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September 04, 2020, 06:53:53 PM
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At least that ended all the speculations and drama with that. There is one thing for sure that he is unsettled so it's gonna start again next year.
Many media have said that Messi will stay at Barcelona. Not new anymore, it can be predicted. Like the previous season, Messi was always rumored to be leaving Barcelona. And the reality is the same as now, staying alive until you retire in Barcelona.

I read some unpleasant stories about Barcelona lately.

Messi stayed but will it be the same like before?

I don't think Messi will be able to retire in Barcelona. He'll probably start playing like shit in the upcoming years as a big FU to the club and they'll let him go for free.

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September 04, 2020, 08:05:44 PM
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Now I have mixed feelings about Messi. as fan of Barca, yes, Im happy that he will stay in Barcelona for one more year. But he wanted to leave already, but he was forced to stay - Messi simply had no choice - stay or go to court against his club. For me it's incredible that Bartomeu & co is still in charge. I think it will be diffcult year for Messi when his relationships with current board is so complicated.

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Last edit: September 04, 2020, 10:10:21 PM by Darkoth89
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At least that ended all the speculations and drama with that. There is one thing for sure that he is unsettled so it's gonna start again next year.


I guess there are two possibilities: First, Barca keeps struggeling under the new coach, falls back behind Real in the league and also gets kicked out early in the Champions League. Then I am pretty sure Messi will be pissed and will leave next year to get a shitload of money as signing fee from City, PSG etc. Or Koeman manages to bring Barca back on track and they show attractive and successful football again. Messi sees a perspective for him at Barca again and renews his contract to get a shitload of money.

Nothing is sure other than Messi getting a ton of money whatever he does next season.
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September 04, 2020, 09:11:21 PM
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Many media have said that Messi will stay at Barcelona. Not new anymore, it can be predicted. Like the previous season, Messi was always rumored to be leaving Barcelona. And the reality is the same as now, staying alive until you retire in Barcelona.
It is normal if the media blows up the issue that Messi will leave Barcelona. He is a superstar, the best player in La Liga for now, also the first player in Barcelona. All people must be attracted to the issue or rumor as it is related to the big name of Messi. The media may take advantage of this situation. Regarding the fact that Messi still stays in Barcelona, I think he has no choice. Now, Barcelona isn't in good condition, he gets nothing in this season. Most players have experienced a decrease in performance. It will be very ironic if he leaves Barcelona this time, while the club needs him. We all know that he is a captain, the most influential player on the team.


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Last edit: September 05, 2020, 09:54:55 PM by Swordsoffreedom
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Many media have said that Messi will stay at Barcelona. Not new anymore, it can be predicted. Like the previous season, Messi was always rumored to be leaving Barcelona. And the reality is the same as now, staying alive until you retire in Barcelona.
It is normal if the media blows up the issue that Messi will leave Barcelona. He is a superstar, the best player in La Liga for now, also the first player in Barcelona. All people must be attracted to the issue or rumor as it is related to the big name of Messi. The media may take advantage of this situation. Regarding the fact that Messi still stays in Barcelona, I think he has no choice. Now, Barcelona isn't in good condition, he gets nothing in this season. Most players have experienced a decrease in performance. It will be very ironic if he leaves Barcelona this time, while the club needs him. We all know that he is a captain, the most influential player on the team.

You told that, in this time the club needs him (Messi). But he is now 33 years old. He is nearing the end of his career. So, in this time he needs a UCL trophy or Ballon D. Or to reach himself to the list of legends. If he stays in Barcelona in this season, he cannot achieve those. Because Barcelona is now a team in disarray. Rakitich already leave Barca and Vidal will leave too. we already heard that Barca board wants to release Suarez too. Then tell me that, how will Messi lead this team forward alone?   The Barcelona board should now reorganize the whole team.

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September 05, 2020, 09:01:36 AM
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You told that , in this time the club needs him (messi) . But he is now 33 years old . He is nearing the end of his career . So in this time he needs a UCL trophy or Ballon D. Or  to reach himself to the list of legends .
Messi is a legend with his current achievement, 6 Ballon Dor are enough to call Messi is a legend. Ronaldo is jealous with Messi and he does not need more personal or team trophies just to be called as a legend. It is his ambitious goal to play with joy and get more trophies.
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we already heard that Barca board wants to release Suarez too . Then tell me that , how will Messi lead this team forward alone?   The Barcelona board should now reorganize the whole team.
With the talent he has, Messi can play as a playmaker for Barcelona in the midfield. He already did it in many matches in last few seasons, after Xavi then Iniesta left Barca. The sacrifice of Messi reflects on his stats: less goals but more key passes and assists.

