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August 26, 2020, 06:48:54 AM
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It is time for Messi to leave this club.
He still has time for new opportunities in less competitive leagues.
There are so many teams that want him, Manchester City is the most popular but in my opinion he should go to Asia and in the Chinese League to spend his rest of his career there.
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August 26, 2020, 11:51:39 AM
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The club source said Messi, who has spent his entire career at Barca, informed the club about his desire to leave by sending a burofax, a service used in Spain to urgently dispatch a document that requires proof to third parties.
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Intense rumours, well apparently not only rumours, say that Messi has decided to leave Barca and informed the board about it. It says also there is an urgent meeting, the president decided to resign if Messi stays maybe?
It is too hot in Barca these days!
I am not sure that Messi really want to leave Barca or it is his pressure on Barca's president Bartomeu. If Messi want to leave the club, they should let him go and get a huge transfer fund back to rebuild their team. If Messi want to stay in Barca, the club has to do their best to keep him there. It depends on Messi's reaction. I don't say Messi is too important and he should be played on top of club's benefits and future growth but as I said if Messi leaves the club, it will be better for all.

It's probably just a power play by Messi to get both more money and the people he doesn't like out of the club. He's left it very late if he seriously wants to leave and the time frame he has to hand in his request has seemingly expired, though he's apparently trying to argue that because of the Coivd delays it should be extended. Both the PL and La Liga start on the 12th along with many other of the big European leagues starting around the same time so that's not long. What team can even afford him and who would be willing to buy him at such a late stage? I don't think many if any clubs would match what he's currently on at Barca so he's probably best just staying and I reckon he will, just on a bigger pay package and probably getting his own way behind the scenes. I really can't see him going to another Spanish team, so if he does leave it will likely only be teams like Man City, Bayern and PSG, but I'm sure those teams have already spent most of their budget on new players and they'll possibly have to break financial fair play rules if they swoop in for him, though maybe if he goes for free they can get around that. Man City aren't going to want to get in any more trouble with that though. He's almost certainly going to want the same if not more money than he's already on at Barca and a wage that will see him overtake Ronaldo as the highest paid.

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August 26, 2020, 12:27:42 PM
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There was a clause in his contract which allowed him to leave for free, if he informed the club of his desire before 10 June [source] which means until recently, he wasn't planning on leaving the club. If he wanted to leave at the end of the season, I don't see why he would wait for the clause to expire and then try to initiate the buyout clause which is around 700 million Euros

Because he loves the club and wanted to give his best to win another Champions League? That clause has also been made in times without corona and it should have expired after season end. I see this either as a final effort to change politics inside the club or maybe he really had enough and wants to leave. Barca has to find a way to let him go for "normal fee" nowhere near 700M after all he has done for them.

I see Man City as the only club that can be his destination. They have money for transfer and wages, a coach in very good relations with Messi and a competitive league. PSG has only money and nothing else to make him go there. I will not even mention other destinations since they are highly unlikely. Messi in City would bring huge influx from merchandise as well and it is a deal City has to try and make. 

I said it some months ago, that I wouldn't be surprised If Messi decides to leave the club this season, the crazy politics has been running for far too long in the within the club, that has been very evident with coaches and transfer choices.

But then I'm seeing this a very important step for Barcelona, I would have preferred Messi leaving on the best terms possible, as he's a legend and probably the most important image of the club till date, but then again he needs to leave for the benefit of both parties (as part of rebuilding the Barcelona team, the earlier the better, imo).

As for his destination, I was thinking Inter Milan due to the speculations that were circulating earlier this year, but Man City seem to be the most perfect place,  I'd agree with Trofo.

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August 26, 2020, 01:17:29 PM
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Determined to leave even if the president resign...Prefer to refrain from posting rumours but if someone is searching it, he can find it in many sources.

It is intense over there in Barca. I don't understand the timing. As said by hilarious it is a little bit late now.
The club was suffering, many problems between players, between stuff and players, and Barca was kicked from all competitions but Messi just seemed to be angry and pissed. The humiliating defeat against Bayern might be the reason that made him start doing some pressure on the board for a serious change. The impact of the covid on the economic level of the clubs may made an eventual transfer a little bit harder. Although selling new club shirts with Messi names on it can make them profitable  Roll Eyes
We will see how this drama will end.

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August 26, 2020, 01:29:33 PM
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Surely Messi won’t leave Barca, he has acted like this, similarly in the past. I really can’t see him moving to Man City, it just doesn’t seem possible to me. We will find out very soon though.

