La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Juggy777]

On November 21 I will watch the match Atletico vs Barcelona... Odds are almost the same - 2.7 and 2.6... I hope that Atletico can win this match and I will be able to win with them! I bet on winning Atletico!

The odds are so close cause it's quite difficult to pick one winner from this game, Barcelona usually win against Athletico, but the Barca of this season are not in the usual flying form we know them for, Athletico haven't been too great too, thing is this season, none of the big teams, both in Spain and England have really taken control in the league.

Imo, I'll call this match a draw, 1-1, we'll see though, but honestly I can't see either of this teams winning, they'll happily share the points between themselves.

I think it makes no sense for them to share points! Barca has to win to get up in the standings... Athletico has to win to top the standings table, and they can do it!Both Barca and Athletico have 7 games played... Athletico needs to win to break away a little from Real...
In my opinion, athletico has more motivation...

If you consider the two teams according to the points table, then Athletico Madrid is much better than Barcelona. But is that really so? There are many talented players in the Barcelona squad. Their coaches are also very experienced. In the last 5 matches between Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, ​​Barcelona has won 2, drawn 2 and Ahtletico Madrid has won 1.

I feel that it’s too early to wager on this match, because we will have to wait and see if there’re any injuries to the player’s, and also I would like to see how the player’s performed on the international duty, as it’ll give me a clue about their form before this match starts.

Lastly I feel that Messi will want to win the La Liga one last time, since it’s being speculated that he’ll join the premier league, and compete with Ronaldo once more who’s speculated to join Manchester United.

Source:

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-reactions-messi-vs-ronaldo-fans-are-dreaming-of-a-monster-manchester-derby-20201111

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[kawetsriyanto]

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I don't doubt his ability to score, I've watched Ramos playing football since I was a teenager. He is really good at attacking but often did stupid things in defense, especially in El Classico. For me, Central Defender isn't the best position for him, he is better to be a right-back. But unfortunately, Real Madrid has no option, no other people who are strong enough as Central Defender besides Varane. That makes the coach put him as a Central Defender.

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I don't doubt his ability to score, I've watched Ramos playing football since I was a teenager. He is really good at attacking but often did stupid things in defense, especially in El Classico. For me, Central Defender isn't the best position for him, he is better to be a right-back. But unfortunately, Real Madrid has no option, no other people who are strong enough as Central Defender besides Varane. That makes the coach put him as a Central Defender.

I think Ramos is more suitable in the defender position than right-back, actually Ramos's original position is right-back wing but when Mourinho became Madrid coach Ramos was shifted to defender. In fact, that position makes Ramos even better at attacking or defending even though Ramos often gives penalty advantages to opposing teams. But the fact is that since Ramos was shifted to defender he has managed to provide many titles for Madrid, especially when defending the champions league 3 times in a row. Only one shortcoming is Ramos, at this time his speed is starting to decrease, Madrid must look for players who have speed on the counter attack.

[Rabi3]

Are you serious? It's true Ramos makes mistakes sometimes but he's not a striker or center-forward, it would be a joke.

You should know it is not serious once I state to put him as a central forward. 
Of course, he is not a striker. That's why I think he shouldn't focus on making goals but how to make the defensive line be stronger.

Ramos can be called as an attacking-central defender and he is one of the most productive defenders in history of football (or the most productive). His attacking ability is from how he began his career as a swing-back.

i agree, they are the closest to win La liga now, they are the only one in the top three who has good quality players to keep their success streak La liga, it's just a matter of time to see Real sociedad and Villarreal go down a little bit, i also think Barcelona still got a chance to win La liga.

What are you talking about? The La Liga does not pass it first half of the season and it is very soon to say A Madrid is closest to win the La Liga. They can win at the ends but you can say about it with the last 10 or 5 matches of La Liga. At the moment it is the time to enjoy their matches and keep up your support for them and their players.

i know it's very soon to say that, and i already said Barcelona still got a chance, but depending of what we see currently, the closest is atletico madrid and i stand my ground.

[fullhdpixel]

I understand that Ahtletico Madrid played amazing so far and they are definitely a top 3 team in the league no doubt behind Barcelona and Real Madrid not just this year but in general so I agree that they have a better shot at beating Barcelona over any other team in the league except Real Madrid.

However we are talking about Barcelona here, they may have bad games but they are still Barcelona and they could win any game they play, I still think having close odds is not really a fair statement to Barça, I will wager on them (there is still a lot of time so I am waiting) but I feel like betting on them for this game could 2.6x your profit and that is really rare when you are wagering for Barcelona to win, usually they get a lot worse odds because they are the favorites in almost any game.

[3meek]

If you consider the two teams according to the points table, then Athletico Madrid is much better than Barcelona. But is that really so? There are many talented players in the Barcelona squad. Their coaches are also very experienced. In the last 5 matches between Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, ​​Barcelona has won 2, drawn 2 and Ahtletico Madrid has won 1.

In fact, the statistics of five matches is not much in favor of Barca... 2 winnings and 2 draws against one win of Athletico...
On the one hand Barca has won 50% more matches, and on the other hand, if Atletico wins, the statistics will be the same!
I consider this match in terms of the performance of the teams... Atletico has not yet had a defeat this season, and Barcelona plays terribly!

