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January 23, 2015, 04:42:38 PM
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Thanks for the info, I didn't know they had multilingual versions.

Here is another video.


[eng subs] Igor Strelkov commentary on strategic situation in Novorossia 23/01/15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zx41Du6nY&x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&feature=player_embedded
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Donetsk Republican Army HQ reports about the highest one-time losses through the war. Over the last 24 hours the resistance lost 24 warriors and 30 more were wounded. Ukrainian side lost 50 soldiers, 3 tanks, 2 artillery units, 4 BMPs and BTRs:
http://ria.ru/world/20150123/1043900656.html

According to Zaharchenko, the resistance is leading an offensive in 5 directions, and Kiev cannot keep up:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1887694.html



According to UN 262 people were killed over the last 9 days.



Zaharchenko said that according to his intelligence reports, the Ukro-Nazis are pulling 3 mobile cremation units to the zone of conflict - presumably to remove bodies of the killed Ukrainian conscripts and then to report them as MiA or as captured by DNR.

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“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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January 24, 2015, 01:56:52 AM
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Someone needs to create a live map that adjusts the territory by recent news articles.

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January 24, 2015, 02:07:30 AM
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It seems that another attempt to perform blitzkrieg isn't going to be succesful.. What a bunch of losers. Smiley
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January 24, 2015, 02:11:06 AM
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It seems that another attempt to perform blitzkrieg isn't going to be succesful.. What a losers. Smiley

Blitzkrieg doesn't work when you have untrained conscripts.

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Headlines:

Ukraine suffers considerable losses — DPR Defense Ministry
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773095

OSCE monitors report no movement of military hardware at Russia-DPR border crossing point
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773085

UN requests full list of humanitarian items delivered to Donbass so far
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773127

88 Russian journalists expelled from Ukraine - adviser to Ukraine’s Security Council chief
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773110
(Yep, definitely freedom of speech)

More than 1.5 mln abandon homes due to conflict in east of Ukraine - UN
http://itar-tass.com/en/world/773125

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UNITED NATIONS, January 24. /TASS/. More than 1.5 million civilians have had to abandon their homes due to the conflict in the east of Ukraine, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said on Friday.

According to the OCHA, Ukraine as at January 21 had 921,000 internally displaced persons. Another 600,000 have taken refuge in the territories of neighbouring countries, mostly Russia.



False Flag Alert; Kiev Regime Needs War to Survive; Ukrainians Refuse to Fight; Foreign Mercenaries and NATO Weapons
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/false-flag-alert-kiev-regime-needs-war-to-survive-ukrainians-refuse-to-fight-kiev-uses-foreign-mercenaries-and-us-weapons/

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In January 2015 Poroshenko announced a surprise mass mobilization of up to 200,000 people, including 60-year-olds, women and children. This occurred immediately after he went to the Unity Parch in Paris and after the Volnovakha bus shelling by his army. Read: Urgent! Secret Link Between French False Flag Attacks and Ukraine and Ukraine’s Snowden: Whistleblower confirms MH17 was shot down by Ukraine.

Immediately several things happened, according to witnesses.

1. Huge lines consisting of healthy men trying to avoid mobilization formed in front of medical offices and hospitals.

2. Ukrainians were hiding from draft throughout 2014, as I wrote before. But now, draft-dodging is becoming an epidemic. People hide in cellars, change names, leave families behind and move to other cities and countries, as far from their home as possible.

3. Immigration to Russia has reached staggering proportions. What Russians are noticing with alarm is that, as opposed to 2014, when refugees from the Kiev junta atrocities flooded Russia, presently, the so-called maidanutie (those who are anti-Russian, pro-Kiev-maidan) are also flooding in to avoid mobilization. They are anti-Russian, yet, they run to Russia to avoid being drafted to the anti-Donbass ATO.

4. Kiev regime’s plan was to mobilize 50,000, and later, another 150,000 in stages. So far, they are only able to fulfil their quota by about 25-27% due to draft avoidance. Experts estimate that soon draft fulfillment will be down to 10% of the quota.