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September 05, 2020, 01:47:01 PM
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Was it worth keeping the unmotivated Messi in the team? Moreover, Koeman will build a new one. Conflicts cannot be avoided. And this will have a deplorable effect on the game of Barcelona. Barcelona will have a difficult season.
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September 05, 2020, 01:52:17 PM
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Now I have mixed feelings about Messi. as fan of Barca, yes, Im happy that he will stay in Barcelona for one more year. But he wanted to leave already, but he was forced to stay - Messi simply had no choice - stay or go to court against his club. For me it's incredible that Bartomeu & co is still in charge. I think it will be diffcult year for Messi when his relationships with current board is so complicated.

I think he was really forced to stay with Barca, with threat of a court case. I really want to see Messi still in good shape when he play, and that includes his resolve to play without being affected with his issues with the management. How he can be able to play at his good form if he is not in good shape with the management? Anyway, all I hope is the best for him before he retires. No stress and anxiety. Sometimes, even money cannot give you happiness.

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September 05, 2020, 02:00:19 PM
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Now I have mixed feelings about Messi. as fan of Barca, yes, Im happy that he will stay in Barcelona for one more year. But he wanted to leave already, but he was forced to stay - Messi simply had no choice - stay or go to court against his club. For me it's incredible that Bartomeu & co is still in charge. I think it will be diffcult year for Messi when his relationships with current board is so complicated.

I think he was really forced to stay with Barca, with threat of a court case. I really want to see Messi still in good shape when he play, and that includes his resolve to play without being affected with his issues with the management. How he can be able to play at his good form if he is not in good shape with the management? Anyway, all I hope is the best for him before he retires. No stress and anxiety. Sometimes, even money cannot give you happiness.

In fact, this way Messi will play under even more pressure and stress   Grin
He will be dissatisfied and disappointed and will just wait to leave the club and that is the worst thing that could have happened in this situation.
Needless to say, Messi will leave the club for free next year  Grin
A very stupid decision by the club.

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^ ^  Messi could take Barca to court for sure but the court battle could take years and he's gonna be a free agent next year.  So go figure.  It's better to just stay one more year, get his money then leave.

And really, how can he take his boyhood club to court...  It's not a good look.

Anyway, anybody fancy a Real, Sevilla or Real, Atletico top two this season?  Cheesy

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September 05, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
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In fact, this way Messi will play under even more pressure and stress   Grin
He will be dissatisfied and disappointed and will just wait to leave the club and that is the worst thing that could have happened in this situation.
Needless to say, Messi will leave the club for free next year  Grin
A very stupid decision by the club.
The amazing goal Messi scored against Napoli is the best evidence that shows how he loves the club and how he usually tries his best on field. Napoli defenders thought Messi stopped and waited for a freekick but he kept going and scoring that goal. If you watch the video again, you can see how dissapointed Manolas shown on his face after the conceded goal. In that goal, Manolas is the one who realized Messi want to score but he reacted too late and Messi has perfect shot.

I believed in what Messi said. He does love the club and he wanted to have a happy ending before the defeat. Yes, he does not feel happy in Barcelona in some seasons, not only in the last one.

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September 05, 2020, 03:28:26 PM
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I read some unpleasant stories about Barcelona lately.

Messi stayed but will it be the same like before?
I don't see anything bad whatever had happened. Barcelona had contract with Messi and Messi is following the contract. Why would it not be like previous? Well, before Covid-19, I guess everything was fine. I can't remember Messi having any plan leaving Barca.

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September 05, 2020, 05:08:22 PM
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I don't see anything bad whatever had happened. Barcelona had contract with Messi and Messi is following the contract. Why would it not be like previous? Well, before Covid-19, I guess everything was fine. I can't remember Messi having any plan leaving Barca.
I only remember that Messi still wanted to play for his old club at the end of his career. But I doubt that wish will come true.

As a player of one of the biggest club in Spain and also hold the status of a mega star at the club, Messi must respect his contract and must play professionally. I dont think anything will change about him despite the change in the squad.

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September 06, 2020, 08:41:29 AM
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Now I have mixed feelings about Messi. as fan of Barca, yes, Im happy that he will stay in Barcelona for one more year. But he wanted to leave already, but he was forced to stay - Messi simply had no choice - stay or go to court against his club. For me it's incredible that Bartomeu & co is still in charge. I think it will be diffcult year for Messi when his relationships with current board is so complicated.

I think he was really forced to stay with Barca, with threat of a court case. I really want to see Messi still in good shape when he play, and that includes his resolve to play without being affected with his issues with the management. How he can be able to play at his good form if he is not in good shape with the management? Anyway, all I hope is the best for him before he retires. No stress and anxiety. Sometimes, even money cannot give you happiness.