[Swordsoffreedom]

I understand that Ahtletico Madrid played amazing so far and they are definitely a top 3 team in the league no doubt behind Barcelona and Real Madrid not just this year but in general so I agree that they have a better shot at beating Barcelona over any other team in the league except Real Madrid.

However we are talking about Barcelona here, they may have bad games but they are still Barcelona and they could win any game they play, I still think having close odds is not really a fair statement to Barça, I will wager on them (there is still a lot of time so I am waiting) but I feel like betting on them for this game could 2.6x your profit and that is really rare when you are wagering for Barcelona to win, usually they get a lot worse odds because they are the favorites in almost any game.

Yeah, they have the ability to beat any team. So it is difficult to say who will win the Athletico Madrid vs Barcelona match. Athletic Madrid playing great form this season. They have won 5 of 7 matches. So far they have not lost a match. But they have yet to play against any big team. They have won against small team. Winning against Barcelona will not be so easy. Barcelona may be far behind the points table now, but there is no shortage of talented players in their squad. Everyone plays great.

[MusaMohamed]

I understand that Ahtletico Madrid played amazing so far and they are definitely a top 3 team in the league no doubt behind Barcelona and Real Madrid not just this year but in general so I agree that they have a better shot at beating Barcelona over any other team in the league except Real Madrid.

However we are talking about Barcelona here, they may have bad games but they are still Barcelona and they could win any game they play, I still think having close odds is not really a fair statement to Barça, I will wager on them (there is still a lot of time so I am waiting) but I feel like betting on them for this game could 2.6x your profit and that is really rare when you are wagering for Barcelona to win, usually they get a lot worse odds because they are the favorites in almost any game.

Atletico Madrid has good mentality, confidence and better form though Barca has bad mentality as a whole team and their form is bad. One of their key players, Messi had a bad international match for Arghentina and I think Messi will bring the bad mood back to Nou Camp. He won't be able to play well with this bad mood and this season Messi is not a another-class player we ever seen.

Atletico will win the match in my prediction.

[buwaytress]

As above, super bad decision to release Suarez, who now proves at Atletico he is still right up there with the very best. He and Messi could have done so much together still.

Anyway, thinking of him again, Uruguay is 4.20 to win at Sportsbet against Colombia. Call me nostalgic but Suarez will help his team win today, easy bet for me:)

Just as long as Atalanta firepower from Colombia are off form:P

Usual suspects ended up scoring, very nice odds if I say so myself. I somehow managed to completely overlook this game as 4/1 is terribly good odds for a team who still has such talent.

Looks like you were spot on on Atalanta strikers to also bomb in Colombia. Good news for Liverpool in UCL=)

[Daniel91]

The La Liga is in a very serious financial crisis according to what the The LaLiga president says in Marca today:
''Spanish football needs 490 million euros in order to finish the season''.

The question is how these financial problems of most clubs will affect the Spanish league and its quality?
Will clubs have to start selling players a lot to survive financially?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/11/14/5fafd71e46163f28778b456d.html

[Porfirii]

The La Liga is in a very serious financial crisis according to what the The LaLiga president says in Marca today:
''Spanish football needs 490 million euros in order to finish the season''.

The question is how these financial problems of most clubs will affect the Spanish league and its quality?
Will clubs have to start selling players a lot to survive financially?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/11/14/5fafd71e46163f28778b456d.html

Historically, almost every football team in La Liga have been in deficit (don't ask me how, as players, presidents and other staff earn millions). A crisis like this one we are suffering with the COVID-19 seems to be making this situation unsustainable.

I hope all this helps cleaning La Liga for the future. I don't know whether this is the same in all major leagues, maybe it is the way things work, but if no solution is given in the short term, deep changes will have to be done.

[RealMalatesta]

Suarez deal wasn't really a deal because he was a bad player now, it never was about money or how he was an old player they do not want or anything like that, it was all about president and Messi being at fight.

When president realized that he can't touch Messi and he can't do anything about how Messi had more power over the team and had more influence, president lashed out with Suarez and he realized he could send Messi's close friend away to another club by just not renewing contract and he could get away with something as simple as "he wanted too much money" and nobody could stop him after that.

So, it was all a power showdown between the president and Messi and nothing more. Obviously we know how that ended up with president now long gone and Messi still scoring goals almost every game.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Suarez deal wasn't really a deal because he was a bad player now, it never was about money or how he was an old player they do not want or anything like that, it was all about president and Messi being at fight.

When president realized that he can't touch Messi and he can't do anything about how Messi had more power over the team and had more influence, president lashed out with Suarez and he realized he could send Messi's close friend away to another club by just not renewing contract and he could get away with something as simple as "he wanted too much money" and nobody could stop him after that.

So, it was all a power showdown between the president and Messi and nothing more. Obviously we know how that ended up with president now long gone and Messi still scoring goals almost every game.

