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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24.8%)
Real Madrid - 78 (66.7%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.9%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.9%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.8%)
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November 01, 2020, 10:18:38 AM
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Barcelona now looks like Arsenal or Manchester United. They get lost in their strategies and get big failures on the pitch, leagues, transfers. They spent too much money for transfers but their results on leagues (national League or Champions League) are very poor.

Barcelona in few seasons recently are very unstable and weak to attacks of opponents. They can get big wins but not too long later will get their fans very disappointed with big losses. They are all not good, and stable for long runs (in leagues or tournaments). The time of Messi is ending and Koeman or Barcelona can not rely on him to rebuild the team.

If they win a title, it might be a last one for this generation of players. AC Milan got their last trophy with Ibra but they only slipped down till the return of Ibra in second half of last season.

Another bad news from FC Barcelona. We all know about their tense financial situation but it appears that they now have to force massive cuts to their players wages otherwise the whole club could go bankrupt. Source

Crazy to see what's going on at Barca right now. I thought that after Bartomeu left, the club would finally stop to generate bad headlines but it looks like the problems go much deeper. It could really be like you said and their sporting success fades more and more in the next years (especially once Messi is gone).
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November 01, 2020, 10:20:41 AM
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Could this be the downfall of FC Barcelona, the quality of players has drastically dropped, it's management board set for a planned resignation and they've been performing rather poorly at the games. Imagine how Alaves managed to hold them down to a 1-1 draw with Deportivo Alaves having just 10 men on the pitch. The red card seemed not to make a lot of difference though, the final minutes of the game was tensed, lots of shots and a lot was on target but, Fernando Pacheco had all his net in check.

Real Madrid seems to be having a pretty much go in the league, winning yesterdays game R. Madrid 4-1 SD Huesca and now tops the league with 8 points clear from FC Barcelona and 2 points clear from Real sociedad at second place. FCB really needs to start winning matches.
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November 01, 2020, 11:14:42 AM
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There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.

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November 01, 2020, 11:34:48 AM
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I also never understood why Barcelona appointed that coach Koeman. He has only failed all the clubs where he has coached. Were better alternatives.
First step must be to get rid of Griezmann. He is not even a shine of the player that was so successful for Atletico Madrid.

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November 01, 2020, 11:53:41 AM
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Could this be the downfall of FC Barcelona, the quality of players has drastically dropped, it's management board set for a planned resignation and they've been performing rather poorly at the games. Imagine how Alaves managed to hold them down to a 1-1 draw with Deportivo Alaves having just 10 men on the pitch. The red card seemed not to make a lot of difference though, the final minutes of the game was tensed, lots of shots and a lot was on target but, Fernando Pacheco had all his net in check.

Real Madrid seems to be having a pretty much go in the league, winning yesterdays game R. Madrid 4-1 SD Huesca and now tops the league with 8 points clear from FC Barcelona and 2 points clear from Real sociedad at second place. FCB really needs to start winning matches.

I was also speechless seeing Barcelona's poor performance, Barcelona should have won against Alaves, especially when Alaves got a red card.
Like Barcelona players have experienced a decline in quality, I even doubt that this season Barcelona can enter the top 3. Very different from
Real Madrid's very convincing appearance. Now Barcelona is ranked 12, with the last 5 matches in La Liga only managed to win one. It's the
start of a very bad season for Barcelona.

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November 01, 2020, 12:33:06 PM
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[not so] fun fact [for Barca fans] : In the last 4 years, Alaves have never lost a home game after scoring the 1-0. Source
huh, Alaves have it pretty easy at home, they just need to go all-out attack in the first half of every match, score and then they're pretty much garanteed a good result LOL

anyhow, three more matches today, but i'll keep my eyes on Betis - Elche. The former are going through a rough patch right now (1W in 5 matches), they'll face newly promoted side Elche who are unbeaten in the last 4 matches. Still, i'll back the Green-and-Whites today, this is probably the most winnable match they've had in the last month in terms of quality of quality of squad, players, etc of the opposing team...so surely the 39 years old legend Joaquin got the team motivated as hell to get the 3 pts, no? go, warriors!


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November 01, 2020, 12:51:00 PM
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One little question,

If I'm not wrong, Spain will go into lockdown tonight. How will it affect the Liga? In a first moment, it seems that displacements will be allowed for work, so players will be able to travel and play, but what happens if in a few weeks/months the measures toughen? Will the Liga be suspended?

And on the other hand, the stadiums are empty, how long do you think some teams can stand with the subsequent decrease of income?
the teams go first of all to reduce the salaries of the players and club employees, do not make transfers. plus some of the club's payroll was unloaded by selling players with a big paycheck. I think they will continue to play games, but there will be tight control of the players' health.

yeah, and one should count on the fact that most of income is from TV rights, it is not from full stadiums, so this income will continue, especially now when they play all matches at different time, so that one can watch all matches without interruption, this will enlarge TV rights check for many clubs, and provide steady revenue for them
on the other hand, they can always reduce salaries to their players, as all other businesses do for their employees

That's right, but income from TV rights is especially high from bars and clubs and many will have to close their doors or, at least, reduce the capacity by at least a %50, so it's no longer profitable the ROI for them if they have to pay these rights.