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August 26, 2020, 01:39:27 PM
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Surely Messi won’t leave Barca, he has acted like this, similarly in the past. I really can’t see him moving to Man City, it just doesn’t seem possible to me. We will find out very soon though.
If Messi does it only because he really want to leave Barca, I don't have any word to say. There are many legendary players who played for a single club and did not accept any transfer even from big clubs, like Real Madrid. They truly loved their clubs and sacrificed their career for their lovely clubs. Their loyalty deserve all respect from us. Steven Gerrad, Francesco Totti, Daniele De Rossi. I don't count players who played for big clubs and won dozens of trophies like Paolo Maldini, Raul Gonzalez, etc.

Let's see how the drama ends and see how big the love and loyalty of Messi for Barca.

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August 26, 2020, 01:46:23 PM
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Surely Messi won’t leave Barca, he has acted like this, similarly in the past. I really can’t see him moving to Man City, it just doesn’t seem possible to me. We will find out very soon though.
I also dont think that Messi really want to move to another club despite the news about that. I think Messi is playing the role of putting pressure on people he doesnt like at the club and maybe thats the management and the coach. Barca will have to change their president and club coach as well.

The rumor of Messi move are simply pressure for the two of them to be replaced by another. Moreover, the coach, Barca must immediately realize the contract with their new coach and Xavi is the candidate that many fans want besides Koeman. I dont want Messi to move from Barcelona because everyone there likes him. He is a Legend there with a lot of achievement he has achieved with the club. If management allow him to go, then I dont think its a wise decision and its not an attempt to reward his success in bringing the club so many accomplishment.

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August 26, 2020, 02:43:02 PM
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I am not sure that Messi really want to leave Barca or it is his pressure on Barca's president Bartomeu.
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I got this from Barca's Twitter. Is this right or wrong? I can't prove it. I also had read that the new coach of Barca has also given rules for all players, nothing special about all the players they have management and all coaches have to respect it. You can view it here: https://twitter.com/fcbarcelonaorg/status/1298369403134922752?s=19
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I got this from Barca's Twitter. Is this right or wrong? I can't prove it. I also had read that the new coach of Barca has also given rules for all players, nothing special about all the players they have management and all coaches have to respect it. You can view it here: https://twitter.com/fcbarcelonaorg/status/1298369403134922752?s=19
If it is real why was it leaked like that? The drama and the leak remind me about the past ugly actions from Bartomeu when he signed contracts with some companies to attack the club's key players. Did Bartomeu repeat it again with the Messi-related drama?

Anyhow Messi will stay or leave, Bartomeu has to leave sooner or later.

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August 26, 2020, 04:31:21 PM
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Suarez is rumored to be sending his lawyer to discuss terminating his contract with Barcelona.
reading this news made me a little surprised...
Koeman really made a big change to the Barca squad, it is certain that this will affect Barca's game in the new season.



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August 26, 2020, 04:56:25 PM
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Suarez is rumored to be sending his lawyer to discuss terminating his contract with Barcelona.
reading this news made me a little surprised...
Koeman really made a big change to the Barca squad, it is certain that this will affect Barca's game in the new season.
Yeah I read this too but with all this drama about Messi, I preferred to not add another one lol. I read there is discussion with a club in Miami? Dunno but sounds weird to jump from one of the best leagues to a lower one..

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August 26, 2020, 07:11:56 PM
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Messi needs to be sold or released for free. Without him, building a new team will be easier. But letting go of Messi would be suicide for the Barcelona president. Therefore, he will be held by any means.
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August 26, 2020, 07:25:18 PM
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I got this from Barca's Twitter. Is this right or wrong? I can't prove it. I also had read that the new coach of Barca has also given rules for all players, nothing special about all the players they have management and all coaches have to respect it. You can view it here: https://twitter.com/fcbarcelonaorg/status/1298369403134922752?s=19


That's not their real twitter. This is: https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona

Messi needs to be sold or released for free. Without him, building a new team will be easier. But letting go of Messi would be suicide for the Barcelona president. Therefore, he will be held by any means.

Not much they can do if he exercises the clause in his contract that allows him to leave, but the question is is that still valid due to the covid delays. I'm sure there will be a legal battle if he does try to go though. Either way his standing with the club will be soured. Do they really want a player that threatens to leave or is probably trying to run the club his own way? Maybe it's best for them to let him go if his ego is getting in the way. He's not going to stay there forever anyway so maybe it's time for Barca to start planning for life without him.

