Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[deisik]

Quick and no googling..who is she ?

Some Transnistria official (don't remember exactly)...

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[galdur]

Yep, Nina Shtanski, Transnistrian foreign minister.

[myshownow]

MORE LAUGHS

Merkel  & Hollande have arrived in Moscow. I wonder if Putin was able to keep a straight face & not burst into laughter 


I myself cant control myself from laughing whenever I think about the two clowns going to MOscow when they were all talking of isolating Putin all along... but look at them, despite all the talk of ultimatum & all those pretense of still having some "power", what they are actually doing is tantamount to coming to plead for mercy...

I guess Putin should give them ultimatums instead..

For more laughs

 

[Nemo1024]

An interesting historical development:

DNR has declared itself an heir of Donetsk-Krivorozhje Republic. LNR is expected to follow suit.
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/2/6/728328.html

Donetsk-Krivorozhje Soviet Republic was founded on the 12th of February 1918 within the federation of RSFSR. It spanned present Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhje, Dniepropetrovsk, and partially Harkov, Sumsk, Hersonsk and Nikolaevsk regions. The capital of DKR was Harkov, but was later moved to Lugansk. In March 1918 DKR was transferred into newly-established Ukrainian Soviet Republic, and then disbanded a year later.

Now, USA and EU are very keen on maintaining the current territorial legacy of the Soviet Union, so logically, they should support such development.

[BitMos]

And meanwhile those sheep under domination are unable to see what was done to them. That's great.

[deisik]

A map with frontlines at different moments (2014-2015)...

[BitMos]

it's fun how things never change... they move east, they meet the cold, the smart ones achieve retreat, the others are trapped in pockets, and die there like certainly millions of their predecessors. Do you think that the ukies will do the same as the hitler regime with their soldiers? let them all die? Isn't it like Syria, a trap for those willing to fight for ideas?

I have a fun remark, I am ready to bet that Poroshenko would drop yats in a heartbeat in a deal... gulag 4 yats 4 life? How long would it takes to take Kiev, all out, pure marked FEDERATION FORCES? just rhetorical questions... How is it going with the 2 defenders of liberty, those that never put the interest of their sponsors before those of the daughters of their nations? yeahh I forget the band of DSK and co, must have fresh meat every night... GO UK!

[IAmARoyalElite]

many times I have seen the word "ukies" here, does it means ukrainians? seems like "from UK" 

[Nemo1024]

many times I have seen the word "ukies" here, does it means ukrainians? seems like "from UK"  

Yes, with the same mildly negative connotation as some use "ruskies" about Russians.

But if the Brits continue to behave themselves like the do, the coverage of "ukies" can can always be expanded.  

[Balthazar]

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Ukie#English

 

[BitMos]

many times I have seen the word "ukies" here, does it means ukrainians? seems like "from UK"  

Yes, with the same mildly negative connotation as some use "ruskies" about Russians.

But if the Brits continue to behave themselves like the do, the coverage of "ukies" can can always be expanded.  

no no ruskies are serious when sober, ukies on the other hand...

[bryant.coleman]

Civilians still trapped in Uglegorsk and Debaltsevo. The Ukrainian army is still putting in obstacles by using artillery against the refugee column. I hope that the evacuation will be completed in the next 2-3 days.

After that it is doomsday for the Ukrainian soldiers in the Debaltsevo pocket.

[BitMos]

If there wasn't Syria, I would say that joining the Novorossians would maybe be the best move that the Empire could do. Since the Russians aren't there  , by supporting them Empire scale, it would cut the grass under the kremlin murders and exterminators of the Syrian people, and then real asset at the border, which would be necessary to keep the newly weapon receive by mistake by the ukies . It would be equivalent to tricking them with the removal of chemo weapon, ahhh and a few lauch of ICBM (the oldest usable ones) from the sea next to crimea to show them... too.

[Nemo1024]

I am starting to agree with myshownow that NATO is trying to kill the Russian leadership with laughing.