Rights from particulars will keep on giving high income, but there will be a loss for them, anyway.

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November 01, 2020, 12:57:36 PM
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So far so good Real Madrid won with 4 goals, ATM just won too with 3 goals. We will see if Barcelona will win its game against Alaves as expected or not!
I should have followed your advice on Atlético Madrid! I bet on the draw and that's the only game I missed! I was not sure they were going to win again but I was wrong... and lost a nice profit. Next time!

Seriously, this is our worst start since 2002 and that wasn't even the season I remember the most for being shitty, but if we have to force ourselves to fight back and only to get one point? Yes, I know it's Alaves at home and they are sometimes our bogey team but when you give away a goal like we did, impossible to get the confidence unshaken.

And yeah both Madrid teams profit.

@slaman29 yesterday I was expecting Real Madrid to lose their match, but they surprised me by winning it, and on the other hand I believed that Barcelona would easily win their match, however it looks like their poor form continues. Furthermore if the results don’t improve for Barcelona then Koeman will be facing the sack, as the presidential candidate Victor has made it clear that he wants Pep or Xavi to coach Barcelona.

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https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2020/11/1/21544167/fc-barcelona-news-1-november-2020-barca-held-by-alaves-koeman-worried-by-start

https://www.football-espana.net/2020/10/30/barcelona-presidential-hopeful-victor-font-wants-man-city-boss-pep-guardiola-to-return

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12448734/barcelona-koeman-sack-xavi-font-bartomeu/
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November 01, 2020, 01:34:32 PM
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[Still, i'll back the Green-and-Whites today, this is probably the most winnable match they've had in the last month in terms of quality of quality of squad, players, etc of the opposing team...\

Look like your decision to fight with Betis is the right decision, 27" Tello add another goal for Betis and now leading 2 - 0. From the shots data, till 30" Elche still failed to makes any shot. Elche need to do something for their attacking proccess. If not, they will be more hard to create a goal on the 2nd half. In other side, Betis very possible to create another goal on the 2nd half or maybe before first half ended.

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November 01, 2020, 02:24:00 PM
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There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.

I agree with you, Barcelona needs drastic change. Taking about performance definitely teams are getting worst which the board and coach didn't want to admit, yet the outcome are demonstrating so now. This is what you can expect when our coach Koeman doesn't rely on our most ideal players in the field. However, The players need more chemistry because they’re not linking up!

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November 01, 2020, 02:48:31 PM
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It was terrible to see that barcelona could not even defeat 10 man from their opponent. it was with 30 minutes to play, you expect at least a win for them.
they never should have let go suarez. and now they already 6 points behind real madrid.

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November 01, 2020, 04:03:22 PM
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Barcelona needs Ter Stegen more than Messi at the moment. Barcelona's defense never played well and Stegen made up for the shortcomings with his game.
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November 01, 2020, 06:15:09 PM
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Alaves 1-1 Barcelona and 6 minutes left in the game. The problem is Barcelona playing vs 10 players for 30 minutes and the result is still a draw.. Magnificent performance Undecided
It's sad I think they are still like Real Madrid will dominate the league this season. Although the score ended in a draw, Alves played with ten players, since the 62nd minute, after Jota received a second yellow card, unfortunately the peacocks could not take advantage of it. Although the season is still running at the beginning, they are eight points behind the top of the standings. If it continues like this, Barca are ready to lose their favorite team to win the league.
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November 01, 2020, 09:09:29 PM
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There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.
You are saying this like it is a joke but it has been a while like that. I mean sure it is technically not like that and as we have seen from the last president if you do not do what Messi says you have that right, he sent Suarez away, so you can actually do what you want but if you do not get great results that mistake of going against Messi will be end of your job. Which is why Messi has been the owner and everything of Barcelona for a while now.

However even if it hurts the team right now or not, Messi being everything to this club makes sense, this is the same person that took Barcelona from a regular good team into sextuple in a season type of team, he brought in sooooo many cups and I think he deserves to have this much influence over the team he brought in so much.
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November 01, 2020, 09:15:30 PM
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There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.


I can help but wonder what would have happened right now, If have Messi had been allowed to leave Barcelona during the summer window.

So far so good Real Madrid won with 4 goals, ATM just won too with 3 goals. We will see if Barcelona will win its game against Alaves as expected or not!
I should have followed your advice on Atlético Madrid! I bet on the draw and that's the only game I missed! I was not sure they were going to win again but I was wrong... and lost a nice profit. Next time!

Seriously, this is our worst start since 2002 and that wasn't even the season I remember the most for being shitty, but if we have to force ourselves to fight back and only to get one point? Yes, I know it's Alaves at home and they are sometimes our bogey team but when you give away a goal like we did, impossible to get the confidence unshaken.

And yeah both Madrid teams profit.

@slaman29 yesterday I was expecting Real Madrid to lose their match, but they surprised me by winning it, and on the other hand I believed that Barcelona would easily win their match, however it looks like their poor form continues. Furthermore if the results don’t improve for Barcelona then Koeman will be facing the sack, as the presidential candidate Victor has made it clear that he wants Pep or Xavi to coach Barcelona.

