La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Naida_BR]

I think Barcelona needs big changes right now.
Barcelona has a crisis of results, and finance and management 
They urgently need better management and have to rely much more on their football academy and young players.
They also have to start preparing for the time after Messi.

Their defense is already shit. In a year or two all the players will get old. It's not a small crisis it's gonna be big in coming years. They have to straighten their financial position right now. They have quite few talents but they will also gonna take time to develop. It's a real challenge for Barcelona. I think they should buy some young players with good talent at a decent price and not focus on some players with heavy price tag like Neymar.

Their defense is going to need a lot of time to be built.
It cannot build overnight. They had always a leader in this line and now they don't.
It would be very difficult to cover this position - it won't be only if they buy Virgil Van Dijk!

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[LTU_btc]

Finally we know all teams which will play in promotion playoffs. Today, match which was delayed because positive Covid-19 tests between Deportivo and Fuenlabrada was played. Fuenlabrada wasted their chance and lost to Deportivo who will relegate to 3rd division.
So, Elches vs Zaragoza and Girona vs Almeria is semifinals. Personally, I would want to see Girona in La Liga, but Zaragoza also have good squad.

[perfect999]

I think there is a huge overreaction going around Barcelona, I understand that Messi, their 15 year professional veteran has been getting old and he will soon retire, if not next season maybe in 2-3 or maybe even 4 seasons but he WILL retire, and I get that they need an overhaul of their team to a newer version and they need to do it quickly before their team starts to suck badly and so forth.

However you do realize Barcelona is the team we are talking about right? If they put out a team just from la masia players they would still be top 5 in la liga and that is a team purely from their youth players, so maybe there shouldn't be this much reaction. In the end they will find a way to figure out a way to get more money and they will do that to buy much better and younger players.

[Lordhermes]

I think there is a huge overreaction going around Barcelona, I understand that Messi, their 15 year professional veteran has been getting old and he will soon retire, if not next season maybe in 2-3 or maybe even 4 seasons but he WILL retire, and I get that they need an overhaul of their team to a newer version and they need to do it quickly before their team starts to suck badly and so forth.

However you do realize Barcelona is the team we are talking about right? If they put out a team just from la masia players they would still be top 5 in la liga and that is a team purely from their youth players, so maybe there shouldn't be this much reaction. In the end they will find a way to figure out a way to get more money and they will do that to buy much better and younger players.

The issue with Barcelona players is that, all players centered on Messi as the main source of next step goal which is isn't right in the other hand,  Messi is getting older  in every new season making him loosing effectively on his style of play, Barcelona now needs a young coveted and talented players mainly in the defensive level, Gerald Pique  is weak side is starting to show gradually as Barça concedes goal in every matches played during this pandemic period. Their clashed with Napoli seems to be a great comeback on Barcelona next season in the laliga leagues games.

[kassex]

I think there is a huge overreaction going around Barcelona, I understand that Messi, their 15 year professional veteran has been getting old and he will soon retire, if not next season maybe in 2-3 or maybe even 4 seasons but he WILL retire, and I get that they need an overhaul of their team to a newer version and they need to do it quickly before their team starts to suck badly and so forth.

However you do realize Barcelona is the team we are talking about right? If they put out a team just from la masia players they would still be top 5 in la liga and that is a team purely from their youth players, so maybe there shouldn't be this much reaction. In the end they will find a way to figure out a way to get more money and they will do that to buy much better and younger players.

The issue with Barcelona players is that, all players centered on Messi as the main source of next step goal which is isn't right in the other hand,  Messi is getting older  in every new season making him loosing effectively on his style of play, Barcelona now needs a young coveted and talented players mainly in the defensive level, Gerald Pique  is weak side is starting to show gradually as Barça concedes goal in every matches played during this pandemic period. Their clashed with Napoli seems to be a great comeback on Barcelona next season in the laliga leagues games.

Barcelona's strength will be clearly visible in the game against Bayern. If the team plays with dignity, then there is hope for the next season. Otherwise, the team will be in deep crisis.