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August 26, 2020, 07:26:00 PM
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I am not sure that Messi really want to leave Barca or it is his pressure on Barca's president Bartomeu.
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I got this from Barca's Twitter. Is this right or wrong? I can't prove it. I also had read that the new coach of Barca has also given rules for all players, nothing special about all the players they have management and all coaches have to respect it. You can view it here: https://twitter.com/fcbarcelonaorg/status/1298369403134922752?s=19

That's not their real twitter. This is: https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona

Messi needs to be sold or released for free. Without him, building a new team will be easier. But letting go of Messi would be suicide for the Barcelona president. Therefore, he will be held by any means.

Not much they can do if he exercises the clause in his contract that allows him to leave, but the question is is that still valid due to the covid delays. I'm sure there will be a legal battle if he does try to go though. Either way his standing with the club will be soured. Do they really want a player that threatens to leave or is probably trying to run the club his own way? Maybe it's best for them to let him go if his ego is getting in the way. He's not going to stay there forever anyway so maybe it's time for Barca to start planning for life without him.

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August 26, 2020, 07:49:32 PM
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Yeah I read this too but with all this drama about Messi, I preferred to not add another one lol. I read there is discussion with a club in Miami? Dunno but sounds weird to jump from one of the best leagues to a lower one..
I also think so, but this is only one reason Messi and for me quite touching...
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Messi didn't like the way Barcelona got rid of Luis Suarez. The Uruguayan bomber was contacted by phone that he was no longer needed next season. In fact, Suarez is Messi's partner on the pitch as well as his best friend off the pitch. Messi thinks Suarez deserves more respect.

I don't really like Messi and don't really follow the news about him but I like if he moves to Inter Milan not Inter Miami lol, while waiting for him to retire from football due to his old age.



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August 26, 2020, 08:11:16 PM
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Yeah I read this too but with all this drama about Messi, I preferred to not add another one lol. I read there is discussion with a club in Miami? Dunno but sounds weird to jump from one of the best leagues to a lower one..
I also think so, but this is only one reason Messi and for me quite touching...
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Messi didn't like the way Barcelona got rid of Luis Suarez. The Uruguayan bomber was contacted by phone that he was no longer needed next season. In fact, Suarez is Messi's partner on the pitch as well as his best friend off the pitch. Messi thinks Suarez deserves more respect.

I don't really like Messi and don't really follow the news about him but I like if he moves to Inter Milan not Inter Miami lol, while waiting for him to retire from football due to his old age.
Nah Messi will not end his career in random clubs for sure IF ever he moved from Barca. I am talking about Suarez, I read there is talk about him joining a Miami club. What you said about Barca no more needs him is shocking. The guy was awesome before his injury and without him Barca wouldn't be 2nd maybe, getting ride of him that way isn't acceptable!!

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August 27, 2020, 01:14:17 AM
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him. But, some media's mentioned if Messi not make a decision atm. If, Messi asking something impossible for Barca, official will let him go, with around 600 mil Euro. Based on Local media's in Indonesia they say if Man City still interest no matter how much messi's prices.

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August 27, 2020, 03:44:24 AM
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him. But, some media's mentioned if Messi not make a decision atm. If, Messi asking something impossible for Barca, official will let him go, with around 600 mil Euro. Based on Local media's in Indonesia they say if Man City still interest no matter how much messi's prices.

@masulum it’s not drama because he’s hurt by their behaviour, and it all began when he was accused of deliberately playing bad football to get their manager sacked, which we all know isn’t true.

If that wasn’t bad enough then the board claimed that the player’s refused to take a pay cut due to covid, which was once again false as all the player’s had agreed to take a pay cut.

Lastly after the humiliating defeat they suffered at the hands of Bayern, their newly appointed coach decides to tell Messi that his privileges are over, and now he’s just a regular team player.

What would you expect Messi to do? accept such kind of humiliation again and again, and for what’s it worth I hope that he gets to walk away as a free transfer, because that’s the best revenge he can get on Barcelona board for constantly humiliating him.

Sources:

https://talksport.com/football/665283/lionel-messi-eric-abidal-barcelona/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8167609/Lionel-Messi-confirms-Barcelona-players-70-cent-wage-cut-hits-club-AGAIN.html

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53786666

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/messi-stunned-barcelona-exit-koeman-agent-next-club
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August 27, 2020, 07:53:27 AM
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him. But, some media's mentioned if Messi not make a decision atm. If, Messi asking something impossible for Barca, official will let him go, with around 600 mil Euro. Based on Local media's in Indonesia they say if Man City still interest no matter how much messi's prices.

Well, this is going to be the hot topic of this summer.
Even if any other team makes big moves and sign a lot of players Messi is going to be the topic that would interest people.
I hope his transfer is going to end up soon in order to focus on other topics then.
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August 27, 2020, 10:53:41 AM
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In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.
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