La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24

[Daniel91]

Messi seems to have become even more furious and angry at Barcelona.
All the details of his meeting with new Barcelona coach Koeman have been revealed by RAC1, and they are close to the current president of Barcelona and the board.
Messi seems to believe that this is a deliberate diversion of the Barcelona management to portray him as a bad boy and force him to leave the club.
What do you think?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/21/5f401377e2704ec1058b459d.html

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[Darkoth89]

Messi seems to have become even more furious and angry at Barcelona.
All the details of his meeting with new Barcelona coach Koeman have been revealed by RAC1, and they are close to the current president of Barcelona and the board.
Messi seems to believe that this is a deliberate diversion of the Barcelona management to portray him as a bad boy and force him to leave the club.
What do you think?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/21/5f401377e2704ec1058b459d.html

So it's Barcagate 2.0? I seriously don't undertstand why Bartomeu is still president. He should have been kicked out long time ago, right after his initial smear campaign against his current and former players and coaches was uncovered. And now when Barca wants to make a fresh start it would've been another possibility to get rid of him finally.

[Juggy777]

Messi seems to have become even more furious and angry at Barcelona.
All the details of his meeting with new Barcelona coach Koeman have been revealed by RAC1, and they are close to the current president of Barcelona and the board.
Messi seems to believe that this is a deliberate diversion of the Barcelona management to portray him as a bad boy and force him to leave the club.
What do you think?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/21/5f401377e2704ec1058b459d.html

So it's Barcagate 2.0? I seriously don't undertstand why Bartomeu is still president. He should have been kicked out long time ago, right after his initial smear campaign against his current and former players and coaches was uncovered. And now when Barca wants to make a fresh start it would've been another possibility to get rid of him finally.

@Daniel91 I’m really surprised to read that Barcelona board members want him to be sold, and if that happens then Barcelona will only suffer more setbacks. @Darkoth89 yea Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Source:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4127366/lionel-messi-halts-barcelona-contract-talks-past-2021-report

[masulum]

setbacks. @Darkoth89 yea Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Going as a free transfer for Messi will become a bad thing for Barcelona. Messi can be sold at a high price or at least get some million euros from this sold. of course, the club who get a free sign for Messi will become the lucky clubs in the world. even he is 33 yo, he still has skill and will become a goal bomber for his new clubs. Inter, PSG, Man City will race to bring him. of course, it will another club's name will follow them.

[snipie]

@Daniel91 I’m really surprised to read that Barcelona board members want him to be sold, and if that happens then Barcelona will only suffer more setbacks. @Darkoth89 yea Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Barcelona president should have resigned long time ago along with his staff. You can expect something good from high tension between players, coach, board members and him... I believe Messi will stay and will say again next year for Barca too but I prefer to watch him playing somewhere else and let's see where Barca will be ranked next year.

[BITCOIN4X]

Barcelona president should have resigned long time ago along with his staff. You can expect something good from high tension between players, coach, board members and him... I believe Messi will stay and will say again next year for Barca too but I prefer to watch him playing somewhere else and let's see where Barca will be ranked next year.

Barca are still too dependent on Messi because until now no player has been able to match his level in the team. I am sure Messi will also stay with Barca next season because that is his home. Dont want to hear he is moving to another team and he is retiring there.

Speculation will probably continue to flow about him and we will only realize that he will actually retire there in the next few year. Expecting Barca to have a new president and coach next season because it is very unnatural for a team as great as Barca to fast without winning the title every season. The fragile defensive area must be filled with quality player because so far Pique doesnt look young and strong anymore.

[Daniel91]

Messi seems to have become even more furious and angry at Barcelona.
All the details of his meeting with new Barcelona coach Koeman have been revealed by RAC1, and they are close to the current president of Barcelona and the board.
Messi seems to believe that this is a deliberate diversion of the Barcelona management to portray him as a bad boy and force him to leave the club.
What do you think?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/21/5f401377e2704ec1058b459d.html

So it's Barcagate 2.0? I seriously don't undertstand why Bartomeu is still president. He should have been kicked out long time ago, right after his initial smear campaign against his current and former players and coaches was uncovered. And now when Barca wants to make a fresh start it would've been another possibility to get rid of him finally.

