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August 27, 2020, 11:07:32 AM
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In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.

Nothing is 100% certain in life except death who would have thought Ronaldo would leave Real Madrid for Juventus? He told them when he was ready to leave, he needed new challenge, environment, new friends, new location. They allowed him leave. Same thing with Messi if he eventually wants to leave and the  the buying team meets all the criteria set by Barcelona. They will definitely allow him go. I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. Even if Messi would leave Barcelona it wouldn't be for a team that he will one day play against Barcelona maybe his childhood football team in Argentina or somewhere away from Europe.

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August 27, 2020, 01:30:50 PM
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Lastly after the humiliating defeat they suffered at the hands of Bayern, their newly appointed coach decides to tell Messi that his privileges are over, and now he’s just a regular team player.



Is this actually true? To be honest, it probably depends on how much control he has over the club/behind the scenes but sometimes a reality check for divas is a dose of reality they need. I have no idea whether this is true of Messi but if he's thrown his toys out of the pram just because he's been told he's not going to get special privileges then this is a bit petty. I still don't think he's going to leave but surely his reputation there with both the board and fans will be soured unless they love him blindly so much he will be forgvien no matter what he does.

In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.

Nothing is 100% certain in life except death who would have thought Ronaldo would leave Real Madrid for Juventus? He told them when he was ready to leave, he needed new challenge, environment, new friends, new location. They allowed him leave. Same thing with Messi if he eventually wants to leave and the  the buying team meets all the criteria set by Barcelona. They will definitely allow him go. I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. Even if Messi would leave Barcelona it wouldn't be for a team that he will one day play against Barcelona maybe his childhood football team in Argentina or somewhere away from Europe.

Big difference. Messi is a one club man and Ronaldo had already left Lisbon and United. I'm sure he'll play for a couple of other clubs before he retires as well. I read the other day that Italy only has 25% taxes so that was one of the reasons why he went there. Maybe Messi will go there for the same reasons too.

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August 28, 2020, 03:31:17 AM
Last edit: August 28, 2020, 07:59:34 PM by Swordsoffreedom
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In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.

Yeah, Bartomeu must leave Barcelona sooner or later. We have seen Barcelona's gameplay in this season. I have rarely seen such a bad game Barcelona. Barcelona team needed some drastic changes, we need some good defender and we also need a goal machine like Messi. If Messi really leave Barcelona, something worse is waiting for Barcelona next season.  I think Bartomeu should resign now and change the coach.  That would be the best decision for a better future for Barcelona.


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August 28, 2020, 05:46:38 AM
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The captain is the last to leave the ship. But Messi, instead of forcing the management to make changes, simply leaves the team in a crisis. Great players don't do that. He'd better leave. And I think Barcelona will benefit from this.
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August 28, 2020, 06:10:30 AM
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The captain is the last to leave the ship. But Messi, instead of forcing the management to make changes, simply leaves the team in a crisis. Great players don't do that. He'd better leave. And I think Barcelona will benefit from this.

I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆

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August 28, 2020, 06:17:00 AM
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I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆
Without Barca, Messi does not have what we have now. Without Messi, Barca don't get too many trophies in last 20 years. Debate can occur but the fact is Messi is a last piece of Barca squad, and tiki-taka is completed with Messi and Pep.

Barca and Messi need each other. They don't own the other side.

I mean Messi can leave without any feeling of doubts he has with Barca. I think he feel how was and bitter it is but we as the observers can not say what he does, and will do is right or wrong. Of course, a legend like Messi should retire at his one-club since his debut so far.

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August 28, 2020, 01:59:21 PM
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I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆
Without Barca, Messi does not have what we have now. Without Messi, Barca don't get too many trophies in last 20 years. Debate can occur but the fact is Messi is a last piece of Barca squad, and tiki-taka is completed with Messi and Pep.

Barca and Messi need each other. They don't own the other side.

I mean Messi can leave without any feeling of doubts he has with Barca. I think he feel how was and bitter it is but we as the observers can not say what he does, and will do is right or wrong. Of course, a legend like Messi should retire at his one-club since his debut so far.

So much for personal sadness, denial, and hope that Messi should stay with Barca. It is over to put it bluntly. Bartolomeu already threathens to resign if Messi won't leave Barca. Philippe Coutinho is being groomed to be Messi replacement, and Manchester City will give 100 million Euros to Messi as part of the deal. I don't know about you guys but Messi has to move on to greener and better pastures and teams that would give him that and good team management will be a welcome change for Messi. Let's move on. 