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https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2020/11/1/21544167/fc-barcelona-news-1-november-2020-barca-held-by-alaves-koeman-worried-by-start

https://www.football-espana.net/2020/10/30/barcelona-presidential-hopeful-victor-font-wants-man-city-boss-pep-guardiola-to-return

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12448734/barcelona-koeman-sack-xavi-font-bartomeu/

I agree with having Pep back, but not Xavi... Xavi wouldn't do any better than Koeman is doing right now, but with Pep  I would expect a new team construction, which is the only thing Barca needs right now.

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November 01, 2020, 10:06:15 PM
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There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.
The poor guy is gonna crack. Wonder know what he was thinking about when he shot the referee. Without forgetting that he is forced to stay with players that many of them forgot how to play football correctly. The goalie nooby mistake cost them the game literally and that Fati opportunity shouldn't be missed too but it happens...

Alaves 1-1 Barcelona and 6 minutes left in the game. The problem is Barcelona playing vs 10 players for 30 minutes and the result is still a draw.. Magnificent performance Undecided
It's sad I think they are still like Real Madrid will dominate the league this season. Although the score ended in a draw, Alves played with ten players, since the 62nd minute, after Jota received a second yellow card, unfortunately the peacocks could not take advantage of it. Although the season is still running at the beginning, they are eight points behind the top of the standings. If it continues like this, Barca are ready to lose their favorite team to win the league.
I don't know but I feel ATM can do something in La Liga this season. Simeone shouldn't miss that opportunity seriously! Real isn't at its best form and Barcelona struggling to win. I would say it is now or "never" Roll Eyes

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November 01, 2020, 11:58:56 PM
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Even if I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I'm speechless to see the performance of Barcelona lately. What's happening with Barcelona? They never won in the last 4 matches in La Liga and stucked in the 12th position. I've seen the La Liga table for more than 15 years (almost 20 years), but I never saw the worse performance than today. I assume Barcelona needs something new for their new spirit. Maybe a new president, new coach, new strategy, or etc. The point is to bring a new situation to motivate Barcelona players having a higher spirit to win again.



The picture above got from "google search" about the la Liga table.


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November 02, 2020, 02:40:34 AM
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Even if I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I'm speechless to see the performance of Barcelona lately. What's happening with Barcelona? They never won in the last 4 matches in La Liga and stucked in the 12th position. I've seen the La Liga table for more than 15 years (almost 20 years), but I never saw the worse performance than today. I assume Barcelona needs something new for their new spirit. Maybe a new president, new coach, new strategy, or etc. The point is to bring a new situation to motivate Barcelona players having a higher spirit to win again.



The picture above got from "google search" about the la Liga table.



Yeah, i heard something about this while watching the match. Barcelona has the worst start of the season, during first 5 matches from the last 15 years if i remember correctly. They had 2 tough matches against Real and Sevilla but to drop 5 points against teams like Getafe and Alaves is just unacceptable.
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Even if I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I'm speechless to see the performance of Barcelona lately. What's happening with Barcelona? They never won in the last 4 matches in La Liga and stucked in the 12th position. I've seen the La Liga table for more than 15 years (almost 20 years), but I never saw the worse performance than today. I assume Barcelona needs something new for their new spirit. Maybe a new president, new coach, new strategy, or etc. The point is to bring a new situation to motivate Barcelona players having a higher spirit to win again.



The picture above got from "google search" about the la Liga table.



it is a bad start, but i would not say that it is unexpected, i have already said that do not expect Barcelona to finish within top two, and would not count out the possibility for them to even be fourth at the end
their game is just too predictable, and we all know how they will play, they need some changes to do better, and that will happen throughout the season, for sure, but i am not sure that they could pick up enough to reach position two, title is reserved for Real this season
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Even if I'm a Real Madrid fan, but I'm speechless to see the performance of Barcelona lately. What's happening with Barcelona? They never won in the last 4 matches in La Liga and stucked in the 12th position. I've seen the La Liga table for more than 15 years (almost 20 years), but I never saw the worse performance than today. I assume Barcelona needs something new for their new spirit. Maybe a new president, new coach, new strategy, or etc. The point is to bring a new situation to motivate Barcelona players having a higher spirit to win again.



The picture above got from "google search" about the la Liga table.



it is a bad start, but i would not say that it is unexpected, i have already said that do not expect Barcelona to finish within top two, and would not count out the possibility for them to even be fourth at the end
their game is just too predictable, and we all know how they will play, they need some changes to do better, and that will happen throughout the season, for sure, but i am not sure that they could pick up enough to reach position two, title is reserved for Real this season

I don't think Barcelona have any chance to be in the top 3 in this season. They have to chance their game strategy. I think their lineup should also change. Messi and Grizmen are not doing well together. Koeman should be more concentrate on this. Grizmen miss many easy chances. It is totally unexpected from a good player. He has to working hard more.
If someone ask me, who is the best player in Barcelona right now except Messi? I would undoubtedly say it's Ousmane Dembele. I personally enjoy his gameplay much.

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