHJ is playing, sorry missed but that's gambling hahaha..

TNT needs the young guys to step up; Castro can't be playing heavy minutes considering his age. He isn't LeBron, so there's a likelihood that he'll get injured, and TNT will miss a reliable point guard. They are still in the running this season; they secured their first win. They just have to play smarter next time and manage Castro's minutes effectively. Additionally, RHJ needs to step up his game.

They don't have as many scorers compared to SMB and Ginebra, so if Castro can maintain his consistency, perhaps in the next game, they'll also need contributions from their veterans like Ryan Reyes, Khobuntin, and Heruela. Oftana is expected to remain consistent, having done so twice in a row already. With the team undermanned, missing Pogoy and now with Williams reportedly out fo the team, they need to make the most of what they have.

TNT was supposed to be a championship team, especially with JB out and RHJ proving to be a good import with excellent chemistry with his teammates. However, it's unfortunate that Pogoy and Williams are out—Williams permanently, as confirmed by recent news.

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November 14, 2023, 11:13:46 AM
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TnT almost loss this game but by the help of individual they finish the match lead up to 3 point which is 1 game position. But anyways they show us a good matchup. Also  Jason Castro doing very well even in his age he can still  assist to carry thier team into victory and now they have already 1-1 standing which pretty good win today to tie thier records. Tomorrow Northport vs Rain or shine and the second game is Phoenix vs magnolia maybe I'll go for Rain or shine and magnolia tomorrow.


Jason Castro is incredibly valuable during crunch time, making it crucial to manage his minutes effectively to avoid wearing him down throughout the game. The younger players need to step up, be more aggressive, and prioritize solid defense. Even if they trail, keeping the margin close is important since Castro can be a game-changer in the second half. This seems like the right strategy, especially considering they don't have many scorers on the team.

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November 14, 2023, 11:16:43 AM
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Castro seems needs to adjust and go back in time, without Mickey and Roger TNT is really needed him, Oftana can't do it alone plus the fact that earlier even RHJ is back he needed to rest late in the third quarter not sure because any injury but TNT needs to survive without him and good thing that they manage to escape that game as Converge manage to force the game into OT. I was thinking to place some spare for the handicap but I doubt them since RHJ is playing, sorry missed but that's gambling hahaha..

TNT needs the young guys to step up; Castro can't be playing heavy minutes considering his age. He isn't LeBron, so there's a likelihood that he'll get injured, and TNT will miss a reliable point guard. They are still in the running this season; they secured their first win. They just have to play smarter next time and manage Castro's minutes effectively. Additionally, RHJ needs to step up his game.

They don't have as many scorers compared to SMB and Ginebra, so if Castro can maintain his consistency, perhaps in the next game, they'll also need contributions from their veterans like Ryan Reyes, Khobuntin, and Heruela. Oftana is expected to remain consistent, having done so twice in a row already. With the team undermanned, missing Pogoy and now with Williams reportedly out fo the team, they need to make the most of what they have.

They need to use whoever is available to support RHJ, with Oftana and Castro plus the big men who can help they still have that competitve squad who can actually win a game, TNT is TNT we know how they play together and they are not doing anything to reason out with how they play the game, they will play whoever their opponents and they show up the way they always use to, no further reasoning but to maximize and try to win each games that they will compete.

Though same with your argument, they don't have that much scorers compared with SMB and Ginebra but with pride for being the last season champ, I think it will help them to try harder.

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November 14, 2023, 11:29:05 AM
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They need to use whoever is available to support RHJ, with Oftana and Castro plus the big men who can help they still have that competitve squad who can actually win a game, TNT is TNT we know how they play together and they are not doing anything to reason out with how they play the game, they will play whoever their opponents and they show up the way they always use to, no further reasoning but to maximize and try to win each games that they will compete.

Though same with your argument, they don't have that much scorers compared with SMB and Ginebra but with pride for being the last season champ, I think it will help them to try harder.

As long as they maintain a healthy import, TNT will stay competitive. However, it's undeniable that their championship odds are diminished due to the absence of two key players. While Castro is undoubtedly skilled, we can't rely on him to carry the team consistently. Additionally, RHJ hasn't fully proven himself this conference, and personally, I'm not satisfied with his production in his debut.