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August 28, 2020, 02:52:24 PM
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If Messi really leave Barcelona , something worse is waiting for Barcelona next season .  I think Bartomeu should resign now and change the coach .  That would be the best decision for a better future for Barcelona

I think it will be good just waiting for the process, Barca could be without a title, play badly but this has to be done for regeneration. This process will take some time, and the results are not immediately visible. Maybe the fans are ready to go without a title, the game is not good, things will look difficult at the start, but if the management is serious it will be good for the future. The transfer market this time must be put to good use by the coach, the selection of players must think about his project to continue and live long, not just what the coach wants for one season.
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August 28, 2020, 05:36:55 PM
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him.
I think it is only about time that Messi will sign his new contract in Barcelona. He has got everything he wants in Barcelona, so I doubt if he really braves to leave it. I know he is a special player, but I am not sure if he will get special treatment like in Barcelona if he moves to another club. Also, it is not easy to adapt to a new club, even it may become a nightmare. For me, it is better to stay than leaving for another club with a high risk for his career.


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August 28, 2020, 05:42:13 PM
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him.
I think it is only about time that Messi will sign his new contract in Barcelona. He has got everything he wants in Barcelona, so I doubt if he really braves to leave it. I know he is a special player, but I am not sure if he will get special treatment like in Barcelona if he moves to another club. Also, it is not easy to adapt to a new club, even it may become a nightmare. For me, it is better to stay than leaving for another club with a high risk for his career.

Could it be that it is still a dilemma for Lionel Messi to leave Barcelona? I know this can be a new dream for Messi if the wrong move to another club, his career can fade because it is difficult to adapt but Barcelona will also not be like it used to be if there is still a prolonged conflict maybe now is not a special person at Barcelona but Messi must reconsider this. because this is the continuation of the future for them.

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August 28, 2020, 07:20:45 PM
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The captain is the last to leave the ship. But Messi, instead of forcing the management to make changes, simply leaves the team in a crisis. Great players don't do that. He'd better leave. And I think Barcelona will benefit from this.

I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆

Messi just wants to reunion or join Pep, because if Pep's contract is not extended I think Messi will stay at Barca but anything can happen. If Messi leaves then that will only make Barca even more devastated I feel, because when Messi doesn't play because the injury has shown that Barca still has a dependency with Messi. For that reason, I'm not sure Barcelona will still be okay if Messi leaves, because to get back up and improve that management will at least take a long time to get back to being at its best.

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August 28, 2020, 09:00:32 PM
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~I'm not sure Barcelona will still be okay if Messi leaves, because to get back up and improve that management will at least take a long time to get back to being at its best.
You are right. Messi has a big role for Barcelona squad, as I ever said that he is the soul of the Barcelona team now. Messi's role is irreplaceable, even Barcelona buy a superstar, no guarantee that the superstar can fit with the team instantly. Moreover, Messi is the captain of Barcelona squad right now, it should be a big loss if Messi leaves the squad in the next season. I cannot imagine how bad the condition in Barca squad if no Messi there!


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August 28, 2020, 10:28:28 PM
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Messi's role is irreplaceable, even Barcelona buy a superstar, no guarantee that the superstar can fit with the team instantly.

Everything is replaceable if there is a big chunk of money. The only thing that prevent Messi from leaving is that there isnt any team out there that has the balls to bid high for this player. People say the same thing to Ronaldo but he left for Juventus.

I cannot imagine how bad the condition in Barca squad if no Messi there!

Sooner or later , Messi is going to leave Barcelona. Either he is going to retire in few more years or spend few more years playing for another club. People needs to get over it and this is just normal, this is football and this is business. Everything can be purchase if a team has lots of money which include Messi. Probably not going to be this season but sooner or later though

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It seems to me that this latest news shows that Messi has definitely decided to leave Barcelona and will not change his decision:
''Lionel Messi hasn't turned up for PCR testing with the rest of the Barcelona squad on Sunday morning''
Also Messi has already stated that he no longer wants to train with the rest of the team.
Story is over.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/30/5f4b7253268e3eaf078b4576.html

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August 30, 2020, 11:40:06 AM
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It seems to me that this latest news shows that Messi has definitely decided to leave Barcelona and will not change his decision:
''Lionel Messi hasn't turned up for PCR testing with the rest of the Barcelona squad on Sunday morning''
Also Messi has already stated that he no longer wants to train with the rest of the team.
Story is over.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/30/5f4b7253268e3eaf078b4576.html
Now it is time for Messi and Barca to find a best solution for their love story after more than 2 decades. If the release price rule is expired and not applied in the last year of their contract, I don't think there are any club readily to spend huge transfer fund for Messi. $100 still be an expensive price after what some big clubs sponsored from Middle East corporations get troubles, Manchester City, PSG and with the global economy crisis because of COVID-19.