5. This morbid mobilization has been dubbed ‘mogilization’ from Rus/Ukr/Slav ‘mogila’ – grave. It has become known that Ukraine army acquired 80 hectares of land to bury its ATO soldiers. This information was freely posted and advertised on army site and all over Ukraine media. 80 hectares is enough to bury 160,000 people. The entire mobilization is supposed to be 200,000.

6. Despite such lofty mobilization numbers, even a fraction proved to be unreachable. Ukrainians write in social networks that they would rather go to jail than get drafted – it’s a 3-year sentence for refusing ‘mogilization.’ Advisors and experts in Ukraine are openly advising people to run away, hide, or, worst case scenario, go to jail.

7. According to the military experts I’ve been listening to, the sloppy, unprofessional, not to say, stupid actions of the Ukraine army attest to the fact that real commanders and army professionals don’t want to achieve victory in Donbass. Career officers don’t want to fight, as their heart isn’t in it. What can we talk about if the minister of defence in Kiev is a policeman. They couldn’t find a single military officer for this post.

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January 25, 2015, 09:11:25 AM
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1.5 Millions people left ... so who are there to fight ? LoL haa yes simple worker ... who can drive Multi grad rocket ... it is quite simple to use ... take the manual on google and let's fight ?

About Mariopol ... this city was living free... during election most of people voted for porochenko ... and what Kiev wanted fight ? Either citizen was in peace .... there ... who put the trouble ??

The stupid separatist... now again we see who want to war ... you can not deny ... either like Tas/Ria... when they want to publish they do it quick ... when it is trouble for russian friend ... let's take more 10 hours to publish the information....

First they claim the attack now as they saw they killed citizen... again they try the game => this is not out fault LoL ... and OSCE confirmed it too ...

Russia need Mariopol ... so they will figth to get it now ... Russia is well printing the history for East Europe => never beleive russia ... they do not respect any document signed !
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January 25, 2015, 10:08:31 AM
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Remember the bus that exploded on a Ukrainian mine and how Poroshenko brought it all the way to Davos, trying to ride the tragedy?
Well, an Ukro-Nazi artillery shell hit a trolley-bus in Donetsk, killing lots of people, but the West and Kiev is silent...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWKyuVc24QY

Artillery shelling of Donetsk continues:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/25/726040.html

The Republican Army managed to break through to Mariupol.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/01/24/mariupol1/
Kiev-Nazis started shelling Mariupol and were blaming it on the resistance. Even (and especially) NATO chief was quick to blame the DNR army for a coming humanitarian problems in Mariupol (while still turning a blind eye on what is going on in Donetsk and Lugansk). So DNR Army had to move quick to suppress the Urko-artillery.

The people of Mariupol remember well the massacre that Ukro-Nazis organised on the 9th of May (of all dates!) of 2014.

By the way, read the article from Lada Ray, that I linked to above, in full. A lot of connections become clear.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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Remember the bus that exploded on a Ukrainian mine and how Poroshenko brought it all the way to Davos, trying to ride the tragedy?
Well, an Ukro-Nazi artillery shell hit a trolley-bus in Donetsk, killing lots of people, but the West and Kiev is silent...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWKyuVc24QY

Artillery shelling of Donetsk continues:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/25/726040.html

The Republican Army managed to break through to Mariupol.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/01/24/mariupol1/
Kiev-Nazis started shelling Mariupol and were blaming it on the resistance. Even (and especially) NATO chief was quick to blame the DNR army for a coming humanitarian problems in Mariupol (while still turning a blind eye on what is going on in Donetsk and Lugansk). So DNR Army had to move quick to suppress the Urko-artillery.

The people of Mariupol remember well the massacre that Ukro-Nazis organised on the 9th of May (of all dates!) of 2014.

By the way, read the article from Lada Ray, that I linked to above, in full. A lot of connections become clear.


So are you telling OSCE lie ? When it push on Poutine way ... you claim it ...but

Funny ... only the brave is DPR ... LoL armed with russian weapons ... Hey but let me recall you ... since the start Pro Russian explain that they have no GRAD / No rocket during the shut down of Air Asia ... how they can use them now ??

Yes i forget miner/worker/ basic Citizen took it from Ukrainia army and read the manual and now they use it on peacefull Citizen !