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November 14, 2023, 12:36:55 PM
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They need to use whoever is available to support RHJ, with Oftana and Castro plus the big men who can help they still have that competitve squad who can actually win a game, TNT is TNT we know how they play together and they are not doing anything to reason out with how they play the game, they will play whoever their opponents and they show up the way they always use to, no further reasoning but to maximize and try to win each games that they will compete.

Though same with your argument, they don't have that much scorers compared with SMB and Ginebra but with pride for being the last season champ, I think it will help them to try harder.

As long as they maintain a healthy import, TNT will stay competitive. However, it's undeniable that their championship odds are diminished due to the absence of two key players. While Castro is undoubtedly skilled, we can't rely on him to carry the team consistently. Additionally, RHJ hasn't fully proven himself this conference, and personally, I'm not satisfied with his production in his debut.

That's the most important thing they have to maintain, although they can get a replacement import if that will happen but RHJ is a different breed, I mean he already proven himself many times not only in the PBA but also during the FIBA WC and Asian Cup where his team play against Gilas Pilipinas. As of now, it's too early to conclude who the best import is, and I'm sure RJH will try to catch up with the statistics to have a good chance in winning the best import award.
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November 14, 2023, 01:40:01 PM
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They need to use whoever is available to support RHJ, with Oftana and Castro plus the big men who can help they still have that competitve squad who can actually win a game, TNT is TNT we know how they play together and they are not doing anything to reason out with how they play the game, they will play whoever their opponents and they show up the way they always use to, no further reasoning but to maximize and try to win each games that they will compete.

Though same with your argument, they don't have that much scorers compared with SMB and Ginebra but with pride for being the last season champ, I think it will help them to try harder.

As long as they maintain a healthy import, TNT will stay competitive. However, it's undeniable that their championship odds are diminished due to the absence of two key players. While Castro is undoubtedly skilled, we can't rely on him to carry the team consistently. Additionally, RHJ hasn't fully proven himself this conference, and personally, I'm not satisfied with his production in his debut.

Like what I've mentioned, RHJ is something that they still get aside from the locals, they can maximize him even though the first debut did not come out as what we or most fans expected but adjustments will be done for sure, he is already comfortable with his teammates and he will utilize whoever is with him and will compete no matter what.

It's exciting to see how TNT will try to hold their pride and continue to bring that balance to the league even without their key players.

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November 14, 2023, 02:01:28 PM
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They need to use whoever is available to support RHJ, with Oftana and Castro plus the big men who can help they still have that competitve squad who can actually win a game, TNT is TNT we know how they play together and they are not doing anything to reason out with how they play the game, they will play whoever their opponents and they show up the way they always use to, no further reasoning but to maximize and try to win each games that they will compete.

Though same with your argument, they don't have that much scorers compared with SMB and Ginebra but with pride for being the last season champ, I think it will help them to try harder.

As long as they maintain a healthy import, TNT will stay competitive. However, it's undeniable that their championship odds are diminished due to the absence of two key players. While Castro is undoubtedly skilled, we can't rely on him to carry the team consistently. Additionally, RHJ hasn't fully proven himself this conference, and personally, I'm not satisfied with his production in his debut.

Like what I've mentioned, RHJ is something that they still get aside from the locals, they can maximize him even though the first debut did not come out as what we or most fans expected but adjustments will be done for sure, he is already comfortable with his teammates and he will utilize whoever is with him and will compete no matter what.
Fingers crossed for the team's success this season! They might not be the top contenders for the Finals, so pulling off wins against powerhouse teams like SMB, Ginebra, and the lately impressive Magnolia would be a pleasant surprise.

By the way, I had my money on Phoenix because I was hyped up by Ricci boy Rivero, but, well, I lost that bet. Turns out, he didn't quite deliver in that game against the Magnolia.


It's exciting to see how TNT will try to hold their pride and continue to bring that balance to the league even without their key players.

All I can say is " I HOPE THEY'LL DELIVER".....




Moving on, we have two games tomorrow but the most exciting is the SMB debut in the season, we will see JMF once again, the ABAY!

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November 15, 2023, 11:50:22 AM
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SMB vs. NLEX is coming up. As per my sportsbook, SMB is -6.5, which I find still reasonable since they are a strong team. However, I would not gamble on that; instead, I would go for the over in this game, which is over 210.5.

By the way, the first game is already over. Blackwater got their second loss against DYIP, who's the underdog in this game.

Good luck with your bets, guys. Let's enjoy the last game of the day.