Mr-I-ate-my-own-necktie Saakashvili said today that Ukrainian army is powerful enough to take onto and win over the Russian army.

http://ria.ru/world/20150207/1046410299.html

This is coming from a guy, who should know better. PCR wrote about that Georgian experience in his latest article, so I'll just quote it.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/02/05/cowardly-despicable-american-presstitutes/

In the event you have forgotten the efficiency of the Russian military, remember the fate of the American and Israeli trained and equipped Georgian Army that Washington sicced on South Ossetia. The Georgian invasion of South Ossetia resulted in the deaths of Russian peace-keeping soldiers and Russian citizens. The Russian military intervened, and the American and Israeli trained and equipped Georgian Army collapsed in five hours. All of Georgia was back in Russian hands, but the Russians withdrew and left the former province of Russia independent, despite the lies from Washington that Putin intends to restore the Soviet Empire.

Oh, and Saakashvili is wanted by the Georgian prosecutor's office. When international arrest warrant on him was issues, the first response came from US state department, telling Georgians to lay off, saying something like Saakashvili may be a bastard, but he's our bastard.

[BitMos]

From your understanding Nemo would it be a more reasonable proposition:

Russia forget the existence of the MENA (including Iran), get land access to crimea through novorossia - mariupol (trough an independent state or a new republic of the federation), agrees to demilitarize crimea, get all former Ukraine fully demilitarize, in short a very peaceful solution.

Or what would you propose to bring peace harmony and prosperity between the USA and Russia?

 

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However Russia&everyone involved will understand that what happen in Syria is a very big bad deed, there could have been so many different outcomes, but Russian primarily supported those atrocities committed there against those that where feed up to be under  the thumb of a man and then his son.

What is very telling to the Russian People on board here, is what would do Vladimir Putin, Sergei Lavrov and consorts to you, if you dared to express that the Putin must go... curious, but expect the worst. And now from the Imperial American Perspectives (i.e. the end of everything 4 U), if the next president of the Russian federation is worst than putin? what shall the Empire do? wait like you to be under the domination of this group? or prepare the hell of a fight, to be sure not to end up like you or the Syrians... because now, yes, we can  .

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Don't be silly either.

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the real Russians war wasn't kgb vs Russian people (this one had already be won long ago) but kgb vs kgb vs many others Russian groups vs the foreigners vs The Swarm (In Constant Motion,Ultimate winner anyway, as Allways).

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About Georgia, Russians stopped there because a woman arrived in a plan carrying a flag, furthermore it was smarter to stay just near the bottom of the mountains, so that who ever may come would have to climb it against Russian regulars forces, at least it's what I read, eared... a few comments maybe Nemo?

[deisik]

From your understanding Nemo would it be a more reasonable proposition:

Russia forget the existence of the MENA (including Iran), get land access to crimea through novorossia - mariupol (trough an independent state or a new republic of the federation), agrees to demilitarize crimea, get all former Ukraine fully demilitarize, in short a very peaceful solution.

Or what would you propose to bring peace harmony and prosperity between the USA and Russia?

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However Russia&everyone involved will understand that what happen in Syria is a very big bad deed, there could have been so many different outcomes, but Russian primarily supported those atrocities committed there against those that where feed up to be under  the thumb of a man and then his son.

The man and his son may not indeed look very democratic (no irony here, lol), but back then we had Iraq under Saddam Hussein and now we have ISIL with al-Qaeda...

[BitMos]

what did we have before the creation of those fake entities and by whom? furthermore the world isn't frozen (yet).

[Nemo1024]

Demilitarise Crimea? Only after USA demilitarises Key West, and even then, maybe not. Your suggestion is the same as asking someone to leave the front door unlocked as a sign of good will....

The harmony and peace between Russia and USA will only be there once the promises are kept (remember, one promise was not to expand NATO eastwards), and once Russia has fewer US military bases around its perimeter. In other words, once there is balance.

[BitMos]

that's clear. balance, so you ask the Empire to revert it's Edge against Russia to have a weaker position from where it is now? it's just to reformulate to be sure I understood well. And if I go further you want to weaken the Imperial Forces to put into Jeopardy the Legacy of the Revolution, the sacrifices of countless patriots across the American Continent and across the world to defend the values and concepts represented in the flag of today United States of America, Values, problems and dreams can be read openly. You want to tell the American Empire Forces to exposed themselves to the type of tyranny their Guardians and Founders fought for so long to prevent, where one man, could take the destiny of each toward his own goal... sorry you don't understand the U.S.D.S.