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The SMM conducted a crater analysis and its initial assessment showed that the impacts were caused by Grad and Uragan rockets. According to the impact analysis, the Grad rockets originated from a north-easterly direction, in the area of Oktyabr (19 km north-east of Olimpiiska Street), and the Uragan rockets from an easterly direction, in the area of Zaichenko (15 km east of Olimpiiska Street), both controlled by the “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DPR”).

And tell us why before DPR attack Mariupol was living in peace ... Huh?

Explain us why Mariupol voted massively for Porochenko ... and as you tell Pro-Nazis of Kiev ... was there ... why russian people was able to live in peace in this area ...

DPR want WAR just to get LAND with help of Russia ... all knows this ... and russia is writting the history about all the lie and fact !

Be prepared for some years of back to communisme now ... because Russia will get only 1 way now ... more weapons , more repression ... and who will pay the weapons ... ? I let you guess !

Hope petrol will stay near 50 US$ ... this winter weather has not been good too for Russia Gaz market ... no big sell ;-)



More bigger is the lie ... more easy to propagate it ...
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By the way, read the article from Lada Ray, that I linked to above, in full. A lot of connections become clear.


Lady Ray affabulation, how can you take this site serious ... i know they were "little green men" but please ... serious ...

Soon she will explain that all in Ukrainia is a mysterious attack of unlegend alien !

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/predictions/

Again a pro russian propaganda... look the link posted on this blog ... either from Voltaire network ( so called free press .. )

Do i need to recall you who paid for this network LoL ?? The general Manaf Tlass .... of El-Assad governement ... for his " battle of World's information" ...


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Really your post is pathetic ... i do not see what the death of civil is good for any party ?

You like to post stormshit from Quenel+ ?? Hoo yes quenelle+ like to joke for israelian people... but not on muslims one ... this website is the worst .... too bad that dieudonne is linked to this shit ... because it has nothing inside to make the "fun" ...

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Stunning Turnaround! Donetsk Announces Mariupol and Debaltsevo Offensives, Refuses Poroshenko’s Fake Truce
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/stunning-turnaround-donetsk-announces-the-beginning-of-mariupol-offensive-refuses-poroshenkos-fake-truce/

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The Head of DNR (Donetsk People’s Republic) Alexander Zakharchenko has officially announced that the DNR army started a major offensive on the important port and key city of Mariupol. Some other stunning announcements were made, signalling a major turnaround!

First, there was the terrorist act in Volnovakha, Donetsk region, as a result of which at least 15 people died and 20 were wounded. Then, on January 22, 2015, Ukraine’s subversive terrorist group blew up a trolleybus on a crowded Donetsk city stop, killing 8 and injuring scores of people.

How did a Ukrainian subversive group got into Donetsk? Based on Minsk accords, Ukraine and DNR regularly exchanged prisoners. There were many complaints of Ukraine swindling Donbass by kidnapping various homeless people and random private citizens in cities far away from DNR and LNR, and than exchanging them for ukro-nazis or Kiev military. Feeling sorry for the poor prisoners, the Donbass people accepted everyone, until in December they discovered that 7 out of 200+ prisoners being exchanged were actually ukro-nazi subversive terrorists, sent to infiltrate Donetsk. These seven were arrested. However, as it turned out later, the entire group numbered 16. The remnant of that group executed the Donetsk bus stop terror act.

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Stunning Turnaround! Donetsk Announces Mariupol and Debaltsevo Offensives, Refuses Poroshenko’s Fake Truce
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/stunning-turnaround-donetsk-announces-the-beginning-of-mariupol-offensive-refuses-poroshenkos-fake-truce/

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The Head of DNR (Donetsk People’s Republic) Alexander Zakharchenko has officially announced that the DNR army started a major offensive on the important port and key city of Mariupol. Some other stunning announcements were made, signalling a major turnaround!

First, there was the terrorist act in Volnovakha, Donetsk region, as a result of which at least 15 people died and 20 were wounded. Then, on January 22, 2015, Ukraine’s subversive terrorist group blew up a trolleybus on a crowded Donetsk city stop, killing 8 and injuring scores of people.