@Daniel91 I’m really surprised to read that Barcelona board members want him to be sold, and if that happens then Barcelona will only suffer more setbacks. @Darkoth89 yea Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Source:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4127366/lionel-messi-halts-barcelona-contract-talks-past-2021-report

I agree with you, if the president of Barcelona does not leave the club soon, Barcelona will probably lose Messi and enter an even bigger crisis with disturbed relations at the club.
The time has come for changes in the club and the new leadership, otherwise they are threatened with even bigger problems.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Messi seems to have become even more furious and angry at Barcelona. All the details of his meeting with new Barcelona coach Koeman have been revealed by RAC1, and they are close to the current president of Barcelona and the board. Messi seems to believe that this is a deliberate diversion of the Barcelona management to portray him as a bad boy and force him to leave the club. ~

Source: marca.com

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@Daniel91 I’m really surprised to read that Barcelona board members want him to be sold, and if that happens then Barcelona will only suffer more setbacks. @Darkoth89 yea Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Source: espn.in

~ if the president of Barcelona does not leave the club soon, Barcelona will probably lose Messi and enter an even bigger crisis with disturbed relations at the club. The time has come for changes in the club and the new leadership, otherwise they are threatened with even bigger problems.

Barcelona club is now in a serious crisis.  They have to deal with a bad situation. if they do not make some serious changes in their leadership and team management, they will not be able to see success in the next season. and they also need some good defender. if they will not change their team management, there is a chance that they will lose Messi. and I think, if Messi leave Barcelona, Suarez will not be able to perform as well as he(Suarez) does now. so, it is the right time for Barcelona to take some difficult decision.

[-CryptoViking-]

Messi seems to have become even more furious and angry at Barcelona.
All the details of his meeting with new Barcelona coach Koeman have been revealed by RAC1, and they are close to the current president of Barcelona and the board.
Messi seems to believe that this is a deliberate diversion of the Barcelona management to portray him as a bad boy and force him to leave the club.
What do you think?

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2020/08/21/5f401377e2704ec1058b459d.html

Messi should finally leave Barcelona after all this drama and join some other club, even though I'm not sure that is possible because of the clauses in his contract.If that happens and he finally leaves we will finally get a chance to see how Messi looks in some other club besides Barca, which I'm surely will interest a lot of people that have that question for years now.

[AakZaki]

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Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Source:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4127366/lionel-messi-halts-barcelona-contract-talks-past-2021-report

I don't know exactly how this happened. If management wants messi to leave,  I think it will be done before the contract runs out. The decision has to be made, of course it will be bad at first. But for future projections I think this is the initial plan to renew the team, for the better.

[BitSat19]

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Bartomeu deserves to loose next year’s election, and due to his ego it’s quite possible that we may see Messi leave on a free transfer in the 2021 summer transfer window.

Source:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4127366/lionel-messi-halts-barcelona-contract-talks-past-2021-report

I don't know exactly how this happened. If management wants messi to leave,  I think it will be done before the contract runs out. The decision has to be made, of course it will be bad at first. But for future projections I think this is the initial plan to renew the team, for the better.

I am feeling now Barcelona is going for many new players as few hours ago on twitter we have koeman told Suarez and Vidal look for new clubs mean they are going to change too many players before new season its really amazing.

[LTU_btc]

Finally we know all 20 teams who will play in next season La Liga. Last team is Elche - they won promotional playoffs yesterday after beating Girona. Well, Elche isn't team which I preferred to see in La Liga. Their pitch quality is terrible and I expect to see them in the bottom of table next season. I really wanted to see Girona and their leader Stuani in La Liga again. He is just too good to play in Segunda - 31 goals this season. Unfortunately he got red card yesterday.

I am feeling now Barcelona is going for many new players as few hours ago on twitter we have koeman told Suarez and Vidal look for new clubs mean they are going to change too many players before new season its really amazing.

I don't believe that big changes is going to happen before new season. First, season is going to start just after few weeks, so it's not much time for serious rebuild of squad. Another problem - now Barca simply don't enough money available for it.

[Trofo]

Hey guys, I have updated the OP a bit. I have hit reset button on the poll so you can go and cast your vote for the champion in the new season. This post is official the first post of the new season.

There is still only few of us declared as supporters of some clubs so if you want to proudly state your club feel free and I'll include it into the OP. It is so much sweeter when you know who to make fun of when Real looses a game 5:1  

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It seems that I am getting the "2nd" post here too
Well in La Liga I prefer both Madrid teams, Real then ATM. Will not say a big fan but prefer to see them winning vs Barca 8-2 for example  
I predict Real Madrid to win La Liga this time too!

[kawetsriyanto]

Hey guys, I have updated the OP a bit. I have hit reset button on the poll so you can go and cast your vote for the champion in the new season.

Done. I have voted to my favorite club as before and I hope they can win again in the next season. 
Anyway, it seems I am the third person to vote after you reset the poll. Let's hope we have more voters this season.