[Juggy777]

I think there is a huge overreaction going around Barcelona, I understand that Messi, their 15 year professional veteran has been getting old and he will soon retire, if not next season maybe in 2-3 or maybe even 4 seasons but he WILL retire, and I get that they need an overhaul of their team to a newer version and they need to do it quickly before their team starts to suck badly and so forth.

However you do realize Barcelona is the team we are talking about right? If they put out a team just from la masia players they would still be top 5 in la liga and that is a team purely from their youth players, so maybe there shouldn't be this much reaction. In the end they will find a way to figure out a way to get more money and they will do that to buy much better and younger players.

The issue with Barcelona players is that, all players centered on Messi as the main source of next step goal which is isn't right in the other hand,  Messi is getting older  in every new season making him loosing effectively on his style of play, Barcelona now needs a young coveted and talented players mainly in the defensive level, Gerald Pique  is weak side is starting to show gradually as Barça concedes goal in every matches played during this pandemic period. Their clashed with Napoli seems to be a great comeback on Barcelona next season in the laliga leagues games.

Barcelona's strength will be clearly visible in the game against Bayern. If the team plays with dignity, then there is hope for the next season. Otherwise, the team will be in deep crisis.

@Lordhermes if you look at the current Barcelona squad you’ll realise that they don’t have any big player other than Messi that can get them those winning goals, and I know some will cite Grizeman but he has completely flopped this season. Also @kassex in my personal opinion Barcelona will be thrashed by Bayern in their upcoming clash, and I’m expecting Bayern to score minimum three goals as Barcelona player’s won’t be able to contain Bayern's attacking player’s.

Source:

https://www.skysports.com/football/bay-munich-vs-chelsea/report/421730 (Why I expect Bayern to defeat Barcelona by a huge margin)

https://www.skysports.com/football/barcelona-vs-napoli/report/421729 (Once again Messi leading them to a victory)

https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/griezmann-losing-the-fight-to-prove-hes-not-just-another/2djvajgbpug71ky7ijimjrc5i

[Daniel91]

I think Barcelona needs big changes right now.
Barcelona has a crisis of results, and finance and management 
They urgently need better management and have to rely much more on their football academy and young players.
They also have to start preparing for the time after Messi.

Their defense is already shit. In a year or two all the players will get old. It's not a small crisis it's gonna be big in coming years. They have to straighten their financial position right now. They have quite few talents but they will also gonna take time to develop. It's a real challenge for Barcelona. I think they should buy some young players with good talent at a decent price and not focus on some players with heavy price tag like Neymar.

You forget that this is Barcelona, a club that is used to winning trophies every year 
There is no chance that Barcelona could accept such an idea, get rid of old and expensive players and focus on young talents.
If anyone tried that, they would not lead Barcelona within a year.
In Barcelona, they always ultimately looking for results and victories, so they have no choice but to spend money (which they don't currently have) on new and expensive players.

[jostorres]

I do not understand why Pep never gets any attention, City is banned from champions league for at least 2 more years, he could just rip out his contract and go to Barcelona, whatever the cost is Barcelona could pay him that much anyway, this is the dude that had the sextuple with this team, that is unique and I do not remember any team that did that in recent memory, not saying he will do that once again but if anyone can fix this team and make them good once again, it is definitely Pep.

All of this "I gave my word to City and signed a contract, I will not leave just because they got a penalty" BS is useless, it was City management that did something against the rules and that is why Pep is not guilty if he leaves, on contrary he has that right to leave even more now.

[snipie]

I do not understand why Pep never gets any attention, City is banned from champions league for at least 2 more years, he could just rip out his contract and go to Barcelona, whatever the cost is Barcelona could pay him that much anyway, this is the dude that had the sextuple with this team, that is unique and I do not remember any team that did that in recent memory, not saying he will do that once again but if anyone can fix this team and make them good once again, it is definitely Pep.

All of this "I gave my word to City and signed a contract, I will not leave just because they got a penalty" BS is useless, it was City management that did something against the rules and that is why Pep is not guilty if he leaves, on contrary he has that right to leave even more now.

Maybe because he is smart enough to know (or reassured) that the ban will be lifted? and because Barcelona is crap right now with many problems and no cash?
I think he made the best choice and it will be fantastic if he win the CL this season!