How did a Ukrainian subversive group got into Donetsk? Based on Minsk accords, Ukraine and DNR regularly exchanged prisoners. There were many complaints of Ukraine swindling Donbass by kidnapping various homeless people and random private citizens in cities far away from DNR and LNR, and than exchanging them for ukro-nazis or Kiev military. Feeling sorry for the poor prisoners, the Donbass people accepted everyone, until in December they discovered that 7 out of 200+ prisoners being exchanged were actually ukro-nazi subversive terrorists, sent to infiltrate Donetsk. These seven were arrested. However, as it turned out later, the entire group numbered 16. The remnant of that group executed the Donetsk bus stop terror act.

...

Today we saw the real face of Poutine & Lavrov again... liying to all the world ...

They claimed the shell bom on Mariupol is coming from Kiev ... LoL what a joke as either OSCE analysed all the shell and the true story about ...

Today Russia lost the way of belarus ...

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BELARUS HAS OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED a new version of the law "On martial law." The document is revised after the invasion of Russia in Ukraine, will take effect from 1 February 2015, reports LB.ua.

According to the document, the emergence of the country military unmarked ("little green men" in the Crimea) is now officially considered Belarus a type of attack that threatens the territorial integrity and sovereignty. In an open annexation Belarusian territory, rocket and bombing and air strikes on another country or use weapons against Belarus, the updated law is written as "send in another State of armed bands (groups) and regular forces or regular forces."

The law is very clear the events that are to be officially considered a military threat that is sufficient for the introduction of martial law in Belarus. For such threats include the concentration of the armed forces of another country near the border of Belarus if it clearly indicates aggressive intentions or in another state of mobilization to attack in Belarus.

With the introduction of martial law will not be able to dissolve one of the two chambers of the Belarusian parliament, even if the expiry of their powers, and also continue the current powers of the President. Citizens of the country at that time prohibited the collection and dissemination of any information relating to the Armed Forces and of territorial defense, participate in rallies, pickets and demonstrations, as well as the acquisition of hunting weapons and ammunition.

The law imposes a number of obligations on Belarus: All citizens who have reached the age of 16 may be involved in free work for defense, elimination of consequences of the use of weapons, restoration of damaged facilities and so on. Force the work will not only men over 60 and women over 55. Also, citizens are obliged to provide their existing residential and commercial premises for defense needs and accommodate immigrants (for it provides compensation).

Recall that in March 2014 the Russian military unmarked captured local authorities in the Crimea, which led to the annexation of the peninsula Russia. Since April 2014 and until now the Russian military personnel are in the Donbas, where are fighting against the Ukrainian military, but Russia does not officially recognize the presence of its army on Ukrainian territory in spite of all the evidence.
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January 25, 2015, 06:32:39 PM
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Stunning Turnaround! Donetsk Announces Mariupol and Debaltsevo Offensives, Refuses Poroshenko’s Fake Truce
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/stunning-turnaround-donetsk-announces-the-beginning-of-mariupol-offensive-refuses-poroshenkos-fake-truce/

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The Head of DNR (Donetsk People’s Republic) Alexander Zakharchenko has officially announced that the DNR army started a major offensive on the important port and key city of Mariupol. Some other stunning announcements were made, signalling a major turnaround!

First, there was the terrorist act in Volnovakha, Donetsk region, as a result of which at least 15 people died and 20 were wounded. Then, on January 22, 2015, Ukraine’s subversive terrorist group blew up a trolleybus on a crowded Donetsk city stop, killing 8 and injuring scores of people.

How did a Ukrainian subversive group got into Donetsk? Based on Minsk accords, Ukraine and DNR regularly exchanged prisoners. There were many complaints of Ukraine swindling Donbass by kidnapping various homeless people and random private citizens in cities far away from DNR and LNR, and than exchanging them for ukro-nazis or Kiev military. Feeling sorry for the poor prisoners, the Donbass people accepted everyone, until in December they discovered that 7 out of 200+ prisoners being exchanged were actually ukro-nazi subversive terrorists, sent to infiltrate Donetsk. These seven were arrested. However, as it turned out later, the entire group numbered 16. The remnant of that group executed the Donetsk bus stop terror act.