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November 15, 2023, 11:58:07 AM
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Moving on, we have two games tomorrow but the most exciting is the SMB debut in the season, we will see JMF once again, the ABAY!

This game is what i'm waiting to see if indeed Junemar Fajardo will dominate once again in the PBA with all the good showings he has on the FIBA and ASIAN games campaign. I know that this first game is getting to know each other as they have not played together as a team for a long time but i'm still hopeful that they will defeat NLEX and cover the spread.

SMB Beermen -6.5 @1.84 vs NLEX

On for that 8th MVP trophy JMF15 hehe.


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November 15, 2023, 12:05:39 PM
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Moving on, we have two games tomorrow but the most exciting is the SMB debut in the season, we will see JMF once again, the ABAY!

This game is what i'm waiting to see if indeed Junemar Fajardo will dominate once again in the PBA with all the good showings he has on the FIBA and ASIAN games campaign. I know that this first game is getting to know each other as they have not played together as a team for a long time but i'm still hopeful that they will defeat NLEX and cover the spread.

SMB Beermen -6.5 @1.84 vs NLEX

On for that 8th MVP trophy JMF15 hehe.



I'm very vocal in terms of  being an avid fan of SMB, not  just JMF I'm also excited to see TR7 and if I read it right TRX is also been activated as part of the 15 man players of SMB, might be interesting to see if how SMB will play today, though what you mentioned can also be a factor even they are doing practices, it will be a different venue once you are already competing with another team.

JMF 8th MVP is not by far, with how he performed during the World Cup and Asian games translating that same intensity inside the PBA, and the dominating chances are really high.

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November 15, 2023, 01:04:28 PM
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Moving on, we have two games tomorrow but the most exciting is the SMB debut in the season, we will see JMF once again, the ABAY!

This game is what i'm waiting to see if indeed Junemar Fajardo will dominate once again in the PBA with all the good showings he has on the FIBA and ASIAN games campaign. I know that this first game is getting to know each other as they have not played together as a team for a long time but i'm still hopeful that they will defeat NLEX and cover the spread.

SMB Beermen -6.5 @1.84 vs NLEX

On for that 8th MVP trophy JMF15 hehe.



I'm very vocal in terms of  being an avid fan of SMB, not  just JMF I'm also excited to see TR7 and if I read it right TRX is also been activated as part of the 15 man players of SMB, might be interesting to see if how SMB will play today, though what you mentioned can also be a factor even they are doing practices, it will be a different venue once you are already competing with another team.

JMF 8th MVP is not by far, with how he performed during the World Cup and Asian games translating that same intensity inside the PBA, and the dominating chances are really high.

Speaking of Terrence Romeo, wow, he's hot in the first half with 19 points and have not missed from the rainbow country, 4 out of 4.

Seems like we will not see TRX in this game because that guard rotation of SMB is too deep and one thing i have observed with the plays of Jeron Teng thus far, not deserving of the max contract that he asked hehe.

Junemar Fajardo seems quite but still effective downlow and giving Robinson some hard time scoring in the paint.

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Speaking of Terrence Romeo, wow, he's hot in the first half with 19 points and have not missed from the rainbow country, 4 out of 4.


SMB will win this game easy, Romeo at the first half already made a huge contribution and it seems like he is now fully healthy, the TR47 is back!

So without JB for Ginebra, this team is really the team to beat, if NLEX would not be able to come back in the 2nd half, I'm afraid that SMB will win by a huge margin and the spread of -6.5 will be easily covered. 55% from 3 point line so far for SMB in the first half, let's see if Romeo would continue his hot shooting, you know it's hard to stop him once he build his confidence as he is a streaky shooter.

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What a game! I didn't expect that NLEX would be able to come back in the second half and win the game in OT.

Romeo was hot in the first half, but in the second half, he was pretty limited, although he scored some go-ahead baskets when needed with only seconds left. However, Rosales ruined his night with his cold-blooded 3-point shot that brought the game into overtime.

JMF was able to survive the game despite already having five fouls with minutes left in the fourth quarter. Unfortunately, SMB was not able to capitalize on their attack in the OT, despite the NLEX import being already tired. It was a very entertaining game overall, but if you bet on SMB, that would be a heartbreak.

Imagine, they were up as high as 19 points in this game and still lost, not only that, they got tired more as they played extra minutes. Not a good debut for them after a long rest.
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