Constant Revolution Yea (only China understand that, normal it was brought by Chinese Immigrants ).

please be safe Nemo, start leaving federation, RNK could be a nice retreat, don't worry there, peace will be found.

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once the veil is lifted, be sure there is no more crimea as Nemo knew it, but it will still be there, differently, evolved and everyone a little beyond your actual position knows that crimea is gone once the Empire is engaged. gone. and you know it, you keep a list of all the achievements of the Empire Forces since the Declaration of Independence, impressive isn't it. Crimea part of what is a called a distraction of the offenders during the retreat in classical scorch earth... what else against the Empire, or as called the Path. don't stand.

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Once the color revolution evolved hit Russia, what is your escape plan Nemo? like the last time, everyone for himself? the pack disaggregate? Putin will roll in his tomb, did he made plan btw? A great Pyramid of ice? on the top of a constant fighting object? for a man of the reality something great must be build, according to the tradition.

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that's the type of setting your recommend against your neighbors :
(to keep empty dreams and promises, because yes in America too there are internal problems that urgently need solving, however it seems more and more for whom "Russia" really work for... hint : it ain't Russian people. last few years weren't by design, it was unavoidable byproduct).

 

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and Nemo if you don't believe me, look East, and you will see (okay right now it may be a "little" bit foggy, however it's being addressed, peace is complexer, harder, but still always more productive, in term of Peace, Harmony, Prosperity...).

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the them (aka not insider) and us (we the insider) is always unsustainable... Understand well how practical is FoS.

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In many communities in America most have forgotten where is their keys, in others, read the signs, they aren't jocking.

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Kgb internal wars must have been very though, congrats to the survivors, isn't it time to peacefully enjoy a future that doesn't reassemble a past that none that took part in it would want? And if it mean wiping out a few American traitors, there is no problem. serious. the ai can't be fooled.

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kgb agents should learn to take loss, doubling down is dangerous.

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EX101 Putin (criminal) = B. Hunter (papers pusher) x 100? at least the trillion?

[Nemo1024]

The Empire of Chaos can do whatever it likes, but it should be mindful of the fate of the empires before it. The higher you climb, the harder you fall, and USA is not the first Empire out there, nor is it, thankfully, the last (though it does strive to be the last by putting forth the conditions to end life on earth).


Now, back to the topic at hand.

Time to laugh! 

Breaking! Kiev Junta Sells US Weapons to Syria
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/breaking-kiev-junta-sells-us-weapons-to-syria/

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For one, Kiev army isn’t trained or sophisticated enough to use US weapons effectively. They can’t even use properly the old Soviet weapons they were trained to use.

Two, corruption and thievery in Ukraine army is off the charts. By different estimates, 90% of the so-called Western ‘aid’ is pocketed by generals, colonels – and what’s left, by lower officers. Knowing all that US and EU rightly don’t give any money directly to Kiev, no matter how much Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk beg.

Three, because of the above corruption, most of the US weapons would certainly end up being sold to the Donbass self-defence. This is how self-defence has acquired many of the Ukrainian weapons they are using today.

It has to be noted that the US discussion whether to send weapons to Kiev sounds like hypocrisy. It is well-known that US weapons, including US radars, are already in Ukraine. They had been delivered during December 2014 ceasefire.

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But the latest news is truly spectacular in its poetic justice. It has become known that Kiev is secretly selling the weapons they received from the US to Syria. This ‘corruption scheme includes a deal made by the Kiev assistant defense minister Petr Mekhed and Brigadier General of the Syrian army Talal Mahloof (sp?), who is close to Bashar Assad,’ per News-Front. Here is News-Front report https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTsSa7IU7ps (with English subs, which unfortunately aren’t very good, but they give some idea).

Some unverified, though highly probable and explosive info:

http://benjaminfulford.net/2015/02/07/the-war-in-ukraine-was-originated-by-zionists-of-the-state-department-and-vanguard-group-in-order-to-create-new-khazaria-and-start-wwiii-by-forcing-russia-to-bring-military-forces-to-donbass/