...

Today we saw the real face of Poutine & Lavrov again... liying to all the world ...

They claimed the shell bom on Mariupol is coming from Kiev ... LoL what a joke as either OSCE analysed or not all the shell and the true story about ...

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Well folks it's confirmed..

NAF have effectively closed the ring around the debaltsevo pocket, LPR and DPR armies joined forces to pull this off.

It is estimated that 7.5k Ukrop troops are trapped in the pocket.

Reports came in earlier of multiple groups of Ukrop troops surrendering and some apparently even switching sides to join the NAF.

8-10% of the entire ukraine army just got caught in another boiler. Ilovaisk 3.0 is about to happen.

I can't imagine why they didn't retreat before this happened... the Ukrops have the worst commanders ever..

While this is happening the Ukrops are still even sending soldiers at the airport to die.. I mean seriously.. for real? What are they doing? Their whole front line is getting wrecked and the Ukrop command still sends guys to their doom at the donetsk airport. The ineptitude in their command is unreal.
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I see that Souldream is getting his "1 hryvnia per post" payments in non-stop mode. Cheesy
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To comeback to my last post, what really makes me angry, is that I don't understand how any military basis outside of Russia, makes Russia stronger, safer, versatile"r" or resilience"r" Huh. I don't get it. Russia has the chance to be a "compact", common block... what's the interest of having tartoos, a spot in iran or what ever else that isn't inside the border of the federation ( I let on the side novorrossia and crimea, at least the signs are already in Russian). For me this obsession is dangerous.

1. It proves to the American Empire that you aren't peaceful. And that in itself is very important. How could idiots progressive support a peaceful solution? (I know most of the time they are indoctrinated adult, ie less smart than a kid...).

2. It brings body bags from outside of Russia without any goal... what's the point of dying next to tartoos? for what?

3. At the end it doesn't really disturb the Empire, it just proves that you are bad. All flow are clear, and in a First strike those spots are gone at the same time as the Kremlin, ie no added security...

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About Ukraine, is it true that the IMF under Laggard forced the Ukies to attack Novorrossia to get a loan? If it's the case Laggard before the ICC... she has technically forced people to get to war for a loan (whooa what a news Cheesy). The trouble in Novorrossia is very positive to keep the crimeans in Russia...

edit: the imf tried to destroy the usd with the sdr, institutionally speaking the girl must understand that she will be treated like a man, and that when "red army" forces enter... don't expect much (for a girl or a man from the adversarial camp), as such why not try to foment war to get usa vs Russia to inflict damage on each other and then scoop the plate uno-imf like and destroy both to impose sdr and global gov.... those nasty little globalists have still not be hunted ww, they were in hiding but are still planning a take over... imf as a spring board.

don't worry anti globalist, true darksiders of world market will help you, around 2-3 min before your defeat (short term) why? hahaha pickers Cheesy.

money is faster...
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I see that Souldream is getting his "1 hryvnia per post" payments in non-stop mode. Cheesy

This is the only post you can do ? Personnal attack ... ? Pathetic again ... nice done !

During this time civil people die ... to protect the $$ of rich linked Russian ... you think Poutine & his gang do the war for the "russian speaking" ... Huh

Haa yes Lavrov & Poutine claims ... this is for protecting Russia ... LoL

Hey ... where you living ? Why Eu or US would want to invade Russia ? To get what ... ?

Who are making incursion plane/sub in all north Europe actually ?
Who enforce everyday their so called best weapons of the world ?

All the last years all European country limited the weapons build / spread ... only one country , want to recall everyday his "supremacy" of army/weapons ...

You think you will build peace based on weapons ? Really ...

Do we need to recall you why the first time the URSSS falled down ... ? No money for citizen ... all for the party / army ... LOL ??

History learn to us to avoid to make the same mistake ... and actually Russia has built his own Vietnam in Ukraina !

Making all country upset around him ... is really a bad idea LoL
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History learn to us to avoid to make the same mistake ... and actually Russia has built his own Vietnam in Ukraina !
Making all country upset around him ... is really a bad idea LoL

To be honest East Ukraine looks more like an "internal use Vietnam" for the govt in Kiev... :/
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