How do you call Suarez is a bad player? He played very well in Barcelona. He played 28 matches and scored 16 goals and 8 assists for Barcelona last season. He has played well all season. Such a great performance. If you watch Atletico Madrid's matches then you must know that Luis Suarez is playing great at Atletico Madrid too. He is in form and scoring goals. It is foolish to play Griezmann in his place. Griezmann is not yet able to perform as well as Luis Suarez.

[BITCOIN4X]

Suarez deal wasn't really a deal because he was a bad player now

I totally disagree if you say that Suarez is a bad player now. Did you know that Suarez has scored 5 goal and 1 assist for Atletico Madrid so far ?
I think Suarez is still pretty good if Barcelona management want to keep him in the team, but it look like the coach doesn't want him. To be honest, Luis Suarez was better than Griezmann at Barcelona and he still isn't done.

There are 2 people to blame for Suarez's departure this season from Barcelona and that is the president and the coach. They were utterly cruel as this could still be said to be an unacceptable humiliation on Suarez's side.

[MusaMohamed]

I totally disagree if you say that Suarez is a bad player now. Did you know that Suarez has scored 5 goal and 1 assist for Atletico Madrid so far ?
I think Suarez is still pretty good if Barcelona management want to keep him in the team, but it look like the coach doesn't want him. To be honest, Luis Suarez was better than Griezmann at Barcelona and he still isn't done.

Suarez scores and supports his teammates very impressively. Barcelona (Bartomeu and his team) made big faults to fire Suarez and sent him to the strong opponent, Atletico Madrid. They are brainless when they made the decision.

There are 2 people to blame for Suarez's departure this season from Barcelona and that is the president and the coach. They were utterly cruel as this could still be said to be an unacceptable humiliation on Suarez's side.

They are. What they wanted is try to put Messi into unofficial quarantine in Nou Camp. Suarez can be played as good substitute player for Barcelona but they did not care about it.

[Darkoth89]

The La Liga is in a very serious financial crisis according to what the The LaLiga president says in Marca today:
''Spanish football needs 490 million euros in order to finish the season''.

The question is how these financial problems of most clubs will affect the Spanish league and its quality?
Will clubs have to start selling players a lot to survive financially?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/11/14/5fafd71e46163f28778b456d.html

Holy shit. So it seems like Barca is just the tip of the iceberg?! How could the clubs ever let it get this far .... Sure, they are missing now all the ticket money because fans aren't allowed in the stadium, but teams from other leagues aren't in such a dire situation. For me it seems like the Covid crisis was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Spanish clubs already had massive amount of debts before the crisis and the whole system was deemed to fail one day or another.

[Furious 7]

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How do you call Suarez is a bad player? He played very well in Barcelona. He played 28 matches and scored 16 goals and 8 assists for Barcelona last season. He has played well all season. Such a great performance. If you watch Atletico Madrid's matches then you must know that Luis Suarez is playing great at Atletico Madrid too. He is in form and scoring goals. It is foolish to play Griezmann in his place. Griezmann is not yet able to perform as well as Luis Suarez.

I agree with you that Suarez is worthy of being said a great player at Barcelona is a great striker who is able to make a kick or header that is deadly against the opponent's goal even I consider Barcelona the worst performance this season because there is no Suarez.
Griezmann's style of play is still the same as Lionel Messi but still covered by Messi so that he does not develop even though the duet of his time you must know that the Madrid altetico are sharp attackers at ATMs.

[Daniel91]

The La Liga is in a very serious financial crisis according to what the The LaLiga president says in Marca today:
''Spanish football needs 490 million euros in order to finish the season''.

The question is how these financial problems of most clubs will affect the Spanish league and its quality?
Will clubs have to start selling players a lot to survive financially?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/11/14/5fafd71e46163f28778b456d.html

Holy shit. So it seems like Barca is just the tip of the iceberg?! How could the clubs ever let it get this far .... Sure, they are missing now all the ticket money because fans aren't allowed in the stadium, but teams from other leagues aren't in such a dire situation. For me it seems like the Covid crisis was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Spanish clubs already had massive amount of debts before the crisis and the whole system was deemed to fail one day or another.

It seems to me that this whole model of expensively paid players and high salaries was unsustainable in the long run and that the Covid crisis only accelerated the breakdown of such a failed management model in clubs.
Very difficult times are coming for Spanish clubs and Barcelona is currently in the most difficult situation.

[AakZaki]

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Will clubs have to start selling players a lot to survive financially?
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I think right now all the football associations and clubs are in financial trouble. Selling players is a partial solution of many ways to avoid a financial crisis. But remember this crisis is global, and I think clubs will also think twice about shopping (unless they have unlimited funds). In addition, the Federation can create new competition formats, for example, with a smaller number of matches.

[BITCOIN4X]

Very difficult times are coming for Spanish clubs and Barcelona is currently in the most difficult situation.

I think Barcelona still have the most realistic option at the moment if they really need money to finish the season and that is a reduction in the salaries of the player if they can't sell off the player. This option is at least helpful enough to save on club expenses for high paying player. During the pandemic, all European team lost a lot of revenue and the most prominent one was match day revenue. Player salaries need to be reduced and in my opinion this is an option worth considering.