We managed to hit 163 pages in one season time so it seams there is a lot of opinions in this thread.

Yep, I am not surprised if one season we can achieve 163 pages. As long as there are Real Madrid and Barcelona in La Liga, we will always have a lot of comments daily in this thread. The rivalry between Real Madrid and Barcelona is the most exciting nowadays. So, don't be so surprised if the next season we will have more than 200 pages. 

[kassex]

But this is unlikely to change anything for those who must leave. At least 5 people from the starting lineup must leave. Whether Barcelona can buy an adequate replacement and whether they can fit into Barcelona's game quickly enough is a big question.

Depends on how you define 'quickly'. The upheaval now at Barca will take time. For me they aren't favourites for next years title at the moment. When Ronaldo left Real they also needed a season to adjust and replace him as a team. And in Barceloa we might see even more important changes in the team. Even before their humilating defeat in the UCL and a season without any title, Barca had plans to get rid of a lot of their player. Now Pique, Suarez ... heck, even Messi might leave them. I am curious how the starting line-up will look next season. The new coach however could be a chance to integrate Coutinho, Dembele or Griezmann into the team again. As I said, challenging but interesting times ahead for Barca.
 

To integrate the named players, you need Messi to leave, which is quite problematic. Not every team can buy him. The price is too high and the salary is too high. But I am sure that Messi will play in Barcelona for another year. And you shouldn't write them off. .I think that next year they will take LA Liga. Real Madrid must also be rebuilt.

[snipie]

Urgent news!

The club source said Messi, who has spent his entire career at Barca, informed the club about his desire to leave by sending a burofax, a service used in Spain to urgently dispatch a document that requires proof to third parties.

source
Intense rumours, well apparently not only rumours, say that Messi has decided to leave Barca and informed the board about it. It says also there is an urgent meeting, the president decided to resign if Messi stays maybe?
It is too hot in Barca these days!

[hd49728]

Urgent news!

The club source said Messi, who has spent his entire career at Barca, informed the club about his desire to leave by sending a burofax, a service used in Spain to urgently dispatch a document that requires proof to third parties.

source
Intense rumours, well apparently not only rumours, say that Messi has decided to leave Barca and informed the board about it. It says also there is an urgent meeting, the president decided to resign if Messi stays maybe?
It is too hot in Barca these days!

I am not sure that Messi really want to leave Barca or it is his pressure on Barca's president Bartomeu. If Messi want to leave the club, they should let him go and get a huge transfer fund back to rebuild their team. If Messi want to stay in Barca, the club has to do their best to keep him there. It depends on Messi's reaction. I don't say Messi is too important and he should be played on top of club's benefits and future growth but as I said if Messi leaves the club, it will be better for all.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I am not sure that Messi really want to leave Barca or it is his pressure on Barca's president Bartomeu. If Messi want to leave the club, they should let him go and get a huge transfer fund back to rebuild their team. If Messi want to stay in Barca, the club has to do their best to keep him there. It depends on Messi's reaction. I don't say Messi is too important and he should be played on top of club's benefits and future growth but as I said if Messi leaves the club, it will be better for all.

The need to move away from Barcelona might be associated with the current politics in the club along with the clubs recent bad season. I think if Xavi was appointed as manager of the Club instead of Koeman. Chances are high that he could have stayed.

There was a clause in his contract which allowed him to leave for free, if he informed the club of his desire before 10 June [source] which means until recently, he wasn't planning on leaving the club. If he wanted to leave at the end of the season, I don't see why he would wait for the clause to expire and then try to initiate the buyout clause which is around 700 million Euros

[Trofo]

There was a clause in his contract which allowed him to leave for free, if he informed the club of his desire before 10 June [source] which means until recently, he wasn't planning on leaving the club. If he wanted to leave at the end of the season, I don't see why he would wait for the clause to expire and then try to initiate the buyout clause which is around 700 million Euros

Because he loves the club and wanted to give his best to win another Champions League? That clause has also been made in times without corona and it should have expired after season end. I see this either as a final effort to change politics inside the club or maybe he really had enough and wants to leave. Barca has to find a way to let him go for "normal fee" nowhere near 700M after all he has done for them.

I see Man City as the only club that can be his destination. They have money for transfer and wages, a coach in very good relations with Messi and a competitive league. PSG has only money and nothing else to make him go there. I will not even mention other destinations since they are highly unlikely. Messi in City would bring huge influx from merchandise as well and it is a deal City has to try and make.