[logfiles]

I do not understand why Pep never gets any attention, City is banned from champions league for at least 2 more years, he could just rip out his contract and go to Barcelona, whatever the cost is Barcelona could pay him that much anyway, this is the dude that had the sextuple with this team, that is unique and I do not remember any team that did that in recent memory, not saying he will do that once again but if anyone can fix this team and make them good once again, it is definitely Pep.

Wait a minute... Maybe I am behind the news or you are behind the news. Wasn't Manchseter City's 2-year Champion's League ban lifted?

The reason he's not on the radar could be because he just doesn't want to go back to Barcelona nonetheless.

[Shasha80]

I think Barcelona needs big changes right now.
Barcelona has a crisis of results, and finance and management 
They urgently need better management and have to rely much more on their football academy and young players.
They also have to start preparing for the time after Messi.

Their defense is already shit. In a year or two all the players will get old. It's not a small crisis it's gonna be big in coming years. They have to straighten their financial position right now. They have quite few talents but they will also gonna take time to develop. It's a real challenge for Barcelona. I think they should buy some young players with good talent at a decent price and not focus on some players with heavy price tag like Neymar.

You forget that this is Barcelona, a club that is used to winning trophies every year 
There is no chance that Barcelona could accept such an idea, get rid of old and expensive players and focus on young talents.
If anyone tried that, they would not lead Barcelona within a year.
In Barcelona, they always ultimately looking for results and victories, so they have no choice but to spend money (which they don't currently have) on new and expensive players.

It's true that Barcelona is a team that always wins trophies every year. I'm sure Barcelona will make improvements next season,
is likely to replace coach Quique Setien if he fails to win the Champions League trophies. And sell some of their players, to be able
to purchased some expensive players. I see Barcelona's failure to win the La Liga trophies because of internal problems, not because
of the game they are bad. I'm sure next season Barcelona will win the La Liga trophies from Real Madrid.

[kawetsriyanto]

~if you look at the current Barcelona squad you’ll realise that they don’t have any big player other than Messi that can get them those winning goals, and I know some will cite Grizeman but he has completely flopped this season.~

Hey mate, do you forget Luis Suarez? Actually, they shouldn't have problem with strikers and midfielders, they have enough strong players there. Especially for strikers, they have Messi, Suarez, and Griezman. For me, they are more than enough to get the winning goals. The real problem is on defense line, Barca only has Pique as the stronger one, while Alba seems not quite strong as a defender and Umtiti still can't show his best performance.

[EdenHazard]

https://www.skysports.com/football/bay-munich-vs-chelsea/report/421730 (Why I expect Bayern to defeat Barcelona by a huge margin)

https://www.skysports.com/football/barcelona-vs-napoli/report/421729 (Once again Messi leading them to a victory)

With the current Barcelona transfer conditions which it's looks pretty bad on how they acquired players .. I'd say messi will stay carrying Barcelona next season and of course that's something that not really expected by the fans.

Still .. you can't underrate them , messi has proven everyone wrong with his magical touch a lot of times.
Even with his age that yeah he's not young anymore.
This is a nightmare.. something that unusual for Barcelona to always become a non favorite side thesedays.

[Naida_BR]

~if you look at the current Barcelona squad you’ll realise that they don’t have any big player other than Messi that can get them those winning goals, and I know some will cite Grizeman but he has completely flopped this season.~

Hey mate, do you forget Luis Suarez? Actually, they shouldn't have problem with strikers and midfielders, they have enough strong players there. Especially for strikers, they have Messi, Suarez, and Griezman. For me, they are more than enough to get the winning goals. The real problem is on defense line, Barca only has Pique as the stronger one, while Alba seems not quite strong as a defender and Umtiti still can't show his best performance.

Indeed, and on top of that they can sign good players in the attacking and midfield line.
There are plenty of good players out there that can play competitively in Barca and have an outstanding performance.
The real problem is in defense where they do not have a clear leader or a player that can be the one-man in the line like Puyol was in the past.

[Daniel91]

I think Barcelona needs big changes right now.
Barcelona has a crisis of results, and finance and management 
They urgently need better management and have to rely much more on their football academy and young players.
They also have to start preparing for the time after Messi.