$50 mil. or free transfer for Messi.  Huh

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It seems to me that this latest news shows that Messi has definitely decided to leave Barcelona and will not change his decision:
''Lionel Messi hasn't turned up for PCR testing with the rest of the Barcelona squad on Sunday morning''
Also Messi has already stated that he no longer wants to train with the rest of the team.
Story is over.
Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/30/5f4b7253268e3eaf078b4576.html
Now it is time for Messi and Barca to find a best solution for their love story after more than 2 decades. If the release price rule is expired and not applied in the last year of their contract, I don't think there are any club readily to spend huge transfer fund for Messi. $100 still be an expensive price after what some big clubs sponsored from Middle East corporations get troubles, Manchester City, PSG and with the global economy crisis because of COVID-19.

$50 mil. or free transfer for Messi.  Huh

Barcelona should not prevent Messi from leaving, because it is useless to hold players who no longer want to stay.
If Barcelona continues to force Messi to stayed, it will be detrimental to both parties. I agree that Messi's transfer
value is very unreasonable in a pandemic like now. Barcelona shouldn't charge too much.

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August 30, 2020, 12:31:33 PM
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Barcelona should not prevent Messi from leaving, because it is useless to hold players who no longer want to stay.
If Barcelona continues to force Messi to stayed, it will be detrimental to both parties. I agree that Messi's transfer
value is very unreasonable in a pandemic like now. Barcelona shouldn't charge too much.
Messi has the decision to make/choose when he wants to leave Barcelona or if he is staying, I understand the fans and faithfuls emotions at this time.
But Messi shouldn't leave and if he must leave not at this time. Their is so much crises in Barcelona now that can stain a white robe reputation.
Messi is undoubted Barcelona greatest ever player, and it AI take take long or never forgotten, Messi is deserving of a statue in Barcelona a name craven/inscribed in Barcelona football club, if Messi should exist Barcelona it should be with a tearfully joy from Barcelona fans and football lovers not in leaving in crises.
Messi would leave if his mind is made up to leave but at this point Barcelona is in disarray/crisis, its would be beautiful Messi leaving with pride and a balanced ground -it could be next year or when the club is calm-.

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August 30, 2020, 01:10:45 PM
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Barcelona should not prevent Messi from leaving, because it is useless to hold players who no longer want to stay.
If Barcelona continues to force Messi to stayed, it will be detrimental to both parties. I agree that Messi's transfer
value is very unreasonable in a pandemic like now. Barcelona shouldn't charge too much.
Messi has the decision to make/choose when he wants to leave Barcelona or if he is staying, I understand the fans and faithfuls emotions at this time.
But Messi shouldn't leave and if he must leave not at this time. Their is so much crises in Barcelona now that can stain a white robe reputation.
Messi is undoubted Barcelona greatest ever player, and it AI take take long or never forgotten, Messi is deserving of a statue in Barcelona a name craven/inscribed in Barcelona football club, if Messi should exist Barcelona it should be with a tearfully joy from Barcelona fans and football lovers not in leaving in crises.
Messi would leave if his mind is made up to leave but at this point Barcelona is in disarray/crisis, its would be beautiful Messi leaving with pride and a balanced ground -it could be next year or when the club is calm-.

Indeed, if Messi leaves Barcelona this season, things will get worse!!
Barcelona desperately needs to restructure the team. I don't think that pressuring Messi to stay will only make the club better, but other solutions must be found that effectively contribute to improving the situation Barcelona is currently going through. It is true that Messi has made good offers with the club that deserve all the appreciation from the club's fans, but at the moment he wants to leave, so the club must accept that.
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August 31, 2020, 06:37:30 AM
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^^ Nothing is going to go worse.
Messi needs to leave as soon as possible for the shake of the club. Barcelona needs reform and with Messi on the squad this is impossible to happen.
If he leaves early the team is going to have more time to rebuild the team.
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August 31, 2020, 07:33:59 AM
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Barca then La Liga, they all cooperated together to try get as much money from the transfer of Messi as possible. Is it fair and respectful for one of their greatest legendary players in Barca's and La Liga's histories? What they reacted with the official burofax from Messi and drama show that Messi chose a good decision. I support him to leave Barca and La Liga ASAP. He contributed for them too much and at the end, they only want as highest money as possible.

I don't try to generalize all things but it seems from Barca to Real Madrid then La Liga, they don't show deep respect for their legendary players. It is different than Bundesliga or Serie A.

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