Said so much about this guy and I think I have come to a point where I no longer expect or ask the poor man to do anything other than what he wants to, and what he can. Sometimes none of these things can overlap not for us normal people and not even for a man whose shoulders have held up an entire nation and club.

Let us just hope for his happiness! Everything else we forget.

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September 06, 2020, 09:25:43 AM
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I read some unpleasant stories about Barcelona lately.

Messi stayed but will it be the same like before?
I don't see anything bad whatever had happened. Barcelona had contract with Messi and Messi is following the contract. Why would it not be like previous? Well, before Covid-19, I guess everything was fine. I can't remember Messi having any plan leaving Barca.

Messi doesn't like the current management. He wanted to leave and the pres of Barca showed his contract down his throat. It is nothing wrong in a legal perspective.

And as a professional player, Messi should do his best whether he likes the team or not anymore.

But... Will he?

Life isn't always as perfect as we all want.

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September 06, 2020, 11:04:37 AM
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^ ^  Messi could take Barca to court for sure but the court battle could take years and he's gonna be a free agent next year.  So go figure.  It's better to just stay one more year, get his money then leave.

And really, how can he take his boyhood club to court...  It's not a good look.

Anyway, anybody fancy a Real, Sevilla or Real, Atletico top two this season?  Cheesy
Yeah fuck the system.

Poor messi , he is so plain and Barcelona as a club who has a lot of merit given by him choose to dump messi , they are indeed in need money after the pandemic hit their financial condition, still he deserve more than just get dumped.
I'm not sure things in/outside the field will get back to normal for him , he is indeed have to be professional but Im sure there will be a bold difference for messi to play for one more season at Barcelona. Barcelona could easily grant messi request but the club refused to do that.
He might will play with unhappy heart during the 20/21 laliga campaign.

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September 06, 2020, 12:53:01 PM
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Now I have mixed feelings about Messi. as fan of Barca, yes, Im happy that he will stay in Barcelona for one more year. But he wanted to leave already, but he was forced to stay - Messi simply had no choice - stay or go to court against his club. For me it's incredible that Bartomeu & co is still in charge. I think it will be diffcult year for Messi when his relationships with current board is so complicated.

I think he was really forced to stay with Barca, with threat of a court case. I really want to see Messi still in good shape when he play, and that includes his resolve to play without being affected with his issues with the management. How he can be able to play at his good form if he is not in good shape with the management? Anyway, all I hope is the best for him before he retires. No stress and anxiety. Sometimes, even money cannot give you happiness.

In fact, this way Messi will play under even more pressure and stress   Grin
He will be dissatisfied and disappointed and will just wait to leave the club and that is the worst thing that could have happened in this situation.
Needless to say, Messi will leave the club for free next year  Grin
A very stupid decision by the club.

Exactly, I think he will not be determined nor enthusiastic enough to play a good game. Maybe we can expect him to pass the ball to other players and have these other players do the scoring. He may even care less if the team scores or not, he might just want every game to end and let the days pass. Until he is able to leave the team without any consequences. I would imaging a Messi playing for another team and hoping the same team as Ronaldo.

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September 06, 2020, 02:13:58 PM
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Messi is a legend with his current achievement, 6 Ballon Dor are enough to call Messi is a legend. Ronaldo is jealous with Messi and he does not need more personal or team trophies just to be called as a legend. It is his ambitious goal to play with joy and get more trophies.
Am sorry but how does Ronaldo come up in this whole Messi argument and saga?

Ronaldo is Ronaldo, Messi is Messi. Let's not be like the crazy Messi-CR7 fanboys.



He might will play with unhappy heart during the 20/21 laliga campaign.
He's a professional who's paid a ton of money to play so i don't think the way he plays will change much

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September 06, 2020, 06:42:03 PM
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Messi wants to bring the Barcelona president to his dismissal, but he is much smarter at intrigue. So Messi is in a losing situation. He needed to insist on leaving. Next year will be worse for him. The problems with the president will add problems with the coach and possibly with the players.
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September 06, 2020, 07:00:08 PM
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Messi wants to bring the Barcelona president to his dismissal, but he is much smarter at intrigue. So Messi is in a losing situation. He needed to insist on leaving. Next year will be worse for him. The problems with the president will add problems with the coach and possibly with the players.

Why do you think Messi is in a losing situation? Only because he has to stay another season at Barca? It is Barca that looks unsympathetic after all this drama. After all these years and all that Messi has done for this club, did they really have to force him to stay, no matter what?
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