Their defense is already shit. In a year or two all the players will get old. It's not a small crisis it's gonna be big in coming years. They have to straighten their financial position right now. They have quite few talents but they will also gonna take time to develop. It's a real challenge for Barcelona. I think they should buy some young players with good talent at a decent price and not focus on some players with heavy price tag like Neymar.

You forget that this is Barcelona, a club that is used to winning trophies every year 
There is no chance that Barcelona could accept such an idea, get rid of old and expensive players and focus on young talents.
If anyone tried that, they would not lead Barcelona within a year.
In Barcelona, they always ultimately looking for results and victories, so they have no choice but to spend money (which they don't currently have) on new and expensive players.

It's true that Barcelona is a team that always wins trophies every year. I'm sure Barcelona will make improvements next season,
is likely to replace coach Quique Setien if he fails to win the Champions League trophies. And sell some of their players, to be able
to purchased some expensive players. I see Barcelona's failure to win the La Liga trophies because of internal problems, not because
of the game they are bad. I'm sure next season Barcelona will win the La Liga trophies from Real Madrid.

I agree that Barcelona had a lot of internal problems this year that affected the results.
But I think the bigger problem is that Barcelona have not found the right replacements for Xavi and Iniesta so far and mostly everyone is waiting for what Messi will do in every game.
Barcelona has become a "one man show" and is too dependent on Messi and that is not good.
In many games tie Stegen has saved Barcelona and he is the only Barcelona player to have played at a top level this year, alongside Messi.
It turned out that this was not enough for top results and victories and Barcelona urgently needed a major overhaul.

[kassex]

Bayern has a coach who was able to convey his ideas to the players, and Barcelona has a coach who could not. Experience and desire alone cannot win the Champions League.

[cryptofrka]

Apparently, Ronald Koeman has been chosen as a new Barcelona manager.

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/ronald-koeman-barcelona-246943-246943
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1295342486861250560

Another gamble from Barcelona, his 2 previous jobs were Southampton and Everton and he was never in charge of a top team before.

He did really well in Euro qualifiers with Netherlands but it was in a really weak group. He did beat Germany though.

[Naida_BR]

Apparently, Ronald Koeman has been chosen as a new Barcelona manager.

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/ronald-koeman-barcelona-246943-246943
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1295342486861250560

Another gamble from Barcelona, his 2 previous jobs were Southampton and Everton and he was never in charge of a top team before.

He did really well in Euro qualifiers with Netherlands but it was in a really weak group. He did beat Germany though.

It is like Barcelona do not have or do not want to spend money in the coach position.
Koeman is a new risk for them and I don't think that he is going to be a good influencer to the players. Also, the manager should have connections with big players and I don't think that Koeman can provide that to Barca.

[kawetsriyanto]

It is like Barcelona do not have or do not want to spend money in the coach position.

I don't think it is the reason. How can a big club like Barcelona don't want to spend money on a coach? Coach has a big role and also the key for Barcelona FC to be successful or not in the next season. So, the reason should be another thing. I suspect Barcelona management may think Koeman is a typical coach who fits with Barcelona football style. Barcelona also probably has a good relationship with Koeman. However, whatever the reason, we should let Koeman show us what he can do. Don't be so pessimistic, mate!!

[-CryptoViking-]

Apparently, Ronald Koeman has been chosen as a new Barcelona manager.

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/ronald-koeman-barcelona-246943-246943
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1295342486861250560

Another gamble from Barcelona, his 2 previous jobs were Southampton and Everton and he was never in charge of a top team before.

He did really well in Euro qualifiers with Netherlands but it was in a really weak group. He did beat Germany though.

It is like Barcelona do not have or do not want to spend money in the coach position.
Koeman is a new risk for them and I don't think that he is going to be a good influencer to the players. Also, the manager should have connections with big players and I don't think that Koeman can provide that to Barca.

Koeman was an important player for Barcelona and a lot of people know him, he will be well received and accepted,which is a very important factor. This fact will surely buy him time and good grace to have space to work with the team and build new foundations.

He did good job so far in his coaching career and I think he is a natural and good choice for Barca.